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Charismatic Megafauna said:

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Corporates...Dominated by the massive ATT deal yesterday of 30 billion... Orders were over 106 billion... This continues to show demand ...

So far so good farmer...means the big money was clamoring to get a piece of this, right?
You are correct.

The stock has been professionally driven down and coupled with a smear campaign over the last 10 months. I realize Stankey is not the brightest CEO, but Stankey is not bigger than AT&T and savvy investors know this. Weak hands sold shares cheap and they'll regret it within 12 months. T will rebound and WBD will explode.

If T stock was such a poor equity(trash) you would not see $106 billion bid coming after $31.5 billion bonds. The caveat is, bond holders are usually secured whereas shareholders are not. (Bond vs Share = Safety vs Risk)

Tomorrow is an AT&T investor call. Stankey is talking and the stock reacts just like the Market does when Powell opens his mouth. The AT&T call will overlap with the Discovery vote to do the WBD deal. The WBD deal will happen - John Malone and other majority shareholders will vote for it. It's a formality. I suspect we'll hear more details about the deal tomorrow <hopefully>

T book value is $23.29/share. It's trading at $22.98 right now.

My model has projected the DISCK spread premium has to be within $1.00 per share of T for this WBD deal to be "fair" to DISCK shareholders. That spread premium was as wide as $6.50 to $7.00 and has slowly narrowed to $1.64 today over the course of 100 days. Accounting for slippage, it may stop at $1.50 spread premium but I doubt it. It really needs to be $1.

After Warner Media leaves AT&T, there will be an accounting entry with the asset removal, likely $6 to $7 a share. That does not mean that T stock will trade at $16 or $17 ($23 - $6) the Market Makers will be buying hand over fist because the earlier announced dividend cut would yield 6.5% ($1.11 Div @ $17 share) and who wouldn't want to own that in this environment? After the spinoff I see T "trading" at $20, not $17. The WBD shares are....sky is the limit over the foreseeable future. You receive .24 shares of WBD for every share of T and you retain all T shares. NFLX hasn't had a competitor coming into the business like WBD will be. Heck, if NFLX drops to $150/share and WBD moves to $150/share I'll be more than happy. I'll maintain my T shares and just churn dividends at 6.5%($17/share) to 4.50%($24.55/share). T is solid as a rock. Stankey/CEO...if "he got quit" the stock would zoom upward.

Hope this helps you.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

long USO 75C at 1.6

Stop 1.35
out at $1.8

BOOM MF'ers
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

Folks, I know it's populist to blame Biden for inflation. Truth is the Fed is really to blame but if you want to assign presidential blame, it's Trump. Biden isn't helping obviously. Inflation was coming before any Ukraine conflict. All of you are too smart to be binary red/blue thinkers.


QE has been happening since Obama. We've had awful monetary policy well before Trump. Trump just gave it a boost and spent like crazy then covid stimulus checks went out followed by a couple Trillion dollar bills in Congress.
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I'm really starting to hate Stops. 4 times this week a stop hit and reversed.
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LGVN looks to have strong support at 7.50.
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8% inflation with a Fed rate of 0% is insanity, but it helps the Market. High rates don't help, but high inflation with zero rates are about as expansionary as it gets. That's why the market hasn't fallen apart.

Fed ain't gonna raise no rates..
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astros4545 said:

$30,000 Millionaire said:

Folks, I know it's populist to blame Biden for inflation. Truth is the Fed is really to blame but if you want to assign presidential blame, it's Trump. Biden isn't helping obviously. Inflation was coming before any Ukraine conflict. All of you are too smart to be binary red/blue thinkers.


So if Democrats were in power during Covid, they would have printed less money, is that your opinion
I ordinarily wouldn't respond, but I don't like what you're implying and I think your viewpoint on this based on your question is very basic. I said "The Fed is really to blame". The Fed is in principal neither republican nor democrat. I have no idea what would have happened if Democrats were in power, but I don't think it would be much different. It is intellectually dishonest to blame the next guy just because he's not on your team. Blame the prior guys instead, as far back as you want. Me saying something that isn't a glowing review of the Republican party or Trump does not mean I am a democrat or liberal.
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So if I am not in WWR , is now a good time to jump in?
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Any of you guys that can monitor options flows is there any action being seeing on DOCU and RIVN prior to earnings tonight.

RIVN market cap is 36B. No earnings and production targets seem like a dream given supply chain. DOCU is back to pre-Covid levels. The business is better now then two years ago but the growth is now slower.
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so back to stonks, are we headed to 4190? markets pretending to bounce here, not sure I buy it yet.
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Agfootball10 said:

So if I am not in WWR , is now a good time to jump in?
Consider yourself blessed and stay away unless you are ready to buy and not look at it for another year. I'm only in because I have net free shares from the pump last year. It's a good story but that's it. If I was coming in cold I'd want to hear more about their plans and how they will raise money.
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Dan Scott said:

Any of you guys that can monitor options flows is there any action being seeing on DOCU and RIVN prior to earnings tonight.

RIVN market cap is 36B. No earnings and production targets seem like a dream given supply chain. DOCU is back to pre-Covid levels. The business is better now then two years ago but the growth is now slower.

RIVN - I'm in 30Ps. Hero or zero but I can't see how their earnings aren't going to be a disaster.

They have no product, no revenue, and they tried to up the prices a few weeks ago and had such a revolt from pending orders that they rescinded that.

Add to it supply chain issues (chips, plus metals for batteries - Russia) and I don't see any good news coming.

Of course this is bizarro clown market world so they'll probably go to 60 tomorrow.
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Thanks farmer
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4200 is psychological. Will take good volume to punch lower. But, if it does, watch out.
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BREwmaster said:

so back to stonks, are we headed to 4190? markets pretending to bounce here, not sure I buy it yet.
Let's see if SPY rejects off 422.
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The RSI on SPY was below 50 around 43 times last year. In 2.5 months this year, it's been below 50, 48 times. This is a different market. It's really starting to look like late 2018. In late 2018 we topped at 294 dumped hard and then made 3 lower triple tops at 280 before dumping to 230 where we had the V bottom.

Now we've topped at 480. You could say we have a lower triple top around 458. If the pattern holds, we haven't had our real V bottom yet. We've only slightly breached the initial bottom and bounce. Same thing happened in 2018 followed by the true V bottom.
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50K account: buying 2 SPY 422C @ 3.15. Stop $2
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4205 is a major pivot on Woodies pivots. Have that and the big 4200 psych level below as support.
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I think it's worth a shot at a bounce here.
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LGVN big knife.
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FTAG 2000 said:

LGVN big knife.
should have taken profits with me!
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

FTAG 2000 said:

LGVN big knife.
should have taken profits with me!
Had a trailing stop locked in to protect me at 7.5
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50K account:

buying 200 shares of SPCE at 7.54
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FTAG 2000 said:

$30,000 Millionaire said:

FTAG 2000 said:

LGVN big knife.
should have taken profits with me!
Had a trailing stop locked in to protect me at 7.5
great work.

And we'll wait for it to fall to $6 and then we'll buy again!
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The juiced premiums on SPY are dangerous. I was in 220 puts on the break below 422.50 the opening price about 45 minutes ago. I got in at 2.50. Those puts are now 2.25 with SPY at 422.
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Agfootball10 said:

So if I am not in WWR , is now a good time to jump in?
If it can get back above 2.50 and show it can hold above it, that might be a safer spot to get in.

Otherwise, the way it has continued to act over the last year and a half is showing that it's heading for reverse split territory.
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SPY and QQQ both appear to be curling.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

FTAG 2000 said:

$30,000 Millionaire said:

FTAG 2000 said:

LGVN big knife.
should have taken profits with me!
Had a trailing stop locked in to protect me at 7.5
great work.

And we'll wait for it to fall to $6 and then we'll buy again!
Yeah, appreciate the lead on that one.

That combined with FJ's trailing stop tip from a ways back, felt like I actually knew what I was doing on that trade.
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oil flow here, lots of it

RIG and HAL
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Today is make or break time for VIX in that channel going back to late Feb.
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I had half a mind to put $25k in HAL when it was ~$5 two years ago. Should have pulled the trigger.
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$30,000 Millionaire said:

50K account: buying 2 SPY 422C @ 3.15. Stop $2
let's not let a green trade turn red.

Move stops to 3.2.
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The way UAL is holding up, certainly looks like calls would've been better than puts.
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SoTXAg09 said:

The way UAL is holding up, certainly looks like calls would've been better than puts.
Which UAL puts did you do?
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