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He has a paid service, https://oa1trading.com/

But he is literally on the mic the majority of the day literally trading in real time. There are also other pros involved that participate.

I don't think you would regret being part of it. The caveat is that you have to be able to listen to the conf call the majority of the day because it moves fast. There are swings posted for example, but the real action is in options.
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Thx.
Heineken-Ashi
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Great explanation. The risk in futures is the margin and how quick it can move against you. Everything has its own risk reward levels. That's why I preach to not trade something you haven't thoroughly studied and understand.

I think an educational post on Greeks might be needed here for options players, and I might do that today instead of explaining indicators.
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My opinion of OA service is this after doing it the first two months: it's definitely day trade focused so you HAVE to be able to pay attention and focus. He's insanely knowledgeable, no denying that. But some of the trades when I was following, the alerts just weren't great. Maybe that's improved.

I also felt it was more geared to larger accounts with some of the plays. I could follow and understand what he was doing but you needed $50k sometimes to do certain plays. I'm still in the 4 digit range so it's hard for someone like me when I'm traveling nonstop and don't have the time. Just my 2 cents.

I have learned a lot from him and still have some of his videos from back in the day saved. He definitely is a huge part of why I got interested in this. Wish he did post here more but understand why he doesn't.
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OA still posts here occasionally. As others noted, his service is excellent if you have the time for that to be your "job" for the day.
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Ok - Greeks

What are Greeks? Greeks are critical to understanding options. They are very complicated if you haven't been exposed, but a true study of them will yield a lifetime of knowledge. Once you get a feel, and see how they work in practice, you will ultimately use them as inherent knowledge moving forward. This is the highest level overview and you need to read it if you don't yet have a full understanding of what they are, how they are calculated, what they do to an option's price, and how they can affect your trades. Option Greeks: The 4 Factors to Measure Risk (investopedia.com). I'll try to simplify below, but please come back and read this too.

Now here's my ELI5 explanation. I'll start with an option chain showing a bunch of different measurements.



From left to right, non greeks first - the columns are Last (last contract price), net change ($ change in contract price), volume (today's contracts traded), open interest (total volume since that expiration came available). These are self explanatory.

Now the Greeks, left to right - Delta, Gamma, Theta, Vega, and Rho (and then followed by more classic columns ask spread, bid spread, implied volatility, bid, and ask.)

Assume you are bullish IWM in February. You think it has a good chance to get to $200. Let's focus on the $195 strike which is the closest to at the money right now. The contract value for a $195 IWM call with Feb 16 expiration is $3.18.

If IWM is at $195 or less upon expiration, this contract will be $0. If IWM is at $200, this strike will be $5.00. It's simply the price at expiration minus the strike. That's easy to calculate. But what happens before expiration and why does the contract price not match the current - strike? That's where the greeks come in.

Delta - This tells you how much $ the contract will rise with every $1 increase in the underlying. So we started with contract price $3.18 on the $195 strike with IWM at $194.41. Delta is $0.48, Assuming we're in a vacuum and nothing else changes, if IWM gets to $195.41, delta tells you the contract will gain $0.48 and be $3.66. Conversely, the contract will fall by that amount with a $1 move down in IWM.



And it's shown as a negative number on puts because it works opposite. For every $1.00 move up in IWM, the contract will fall by -$0.53. And if IWM moves down, the put will gain that amount.

But what about if IWM goes to $196.41, a $2 move in IWM? That's where Gamma comes in. Gamma is probably the most important to knowing the income potential of a play, as it measures how much the DELTA will increase with a $1 move in the underlying. A high gamma means your contract can rise/fall FAST with every $1 move. A low gamma means the contract value will increase/decrease at a relatively flat rate with every $1 move.

In this case, gamma is $0.05 for the call. This tells us that with a move of IWM to $195.41, the delta will increase from $0.48 to $0.53. While it doesn't necessarily mean that it will wait until $195.41 to then make the increase to $196.41 have a $0.53 gain, we can look at it in a vacuum that way for simplicity.



Just as with delta, gamma will reduce the contract by the same amount in a price move down. And puts will act opposite.

Ever heard of gamma squeeze? Think of it similar to a stock squeeze. A rapid increase in buying and selling that spirals on itself in one direction, usually from short covering or something similar.

What Is a Gamma Squeeze? - SmartAsset | SmartAsset

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When stock prices experience rapid shifts, the conditions may be ripe for a squeeze. In this scenario, investors may find themselves buying or selling shares of stock outside their normal trading pattern in order to minimize losses. A gamma squeeze is an extreme example of this, in which investor buying activity forces a stock's price up often quite sharply. That's what happened in early June 2021 as shares of AMC experienced dramatic, sudden gains.

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A gamma squeeze can happen when there's widespread buying activity of short-dated call options for a particular stock. This can effectively create an upward spiral in which call buying triggers higher stock prices, which results in more call buying and even higher stock prices.
So now, we have a basic understanding of how our contract can be expected to move within a $2 range. But what if that range occurs over multiple days, or even weeks? That's where Theta comes in. Theta tells you more or less how much value the contract will lose with every day that passes. In this case, with every day that passes, our $195 Feb IWM call will lose $0.15. Let's see it in action. Let's assume the first $1 move happened at the end of the next day, and the second $1 move happened the following day.



We can now see that the $2 IWM increase we saw, where we expected our contract to rise $1.01, actually only rose $0.71. This is what's called "theta decay" or "time decay". This is one of the most overlooked factors of holding options beyond one day, and it can be CRUSHING the closer to expiration you get. Imagine if this $2 range took a week (again, in a vacuum, the only things happening are delta, gamma, and theta at this point). You're talking about 15 cents a day for 10 days. That's $1.50. You have now decayed well beyond the increase you expected to see from delta and gamma. THIS IS WHY OPTIONS ARE RISKY. As they approach expiration, theta takes over more and more. If you are in the money, this effect can be lessened as your contract comes closer to the actual difference between the strike and the underlying. But if you are out of the money, this decay is pushing your contract value closer to $0 with every day that passes.

Now let's extrapolate these out for an IWM move to $200, a $5 increase in IWM, and let's assume it takes 12 days. Here's what happened to your contract. And remember, we are still in a vacuum and this values shown are remaining unchanged from where they are today (they will change every single second that goes forward).



Your delta and gamma shows your contract gained $3.63, but the time decay stole $1.80 from you. Still a very profitable trade. $100 shares of IWM would have gained you $559 on a spend of $19,441, a 2.88% profit. But because you played the $195 call, you only spent t$318 and made $183, a profit of 57.55%. WOW!

But as with everything, I have to caution you on what would have happened if you were wrong and it moved away from you $5 in the other direction over $12 days. Buying IWM, you would have lost $500 or 2.57%. But your option would be here (again, in this vacuum).



Wipeout. In fact, just a $2 move down taking 4 days would have lost you over 50% of your value, and a $3 move down over 6 days would have destroyed 2/3 of your value. Just getting back to even at that point would be a miracle. And what kills even worse? Range bound. Imagine if a week passed and IWM was still at $194.41..



You would have lost 2/3 of your contract, with just a week left to expiration, thanks to time decay.

Now, there are other factors that have DIRECT impact of the options prices. These are harder to track so I won't diagram. But they are Vega and Rho.

Vega tells you how much your contract value will increase with each 1% gain in implied volatility (you can see the IV on the original options chart above.).

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Volatility measures the amount and speed at which price moves up and down and can be based on recent changes in price, historical price changes, and expected price moves in a trading instrument. Future-dated options have positive Vega, while options that are expiring immediately have negative Vega. The reason for these values is fairly obvious. Option holders tend to assign greater premiums for options expiring in the future than to those that expire immediately.

Vega changes when there are large price movements (increased volatility) in the underlying asset and falls as the option approaches expiration.
What Is Vega? Definition in Options, Basics, and Example (investopedia.com)

And this chart tells us the contract would gain $0.15 with every 1% increase in volatility. a 5% decrease in volatility would decrease your contract $0.75. That can be just as punishing as theta, and they will be decaying you at the same time. Or maybe volatility increases and makes up for theta decay. It's very very complicated and if you don't understand the basics of volatility, I suggest you do some reading. It's too much to explain here. But know your vega. A high vega can be extremely rewarding and equally as punishing.

Rho is usually considered the least, as it measures the change in the option to a change in interest rates. A lot of leaps were caught off guard in 2022 as Rho started to affect options in a way that hadn't been seen in a long, long time.
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if an option or options portfolio has a rho of 1.0, then for every 1 percentage-point increase in interest rates, the value of the option (or portfolio) increases 1 percent. Options that are most sensitive to changes in interest rates are those that are at-the-money and with the longest time to expiration.
What Is Rho? Definition, How It's Used, Calculation, and Example (investopedia.com)

For options expiring short term, it won't have much of an impact. Or maybe it will if we get a surprise in rates.

As 30k mentioned, there are also derivative second order greeks. These are greeks that affect other greeks. For example, Vanna measures how much the delta will change as volatility changes. So not only is volatility directly affecting your option through Vega, but it's affecting the delta in the background through Vanna. Vomma measures the rate of change of Vega with changes in volatility. Charm measures the theta (time) decay of the delta. Veta measures the time decay of Vega. Veta measures the change in Rho based on time decay. I wouldn't worry too much about these. Focus on delta, gamma, theta, and vega. Keep your eye on Rho for longer dated options.

This is a LOT to take in. But please learn and understand the basics. And know what you are getting into before your press the order button.

Two weeks ago I bought FTV $80 calls execting a 1-2 month price move from $75 to $85. There was low volume on the strike I chose. Delta wasn't high. Gamma wasn't high. Volatility was low. Why did I do that? What made me choose to do calls instead of buying the stock?

Had I bought the stock, I would have paid $7,500 hoping for a $1,000 gain. But since I believed in the move that was going to happen, the chart was building for a breakout, and I had been watching it for some time and preparing for this potential move with earnings approaching, I was able to get the $80 call for $0.50 each. Each contract was $50. A move to $85 based on simply subtracting the $80 strike would be a $5 contract, or 10x gain of my cost. And two contracts would cost $100 and equal the same return as buying 100 shares of the stock outright. Of course, my risk intensified, but I only risked $50 per contract, so my loss was limited much more than placing a stop on the shares would have been. Simply put, this option strategy uses the calls to mimic the move of the underlying stock for the potential to magnify the reward at a limited cost. The Greeks almost don't matter here. Now, had I been the only volume on that strike or even 25% of the total volume, I wouldn't have done it. Because there is a liquidity concern. If nobody is interested in that strike on that date, can I sell even if the value for me has gained?

What is your options strategy? Are you just guessing and hoping for the best? Are you aware how much decay will happen? Are you aware of the volatility and how much that can help or hurt you? Are you buying something with low gamma that isn't likely to intensify, therefore limiting your upside? These are things you should know.
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This was my issue with it as well and I much prefer the alerts on another sub I have. but I wish OA and that crew nothing but the best.

I'm very thankful for Prog, Heineken and others still here, as I continue to learn. Probably the hardest part for me, has been to just sit on hands some days (chop). Some days the best trade is no trade. Set a stop on the net free remainder and let it ride - is probably a close second!
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Curious what that other is if you don't mind sharing
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tlh3842 said:

Curious what that other is if you don't mind sharing
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He is best at clean flow alerts following big volume buys and good setups. In my experience, he also usually gets good entries on them (posts his entry, his stop and you can see his timestamp of when he posted it). He uses slack, which seems to work well.
He had NVDA calls this past week, I played AMD and FTV instead. and the previous week, he did well on SQ puts and AMD calls (pre earnings).
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What's the cost for each of those services? I see duck is 89.99 month. What is oa1?
El_duderino
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I think $100/month. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
Diggity
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Heard it got up to 200 shares of WWR per month.

Too rich for my blood
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Diggity said:

Heard it got up to 200 shares of WWR per month.

Too rich for my blood
If it stays there he may end up paying you.
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Couple of articles relating to mining: One on scrutiny of power consumption of mining ops -- seems to be politically motivated under the guise of energy, but my guess it is concern over control of money. The other is the effect of mining on the town of Granbury. I was just down there in Dec myself, but did not hear the noise they are talking about, although I don't doubt the immediate neighbors could be affected...

https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2024/02/02/the-us-government-seems-to-be-closing-in-on-bitcoin-mining/amp/

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However, the survey writers seem to have already answered their own question about whether Bitcoin poses risks to the general public and are looking for data to support that conclusion.


https://time.com/6590155/bitcoin-mining-noise-texas/

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Erik Kojola, a senior Climate Research Specialist for Greenpeace USA, says he's monitored similar complaints from residents near new bitcoin mining centers across the country, in Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, and upstate New York. He also contends that bitcoin mining poses a much larger threat to the environment. "Bitcoin mining is essentially a lifeline for fossil fuels," he says. "It's ultimately creating a new industrial scale demand for energy at a time where we need to be reducing our energy use."
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So how do y'all prep for Monday's opening? I am not trading options right now, just curious if you have a screen set up to survey for buy/sell opportunities entering the week.
El_duderino
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Keeping my eye on NOV if it can hold above $17.
Tibbers
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Keep an eye on $GVSI i expect big swings Monday and Tuesday. Supposedly there is a presser coming on Tuesday announcing the two companies merging with the shell. Who knows what to expect, except I think it will be a wild week. Again, no idea, but could be a fun little lotto. Probably won't be because I'm a moron but a fella can dream.
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Gonna buy some 6-month T-bills at 5.2 percent. So exciting!!
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nortex97 said:

So how do y'all prep for Monday's opening? I am not trading options right now, just curious if you have a screen set up to survey for buy/sell opportunities entering the week.
My guess is the beginning of the week spends time back in the 4900-4950 chop range. I see a lot of confluence with indicators and trend lines on ES with a late March 5125 range high. So I'm inherently long biased unless we first break 4750 (big support) and then follow through under 4700 (look out below potential). But usually when these things get close to major confluence points, they don't go straight there. I fear the meat of the move has happened and its going to be choppy up for the next two months, likely more difficult trading than the last two months have been. 5000 is also huge psychological resistance even though there's nothing there other than the round number itself to indicate it as a topping area. The market likely flirts with it multiple times before breaking through.

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I have quite a few shares still from my amc pop before I knew anything about the market haha. Kept them for 3 years because why not so let's rocket
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Charismatic Megafauna said:

I've been noticing over the last few months that the market will reverse just shy of the big targets or s/r lines. I don't know if it's retail front running targets, mm front running retail, or just a general sign of a skittish market, but it seems to happen a lot recently. In yesterday's case we aaaaalmost hit es 5000 then gave up what, a buck fifty? I didn't think the selling action seemed severe enough to be a reaction to news
Yes, it was definitely a sign of a skittish market. IMO, it was retail, not institutions, that were selling when news of the airstrikes in Syria and Iraq hit the wire. Everyone can agree that the market is overheated and people are nervous. You can't predict when it happens, but that was one of the signs signaling a short term top in market is getting close. It won't take much to make people sell, they don't want to be without a chair when the music stops.

Note: Sorry for delayed reply. It was rough weekend because my son's cat was really sick and even had to take him to the pet ER. It was pricey but it looks like he'll make it and a really badass cat.
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nortex97 said:

So how do y'all prep for Monday's opening? I am not trading options right now, just curious if you have a screen set up to survey for buy/sell opportunities entering the week.
I look at the charts of the stocks on my primary focus list and identify candidates. I then see if they report earnings this coming week. I see if any of their larger peers report earnings this week if they do not. Then I look at the futures Sunday night before bed to gauge what's happening overseas. Then I just wait to see what unfolds tomorrow.
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PLTR looking for a breakout tomorrow with earnings? Seems to have found a recent support at $16 and moving up from there with a new higher low as well.
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Bocephus said:

Gonna buy some 6-month T-bills at 5.2 percent. So exciting!!


Prob a dumb question, but how to you buy T bills? I'm told to be weary of bank CDs so I need a new spot to park cash.

Tia!
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El_duderino said:

PLTR looking for a breakout tomorrow with earnings? Seems to have found a recent support at $16 and moving up from there with a new higher low as well.


No sure if earnings will do anything, but I still see $12 as ultimate support with $14 being absolutely critical to not getting there. ProgN was right to watch it at $14. That it's held on above that is a great sign. I don't think it overshot at all on its run into the $20's. This consolidation since then is classic bulls and bears. The bulls have a great chance of winning soon. But not guaranteed of course.
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bmoochie said:

I have quite a few shares still from my amc pop before I knew anything about the market haha. Kept them for 3 years because why not so let's rocket


Same, been net free for three years but man, I'm starting to get a little excited about who the merging companies might be. We do know however that it is not Propy. I don't want to speculate because I'm always wrong but with 2 billion outstanding shares, I'll freak out if they ink a company with billion+ market cap.

A boy can dream.
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El_duderino said:

PLTR looking for a breakout tomorrow with earnings? Seems to have found a recent support at $16 and moving up from there with a new higher low as well.
Gun to my head, yes it looks great for breaking out Tuesday after ER on Monday AH. They've had increasing earnings qtr to qtr the last year. The charts are showing it's tight and coiled for a good move, up or down. They have several big corporations, and the government, as customers. They're mentioned by several firms as an AI player to own. The SPX wants to print 5000, which will help. IMO, their mistake was going public with too many shares because it minimizes reaction in their stock price. However, it also minimizes a huge downside move on bad news. They have 2.17B share float, that's why their EPS appears miniscule.

Very impressive my friend, hat tip to you sir, because PLTR is my top target tomorrow before the close, depending on how the macro-market is looking. If that looks good, then I'm planning to play their earnings. I will post if/when I buy tomorrow. I will be buying shares, NOT OPTIONS. I'm looking at it as a trade. This will not be another POWL or SMCI due to their float, but it could give you a 3-5 pt move this week and won't crush your account if they disappoint. If they do disappoint, it's also one that I'm not scared to hold.
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Thanks Prog. yes I was going to be going with shares as well if I do anything. seems to be a decent r/r ratio and looks promising on the charts.
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El_duderino said:

Thanks Prog. yes I was going to be going with shares as well if I do anything. seems to be a decent r/r ratio and looks promising on the charts.
It looks great for a trade, but I'm not expecting a 50% move in either direction and that's why I'm considering buying a bigger size. PLTR isn't expensive and if I buy a sizeable position and we're right, then it's worth it. Stocks with their float, I have to remind myself of ROI for the time. Should they exceed expectations and give strong forward guidance, then print low to mid 20's, I'll take that ROI in less than a day. $17 to $23ish possible ROI in a week, isn't bad at all.

I'm a huge believer of stacking singles that grows my account and others. They add up and instead of buying 100 shares, then you'll be able to buy 200,500,1000, etc. as those singles compound.
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Definitely not expecting a POWl/SMCI move, but looking to get the momentum going in the right direction with a base hit as you said.
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Towns03 said:

Bocephus said:

Gonna buy some 6-month T-bills at 5.2 percent. So exciting!!


Prob a dumb question, but how to you buy T bills? I'm told to be weary of bank CDs so I need a new spot to park cash.

Tia!


I can do it in my fidelity account under trading fixed income
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
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Towns03 said:

Bocephus said:

Gonna buy some 6-month T-bills at 5.2 percent. So exciting!!


Prob a dumb question, but how to you buy T bills? I'm told to be weary of bank CDs so I need a new spot to park cash.

Tia!
Treasurydirect.gov

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Also, rumor is PLTR will get S&P 500 inclusion in April.
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Marathon Digital Holdings Announces Bitcoin Production and Mining Operation Updates for January 2024 :: Marathon Digital Holdings (MARA)

MARA has been mining far fewer blocks in January. Was unknown as to why. It appears now to be equipment failures that will be fixed next couple of weeks. Article should calm the bulls and tell the bears their time is almost up.
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