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In reply to FJ43 • 8:38p, 6/11/21
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OA and some of you other guys have been so generous and patient with all of us it truly does move mountains.

It may seem silly to some, but I pray for God's blessings to be with all of you guys who share like you do with us on here. Kindness does get paid forward and the world will be a better place for all of us if more people followed the model employed on this thread in every facet of society.

Amen.
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In reply to $30,000 Millionaire • 8:59p, 6/11/21
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$30,000 Millionaire said:
StrawberryFields said:
$30,000 Millionaire said:
who is it and how much are they charging? I don't see why you shouldn't pay if it makes money for you.

Can I find all of my own setups, yes, but do I get exposure to a lot more from Simpler, Redler, and Hidden Pivots - yes.

Can you post a list of the people you follow and/or subscribe to and what they provide? I'd like to have several different sources I can go to, looking for the overlap of recommendations, levels, etc. I follow several on Twitter now, but I'm always looking for more!

Because while I might be able to find my own setups that I think are good, I don't trust myself enough to execute those without some confirmation from someone else who is more knowledgeable than me (which is basically everybody).
this is who I pay attention to and whose opinions I value (free)

  • OA / TexAgs
  • Adam Mancini
  • Ripster
  • Zack Morris (more for entertainment)
  • PharmDCA (biotech)
  • TicTockTick (also entertainment, but dude is smart)
  • Trading Thomas (now that he has a sub, not as good)
  • Julia Cordova
  • Don't fade me
  • Northman Trader (we are too similar in macro view, but he is really really smart)
  • Jam Croissant (Cem Karsan)

Who I pay for and why:

  • HiddenPivots - charts/setups. There is simply not a better chartist that I have found. HP is absolutely amazing and the value for the cost is unreal. If you are an intermediate or greater trader, I don't see how you can't follow him.
  • Scott Redler premium - not the VTF but his premium twitter/newsletter and video recaps. These are great Honestly, Scott is a little hard to follow if you're trying to read his twitter, so I do it just for the newsletter/commentary. He's a solid trader. I don't follow his picks often, but his commentary is worth it. You need to be an intermediate trader to get the most value out of Scott
  • Simpler Trading options gold - live trading 8-3 every day. I pay attention to Henry Gambell and John Carter, explicitly for the commentary. They're both better traders than me. If I agree with their judgment I will sometimes enter the same or similar trades. Raghee is a solid trader, but we are stylistically so different I can't follow her. I'll listen to what Bruce says sometimes. I don't think the junior traders have an edge over me, so I don't really listen. They have other subscriptions, I have never tried them so I don't know if they're good or not. Their indicators are very good, you can find similar on TOS or customize it yourself. Side note, indicators are to confirm your judgment, not to tell you what to do.

If you are newer to trading, Simpler is probably the best possible education you can get and I think it would shorten your learning curve. I think their current rate is $200/month, so you've got to be committed to get value out of that. I have noticed that Carter is less active in getting on the live trading sessions than he was a couple of years ago and what they say does get a bit repetitive. Still, it is good to surround yourself with other traders if you want to be successful with this. It really helps to hear other qualified opinions to avoid your own bull crap and confirmation bias. Trading can be a very lonely game.

Thinking back to the genesis of this thread, I regret not being an active participant years earlier, but I think OA is probably happy with the quality of traders that have developed and stepped up to be part of this community. Work from home was my catalyst to re-engage. I can't say enough about how amazing this board is.


This is a great list that brought to mind a random thought regarding trading in a company structure instead of as an individual. There are rules the IRS looks at when looking at a company built for trading and this swerves into one of them. The trader has to be finding his own trades. You cannot get your trades from a subscription service and also get the tax advantages of forming a company for trading purposes. That's a hard rule.

If that didn't make sense let me know and I'll explain better.
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9:00p, 6/11/21
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Be wary of people selling their "stock picks". This is just like a sports tout selling you the game of the year!

If these picks were so good they wouldn't charge for them, they would just place them and then go make a fruity drink and chill by their pool.

This is the only place I find genuine information without hidden motives. Sorry but its just true.
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9:16p, 6/11/21
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So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 9:59p, 6/11/21
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Humbly appreciate that sentiment. Seriously considering staying with a Seminar and educational site that free's me up to dig fully into trading. I would never charge for "picks" because that isn't my "why" anymore.

I love seeing people develop skills and build a solid bank account. At this point keeping it simple has a nice ring to it.

Regardless of whatever you decide to do for you, we'll be thankful for your contributions to this thread that sparked real learning in so many of us
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In reply to gougler08 • 10:00p, 6/11/21
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So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?

At this point I don't need a reason. Back to the pile!!!
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In reply to gougler08 • 10:04p, 6/11/21
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gougler08 said:
So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
i had a $5 wide call butterfly in TSLA. I pinned it right on $610 and they closed me out at 2.20 30 minutes before the bell instead of at the 4.87 that it closed at. Literally cost me $2670.
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In reply to Ragoo • 10:21p, 6/11/21
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Ragoo said:
gougler08 said:
So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
i had a $5 wide call butterfly in TSLA. I pinned it right on $610 and they closed me out at 2.20 30 minutes before the bell instead of at the 4.87 that it closed at. Literally cost me $2670.
damn, sorry to hear. and here I am complaining about the new penny stock agreement Fidelity has (stupid). Add to that no same day expiration options. They're becoming RH 2.0.
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In reply to Ragoo • 10:30p, 6/11/21
Ragoo said:
gougler08 said:
So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
i had a $5 wide call butterfly in TSLA. I pinned it right on $610 and they closed me out at 2.20 30 minutes before the bell instead of at the 4.87 that it closed at. Literally cost me $2670.

If you don't have lvl 5 options you should get that. Sucks that they sold that off though. Did you buy the legs individually or as a multi-leg trade?
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In reply to Bob Knights Paper Hands • 10:36p, 6/11/21
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Tomas Hermensa said:
Ragoo said:
gougler08 said:
So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
i had a $5 wide call butterfly in TSLA. I pinned it right on $610 and they closed me out at 2.20 30 minutes before the bell instead of at the 4.87 that it closed at. Literally cost me $2670.

If you don't have lvl 5 options you should get that. Sucks that they sold that off though. Did you buy the legs individually or as a multi-leg trade?
Multi

I also had a "working" limit close at $4.75 that they cancelled on me to then close at the $2.20
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10:44p, 6/11/21
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So I've always been pretty simple when it comes to investing- I invest mostly in mutual funds that grow 8-12% a year and give it time.

Would the advice of people here help me out if I don't do calls/puts and only buy shares? I understand how options work but have never taken part, mostly due to not understanding how to execute them in Fidelity.
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In reply to Aggies2009 • 11:04p, 6/11/21
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I mean you don't get the same % gains but if OA gives a call play or a long term play there is no reason why you can't get some shares to swing. Sounds like it would be lower risk for you anyways if you are used to mutual funds.
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In reply to Aggies2009 • 11:04p, 6/11/21
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Yes.

Whenever old army says "mass accumulation " start accumulating. And maybe learn simple calls and put options to help improve your average price .

Don't rush options until you understand it . My two cents.
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In reply to Ragoo • 11:34p, 6/11/21
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Ragoo said:
gougler08 said:
So I was out all day, but why are we mad at Fidelity?
i had a $5 wide call butterfly in TSLA. I pinned it right on $610 and they closed me out at 2.20 30 minutes before the bell instead of at the 4.87 that it closed at. Literally cost me $2670.


I can tell you TOS would have done the same thing. If you don't have the cash to fulfill the option that's close to finishing ITM they will close the position out. I've had it happen on a GOOG spread that was close but out and finished out.
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In reply to SF2004 • 12:28a, 6/12/21
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SF2004 said:
Be wary of people selling their "stock picks". This is just like a sports tout selling you the game of the year!

If these picks were so good they wouldn't charge for them, they would just place them and then go make a fruity drink and chill by their pool.

This is the only place I find genuine information without hidden motives. Sorry but its just true.


I've been an Aggie literally since birth and as the story has been told, I was handed to my mom on Jan. 1 1992 during the Cotton Bowl. My dad is a huge Aggie and we watched the game together and I haven't missed a game since I can remember.

I trust the Aggie network and the mission behind it. The people on this thread have a genuine interest in growing peoples financial future and have a vested interest in OTHERS. MEN FOR OTHERS. Y'all really care and it is special. Point being I see plays and take my own risk but I see someone sold on a stock and when I go I go.

ROKU/MGNI was last year. WWR/FUBO this year. Who knows what's to come. But I'm can tell you are sure as the sky is blue that I wake up and check this thread and before I go to bed I check this thread and every hour in between.

Y'all are awesome and all are changing lives through this.
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In reply to Aggies2009 • 7:00a, 6/12/21
Aggies2009 said:
So I've always been pretty simple when it comes to investing- I invest mostly in mutual funds that grow 8-12% a year and give it time.

Would the advice of people here help me out if I don't do calls/puts and only buy shares? I understand how options work but have never taken part, mostly due to not understanding how to execute them in Fidelity.


I was on your exact situation 18 months ago. If you can try to follow along everyday. Understand why someone is entering a trade and start really small with options.
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In reply to oldarmy1 • 8:23a, 6/12/21
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oldarmy1 said:
Humbly appreciate that sentiment. Seriously considering staying with a Seminar and educational site that free's me up to dig fully into trading. I would never charge for "picks" because that isn't my "why" anymore.

I love seeing people develop skills and build a solid bank account. At this point keeping it simple has a nice ring to it.
Count me as another who sincerely appreciates all you have done on this thread. I have been following it a few years now and consider all of you my TA Stock Market family.

And one of your "whys" is what makes you who you are. Speaking of which, we haven't seen a link in awhile.
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10:59a, 6/12/21

We just covered this in the zoom call.

Wealth gained hastily will dwindle. but whoever gathers little by little will increase it.
Proverbs 13:11

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In reply to FJ43 • 11:02a, 6/12/21
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We just covered this in the zoom call.



Ripster was on the zoom call!!!
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CrazyRichAggie said:
FJ43 said:

We just covered this in the zoom call.



Ripster was on the zoom call!!!


Since I've been outed, I just want to express again how much I've learned from OA. I couldn't have done what I did without this thread!
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Who do us plebs turn to when OA abandons us after the sale?


We all take turns doing this on the dock at his lake house until OA returns.
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In reply to $30,000 Millionaire • 12:47p, 6/12/21
$30,000 Millionaire said:
StrawberryFields said:
$30,000 Millionaire said:
who is it and how much are they charging? I don't see why you shouldn't pay if it makes money for you.

Can I find all of my own setups, yes, but do I get exposure to a lot more from Simpler, Redler, and Hidden Pivots - yes.

Can you post a list of the people you follow and/or subscribe to and what they provide? I'd like to have several different sources I can go to, looking for the overlap of recommendations, levels, etc. I follow several on Twitter now, but I'm always looking for more!

Because while I might be able to find my own setups that I think are good, I don't trust myself enough to execute those without some confirmation from someone else who is more knowledgeable than me (which is basically everybody).
this is who I pay attention to and whose opinions I value (free)

  • OA / TexAgs
  • Adam Mancini
  • Ripster
  • Zack Morris (more for entertainment)
  • PharmDCA (biotech)
  • TicTockTick (also entertainment, but dude is smart)
  • Trading Thomas (now that he has a sub, not as good)
  • Julia Cordova
  • Don't fade me
  • Northman Trader (we are too similar in macro view, but he is really really smart)
  • Jam Croissant (Cem Karsan)

Who I pay for and why:

  • HiddenPivots - charts/setups. There is simply not a better chartist that I have found. HP is absolutely amazing and the value for the cost is unreal. If you are an intermediate or greater trader, I don't see how you can't follow him.
  • Scott Redler premium - not the VTF but his premium twitter/newsletter and video recaps. These are great Honestly, Scott is a little hard to follow if you're trying to read his twitter, so I do it just for the newsletter/commentary. He's a solid trader. I don't follow his picks often, but his commentary is worth it. You need to be an intermediate trader to get the most value out of Scott
  • Simpler Trading options gold - live trading 8-3 every day. I pay attention to Henry Gambell and John Carter, explicitly for the commentary. They're both better traders than me. If I agree with their judgment I will sometimes enter the same or similar trades. Raghee is a solid trader, but we are stylistically so different I can't follow her. I'll listen to what Bruce says sometimes. I don't think the junior traders have an edge over me, so I don't really listen. They have other subscriptions, I have never tried them so I don't know if they're good or not. Their indicators are very good, you can find similar on TOS or customize it yourself. Side note, indicators are to confirm your judgment, not to tell you what to do.

If you are newer to trading, Simpler is probably the best possible education you can get and I think it would shorten your learning curve. I think their current rate is $200/month, so you've got to be committed to get value out of that. I have noticed that Carter is less active in getting on the live trading sessions than he was a couple of years ago and what they say does get a bit repetitive. Still, it is good to surround yourself with other traders if you want to be successful with this. It really helps to hear other qualified opinions to avoid your own bull crap and confirmation bias. Trading can be a very lonely game.

Thinking back to the genesis of this thread, I regret not being an active participant years earlier, but I think OA is probably happy with the quality of traders that have developed and stepped up to be part of this community. Work from home was my catalyst to re-engage. I can't say enough about how amazing this board is.
This is a fantastic list, thanks so much for taking the time to post it. I really appreciate everybody on this board for being so willing to share their knowledge and insight to everyone else. The level and depth of what can be learned here is awesome.

I'm basically a swing trader with stocks and options. I follow the market early each day, then late, not much in between. So I'm looking for good setups that will pay in a few days to a few weeks/months. I don't do any day trading right now, but seeing at FJ43's results with his test scalping account, I may need to start considering that!
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1:18p, 6/12/21
After the run CLF made this week it is at the top of its channel and around 3 atr. What do y'all think about buying puts? Or maybe a call debit spread?




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1:22p, 6/12/21
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I'm pretty much like StrawberryFields.... I'm more looking to get into swing trading, and that list is appreciated. I'm curious if anyone has any other sources, sites, books etc that they'd recommend for new swing traders as well.

I'm a long time lurker here... haven't hardly posted... but have learned a lot already. Best thread on TexAgs.
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1:55p, 6/12/21
Blue Origin auctions seat on spaceflight with Bezos for $28 million

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/12/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-auctions-spaceflight-seat-for-28-million.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

Did you get the winning bid OA?
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In reply to clinto • 2:17p, 6/12/21
You could, but remember it's more difficult to profit from the short side during a bullish trend. It's difficult to time the retrace and if you go in before the retrace begins, even if you give yourself long enough timeframe you don't know how high the bull trend goes so it's tough to correctly expect the retracement to go. You end up getting more into speculation.

If you identify it as a potential setup and wait for confirmation that the retrace has started, it's more manageable. Even then before you invest you should pick where you call it a failed retrace and get out (whether manual or using stops). That way you won't let your emotions cloud judgement and hang on hoping for the retracement while the stock price rides the 3 ATR up for long enough that your trade doesn't work.

I say this from experience.
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3:25p, 6/12/21
Anybody have a trading journal spreadsheet template they really like for stocks & options?
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6:55p, 6/12/21
Looking at this chart of $PLTR, would you look for a break of 25.22 as confirmation of an uptrend, or would you wait until 26.20 or 27.47? It's already at +1 and would probably be +2 if it made a move up.

Or would you wait for a pullback to -1/-2 ATR to enter? Buy the This is where I get hung up on identifying good entries.

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Above $26 because that's where my covered calls expire on Friday.
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In reply to clinto • 8:18p, 6/12/21
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clinto said:
After the run CLF made this week it is at the top of its channel and around 3 atr. What do y'all think about buying puts? Or maybe a call debit spread?

The stock is clearly in an uptrend. Lower probability to short it. Higher probability is to wait for a pullback to the mean and then get in for a long trade if the setup is right.

Solid rule of thumb is not to short stocks in an uptrend unless it's a hedge for you (in which case indexes are easiest).



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I replied in the original comment. Sorry.
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In reply to LarryL • 8:22p, 6/12/21
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StrawberryFields said:
Looking at this chart of $PLTR, would you look for a break of 25.22 as confirmation of an uptrend, or would you wait until 26.20 or 27.47? It's already at +1 and would probably be +2 if it made a move up.

Or would you wait for a pullback to -1/-2 ATR to enter? Buy the This is where I get hung up on identifying good entries.



Solid moves tend to back test after they breakout. I would probably put my resistance line a little bit higher going further left on the chart. You want to see a daily close above resistance and you want to see volume. If PLTR establishes support above that line, that's a good time to consider ~August options. Position size appropriately. I have gotten really lean on longs.
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