So if Trump gets either of AZ or NV he wins right (assuming that their calls of PA and GA are accurate + NC is eventually called)

Anyone know why NC is still hanging out undecided? That **** aint changing anymore

Correct

Penn isn't called yet though. Last I saw they still have 1MM votes to count there and most are expected to be D.

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Penn isn't called yet though. Last I saw they still have 1MM votes to count there and most are expected to be D.

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Trump team is calling PA, so hence my caveat of if they're accurate

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You would think this country with all of it's technological ability could develop a highly secured, monitored system for people to vote via a portal. One vote per living person that is legally eligible to vote. Seems like the brain trust in this country could figure out how to match a person to the other government databases. Use your phone, PC or whatever to vote.

Geez we might as well just dip our fingers in ink and vote. if we can trade every form of product on this thread instantly how the hell can we not securely automate voting.

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So...I can't really give you a terribly detailed answer, but I did discuss this with my brother who works for the Navy's weapons development group as a programmer. Essentially, there's no such thing as a "highly secured" enough system. Whatever system you create, someone can hack it given enough time and resources, and that China, Russia, and a few others all had the resources.

Now, I will grant that he's not the most optimistic of people in the world, but he's also one of the smartest I've ever met. I would say it's some sort of natural law that there is no perfect system, and in computers where people are actively trying to break it I'd say it's even moreso.

Maximus_Meridius said:

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FJ43 said:

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You would think this country with all of it's technological ability could develop a highly secured, monitored system for people to vote via a portal. One vote per living person that is legally eligible to vote. Seems like the brain trust in this country could figure out how to match a person to the other government databases. Use your phone, PC or whatever to vote.

Geez we might as well just dip our fingers in ink and vote. if we can trade every form of product on this thread instantly how the hell can we not securely automate voting.

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So...I can't really give you a terribly detailed answer, but I did discuss this with my brother who works for the Navy's weapons development group as a programmer. Essentially, there's no such thing as a "highly secured" enough system. Whatever system you create, someone can hack it given enough time and resources, and that China, Russia, and a few others all had the resources.

Now, I will grant that he's not the most optimistic of people in the world, but he's also one of the smartest I've ever met. I would say it's some sort of natural law that there is no perfect system, and in computers where people are actively trying to break it I'd say it's even moreso.

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I am sure there will be vulnerabilities but I find it hard to imagine the private sector (Lockheed, Boeing, Apple, Microsoft, hell...Amazon, etc.) couldn't develop something better and more 'reliable' than rogue people throwing away or destroying paper ballots for either candidate.

I have no doubt it wouldn't be easy but if we can develop the things we do in this country, something monitored with technology would be light years ahead of sharpies, pens, 'broken' water pipes, 'viruses' and the uncontrolled handling votes with personal emotional attachment.

Back to stocks.... Lots of news coming across the last couple hours that IMO should provide for a bumpy ride.

Maximus_Meridius said:

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FJ43 said:

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You would think this country with all of it's technological ability could develop a highly secured, monitored system for people to vote via a portal. One vote per living person that is legally eligible to vote. Seems like the brain trust in this country could figure out how to match a person to the other government databases. Use your phone, PC or whatever to vote.

Geez we might as well just dip our fingers in ink and vote. if we can trade every form of product on this thread instantly how the hell can we not securely automate voting.

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So...I can't really give you a terribly detailed answer, but I did discuss this with my brother who works for the Navy's weapons development group as a programmer. Essentially, there's no such thing as a "highly secured" enough system. Whatever system you create, someone can hack it given enough time and resources, and that China, Russia, and a few others all had the resources.

Now, I will grant that he's not the most optimistic of people in the world, but he's also one of the smartest I've ever met. I would say it's some sort of natural law that there is no perfect system, and in computers where people are actively trying to break it I'd say it's even moreso.

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Why can the banks create a system where no Russian bank can just "create" digital 1's & 0's in an account and spend it? Seems like we should have our banking software guys write our election software.

I don't know anything about Blockchain in reality, but isn't it designed to keep thing open, honest, and accountable? Surely someone smarter than me could come up with a way to use it, no?

Like I said, I don't know anything about how it actually works, but that thought crossed my mind looking at bitcoin last night.

Is there a way to play the student loan bailout? I see that coming once Biden takes office.

backintexas2013 said:

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Is there a way to play the student loan bailout? I see that coming once Biden takes office.

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R's are likely to hold the Senate. There won't be a student loan bailout.

From your phone. Click reply and hit the image button.

I'm right there with you..

Didn't someone here suggest UPWK calls?

Well done Pro. Beautiful, enjoys golf and spending time with you. I'm impressed.

Is that your dad or hers? I'm assuming hers, but it is surprising how much he looks like you.

gig em 02 said:

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Didn't someone here suggest UPWK calls?

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Don't remember that one but could have missed it. Maybe try the search function.

I didn't realize how old Prog was! You are definitely out kicking there man.

BREwmaster said:

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UPWK - holding Nov monthlies, 25C, cheap play on super bullish chart. PT is 28 to 30. I'm long shares as well, about to sell CC's on it.

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Brewmaster gettin mcinnis rich off these

Futures up 26. If that can even hold 15 DKNG might payout in less than 24 hrs.

You think relief rally to ~3500? I think we get that and then fall apart.