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ProgN
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It would be bad for the market because if the SC rules against the tariffs then the government will have to payback almost a trillion dollars that it has collected already. That blows a massive whole in the budget and interest rates will spike higher.
BucketofBalls99
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Yeah the talking heads on these shows seem to think a negative ruling on tariffs would be a positive for the market, but who knows.

Edit: just read your post Prog….it actually seems to make more sense
jamey
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ProgN said:

It would be bad for the market because if the SC rules against the tariffs then the government will have to payback almost a trillion dollars that it has collected already. That blows a massive whole in the budget and interest rates will spike higher.


I thought it was more in the 500B per year range, not a trillion in 9 months?
ProgN
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I'm not sure of the exact figure and don't care enough to look it up but it's still a huge amount of money that will be required to be refunded.
TXAGGIES
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ProgN said:

I'm not sure of the exact figure and don't care enough to look it up but it's still a huge amount of money that will be required to be refunded.

it will never be refunded no matter the decision, they will use another mechanism to keep them in place.
ProgN
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We can't assume that because I doubt he wants SCOTUS to turn against him with 3 years left in office. The best ruling would be that the tariffs are legal because the markets have already digested it.
Mr.Milkshake
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Something to keep an eye on for bear case - the way things are escalating between US, China, Russia. Applying pressure, cutting off access to minerals and western inroads. Lots of propaganda getting pushed as well regarding Chinese vessels and capabilities. AI, etc. China doing 'training' around Taiwan. Russia unwilling to end Ukraine. There seems to be momentum towards something happening
Hill08
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TSM earning before bell next Thursday. Ride to $400
Heineken-Ashi
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Something to keep an eye on for bear case - the way things are escalating between US, China, Russia. Applying pressure, cutting off access to minerals and western inroads. Lots of propaganda getting pushed as well regarding Chinese vessels and capabilities. AI, etc. China doing 'training' around Taiwan. Russia unwilling to end Ukraine. There seems to be momentum towards something happening

jamey
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Something to keep an eye on for bear case - the way things are escalating between US, China, Russia. Applying pressure, cutting off access to minerals and western inroads. Lots of propaganda getting pushed as well regarding Chinese vessels and capabilities. AI, etc. China doing 'training' around Taiwan. Russia unwilling to end Ukraine. There seems to be momentum towards something happening



Theres a lot of potential crap on the horizon. Japan carry trade, tariffs, another possible gov shut down..etc


Even Tom Lee thinks we see a 15 - 20% pullback before heading higher in the second half of the year
BucketofBalls99
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Hill08 said:

TSM earning before bell next Thursday. Ride to $400

I don't play earnings anymore, but my gosh, I would think one is a slam dunk. But I thought the same for NVDA and AVGO. They pretty much both killed everything, if I recall correctly, and still dropped.
El_duderino
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Credit spreads the way to go for earnings. Collect on that IV
“We don’t rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training.”
Hill08
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BucketofBalls99 said:

Hill08 said:

TSM earning before bell next Thursday. Ride to $400

I don't play earnings anymore, but my gosh, I would think one is a slam dunk. But I thought the same for NVDA and AVGO. They pretty much both killed everything, if I recall correctly, and still dropped.


I hear ya. I am not an "earnings play" guy either, but i think (hope) it goes the way of MU couple weeks ago.
ProgN
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Something to keep an eye on for bear case - the way things are escalating between US, China, Russia. Applying pressure, cutting off access to minerals and western inroads. Lots of propaganda getting pushed as well regarding Chinese vessels and capabilities. AI, etc. China doing 'training' around Taiwan. Russia unwilling to end Ukraine. There seems to be momentum towards something happening

This is an excellent and constructive post, thank you.
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aggies4life
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Don't recall anyone bringing up sandisk recently or ever on here?? All of us asleep at the wheel?

LMCane
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The Trump Administration can levy Section 301 Tariffs if the SCOTUS rules against them on Executive Orders.

the only problem is the markets will tank before digesting the follow up posts from the White House that the tariffs will remain in effect under other regulatory frameworks.
TxAG#2011
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That chart on the 1Y looks identical to POWL. Moon mission incoming
Hill08
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LMCane said:

The Trump Administration can levy Section 301 Tariffs if the SCOTUS rules against them on Executive Orders.

the only problem is the markets will tank before digesting the follow up posts from the White House that the tariffs will remain in effect under other regulatory frameworks.


Do you really think the markets will tank? The market is very aware this might happen. I could be wrong but I read there's a 77% chance the SC will repeal the tariffs. There might be a down day or two, but ultimately I don't think the market will react too negative
Gaeilge
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Hill08 said:

LMCane said:

The Trump Administration can levy Section 301 Tariffs if the SCOTUS rules against them on Executive Orders.

the only problem is the markets will tank before digesting the follow up posts from the White House that the tariffs will remain in effect under other regulatory frameworks.


Do you really think the markets will tank? The market is very aware this might happen. I could be wrong but I read there's a 77% chance the SC will repeal the tariffs. There might be a down day or two, but ultimately I don't think the market will react too negative

The repeal won't be in its entirety if they do. It will only be some of the goods.
EnronAg
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markets are starting to sniff something out on the ruling and back to rippy!!!
Heineken-Ashi
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Hill08 said:

LMCane said:

The Trump Administration can levy Section 301 Tariffs if the SCOTUS rules against them on Executive Orders.

the only problem is the markets will tank before digesting the follow up posts from the White House that the tariffs will remain in effect under other regulatory frameworks.


Do you really think the markets will tank? The market is very aware this might happen. I could be wrong but I read there's a 77% chance the SC will repeal the tariffs. There might be a down day or two, but ultimately I don't think the market will react too negative

Don't care about whatever news or catalysts you guys want to attribute something to, but put to call ratio is back to historic lows. Market tends to turn once everyone is rowing in the same direction unanimously, often around the VIX expiration window middle of the month.
I bleed maroon
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aggies4life said:

Don't recall anyone bringing up sandisk recently or ever on here?? All of us asleep at the wheel?



Well, I have an order in for a bear call credit spread. I don't see this one continuing to go exponential. (famous last words?)
MrWonderful
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VRNS having a good day. Can't remember if that was a Prog or HA rec, but thanks in any case!
Heineken-Ashi
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If anyone wants a hedge on PLTR, buy Feb $140 puts here, currently $1.45 per contract. Would pay $8-$10 should it come down as modeled. Cheap insurance with high reward.

zgolfz85
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MrWonderful said:

VRNS having a good day. Can't remember if that was a Prog or HA rec, but thanks in any case!


I think it was HA. Wondering how much more room to run.
MrWonderful
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IIRC he said buy it and forget it until it was at $100
South Platte
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MrWonderful said:

IIRC he said buy it and forget it until it was at $100

LOL, that's literally impossible to do.
Heineken-Ashi
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zgolfz85 said:

MrWonderful said:

VRNS having a good day. Can't remember if that was a Prog or HA rec, but thanks in any case!


I think it was HA. Wondering how much more room to run.

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flashplayer
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That is correct. He also said 3-5 year price target in the mid 200s. Thank yall for bringing it back up. In for a good chunk of shares here just under $36.
Hill08
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Heineken-Ashi said:

If anyone wants a hedge on PLTR, buy Feb $140 puts here, currently $1.45 per contract. Would pay $8-$10 should it come down as modeled. Cheap insurance with high reward.




Interesting. Thanks for the chart. Bought 10 of the Feb 145's
Heineken-Ashi
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Hill08 said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

If anyone wants a hedge on PLTR, buy Feb $140 puts here, currently $1.45 per contract. Would pay $8-$10 should it come down as modeled. Cheap insurance with high reward.




Interesting. Thanks for the chart. Bought 10 of the Feb 145's

Expect them to lose. That's why it's a hedge. I only take hedge bets when the reward is high like this one.
El_duderino
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PATH
“We don’t rise to the level of our expectations, we fall to the level of our training.”
South Platte
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Guess who bought WING yesterday?
Charismatic Megafauna
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South Platte said:

Guess who bought WING yesterday?

Lol I wouldn't worry, it found support on a resistance line I have going back to August. Probably Just taking a breather. I bought calls just before close
#inprogwetrust
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