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In reply to IrishTxAggie • 12:42p, 4/2/20
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IrishTxAggie said:
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Agnzona said:
There is no point in another stimulus until we can go back to work and be out and about. In fact they are not stimulus at this point they are lifelines, or life-rafts. Once we have lifted restrictions and are actively encourage to go out and about, then we can see fairly quickly which areas of the economy are likely to recover well and which ones will take more time and then the "Stimulus" can be better directed (As well as government can).


Disagree. Well funded and expanded unemployment, plus the checks are going to keep a lot of people on time with their bills.

You do not want a surge of delinquency and homelessness.
So we just print cash until our hearts desire? The money has to come from somewhere.


No. Obviously infinitely printing money is ******ed. But if we need a second stimulus while we wait for approved treatments in lieu of a vaccine so be it.

I don't think we'll need much more time than that, but if we do, the printing machine won't stop the amount of hurt coming.
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12:42p, 4/2/20
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It's entertaining watching CNBC explain market movements. They just said the current pull back now, isbecause of a tweet from someone who said Trump was exaggerating on his oil tweet.

CNBC is only useful for on screen ticker and fading the hot takes from Cramer and others.
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In reply to khaos288 • 12:44p, 4/2/20
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Agnzona said:
There is no point in another stimulus until we can go back to work and be out and about. In fact they are not stimulus at this point they are lifelines, or life-rafts. Once we have lifted restrictions and are actively encourage to go out and about, then we can see fairly quickly which areas of the economy are likely to recover well and which ones will take more time and then the "Stimulus" can be better directed (As well as government can).


Disagree. Well funded and expanded unemployment, plus the checks are going to keep a lot of people on time with their bills.

You do not want a surge of delinquency and homelessness.
No further stimulus is needed for unemployment, it already exist and is funded. If that needs revisiting later it could be.
"Fort Worth where the West begins...and Dallas is where the East peters out!"
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In reply to IrishTxAggie • 12:45p, 4/2/20
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Barty said:
Irish- Or anyone else that uses Cheddar Flow, what filters do you set and how exactly are you using their information. I got on Cheddar today and it is a bit of data overload for me. Any advice?
Just depends. I typically have mine set to orders over $200K
That is what I ended up setting it at after playing with it for a few hours this morning. Has definitely turned me on the positions I would not have seen otherwise. Now I just hope they work out. LOL
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12:47p, 4/2/20
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Any further stimulus should be focused on getting working capital to small businesses once there is a light at the end of the tunnel. There will be demand and underlying infrastructure, so getting capital in the hands of businesses to fund payroll and inventory will be huge with regard to the slope of the recovery.
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In reply to Agnzona • 12:49p, 4/2/20
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Agnzona said:
khaos288 said:
Agnzona said:
There is no point in another stimulus until we can go back to work and be out and about. In fact they are not stimulus at this point they are lifelines, or life-rafts. Once we have lifted restrictions and are actively encourage to go out and about, then we can see fairly quickly which areas of the economy are likely to recover well and which ones will take more time and then the "Stimulus" can be better directed (As well as government can).


Disagree. Well funded and expanded unemployment, plus the checks are going to keep a lot of people on time with their bills.

You do not want a surge of delinquency and homelessness.
No further stimulus is needed for unemployment, it already exist and is funded. If that needs revisiting later it could be.


That's good news. Another poster mentioned a second stimulus being focused on small businesses. I could see a need for that as well.
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In reply to thirdcoast • 12:53p, 4/2/20
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thirdcoast said:
It's entertaining watching CNBC explain market movements. They just said the current pull back now, isbecause of a tweet from someone who said Trump was exaggerating on his oil tweet.

CNBC is only useful for on screen ticker and fading the hot takes from Cramer and others.
The Profit, Shark Tank, and the hot Asian chick in the Selling Real Estate show are the only things worth watching
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12:53p, 4/2/20
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I do wonder if the second "stimulus" is actually that infrastructure bill sprinkled with more covid relief help.
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12:53p, 4/2/20
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In reply to Ragoo • 12:55p, 4/2/20
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Squawk Box is good.
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In reply to Barty Dont Hedge • 12:58p, 4/2/20
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Barty said:
IrishTxAggie said:
Barty said:
Irish- Or anyone else that uses Cheddar Flow, what filters do you set and how exactly are you using their information. I got on Cheddar today and it is a bit of data overload for me. Any advice?
Just depends. I typically have mine set to orders over $200K
That is what I ended up setting it at after playing with it for a few hours this morning. Has definitely turned me on the positions I would not have seen otherwise. Now I just hope they work out. LOL
Careful. Can get data overload very quickly even at the $200k mark. I emailed them asking them to add $500k as an option and he said it shouldn't be a problem. I expect it that soon hopefully.
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1:04p, 4/2/20
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Shouted it from every barstool I have. You short the rips in a bear market, especially if its a fake low liquidity tweet pump.

If you are going long in this market, you need a quick trigger on profit taking. Rug pull at any time.
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1:07p, 4/2/20
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What's up w/ PENN today (actually the past few days)?
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1:09p, 4/2/20
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Y'all buying LK here? Haven't touched it yet.
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In reply to YNWA_AG • 1:11p, 4/2/20
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Wanted to buy some calls, but premiums aren't dropping along with the price. I'm still holding off for now with shares or options.
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In reply to YNWA_AG • 1:13p, 4/2/20
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Y'all buying LK here? Haven't touched it yet.
How long does forensic accounting take to learn what their real numbers are?
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In reply to YNWA_AG • 1:17p, 4/2/20
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YNWA_AG said:
Y'all buying LK here? Haven't touched it yet.
it's still in dump mode, I'd wait at this point. I grabbed some at 7.50, but it started dropping again. Model T should still get it to 14 or 15 though.
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In reply to AgEng06 • 1:21p, 4/2/20
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AgEng06 said:
What's up w/ PENN today (actually the past few days)?
Their casinos are still closed and they are highly leveraged.
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In reply to YNWA_AG • 1:32p, 4/2/20
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I bought some at $6.91. Kinda wish I had waited now.
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In reply to claym711 • 1:34p, 4/2/20
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claym711 said:
Shouted it from every barstool I have. You short the rips in a bear market, especially if its a fake low liquidity tweet pump.

If you are going long in this market, you need a quick trigger on profit taking. Rug pull at any time.
algos own the SPY right now. It is trading right inside the fib levels following the 7-8 premarket sell off.
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In reply to YNWA_AG • 1:34p, 4/2/20
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Got in at $4.50.
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1:45p, 4/2/20
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Anyone else selling right now? Ive sold 2/3 myself. Everything just feels a little off . Feels like the spy should be down 5, instead we're up .4% somehow.

Perhaps O&G is artificially pulling things up with the Saudi/Russia news.
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In reply to Pignorant • 1:52p, 4/2/20
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AgEng06 said:
What's up w/ PENN today (actually the past few days)?
Their casinos are still closed and they are highly leveraged.


They spun off their real estate into a separate REIT and "PENN" can fold up and just reappear as a brand new company when the time comes?
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In reply to gig em 02 • 1:59p, 4/2/20
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gig em 02 said:
Pignorant said:
AgEng06 said:
What's up w/ PENN today (actually the past few days)?
Their casinos are still closed and they are highly leveraged.


They spun off their real estate into a separate REIT and "PENN" can fold up and just reappear as a brand new company when the time comes?


Idk those details, I did see the other day they are selling the Tropicana for a loss on their initial purchase price. Yikes
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In reply to gig em 02 • 2:06p, 4/2/20
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Have not seen REIT spinoff news. Do you have a link?
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2:11p, 4/2/20
Can we get a sell-off this afternoon? Asking for a friend who is holding Puts that expire tomorrow.....
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2:13p, 4/2/20
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What the flip is LK doing the last 30 minutes today? Why is $14-15 a number everyone is throwing around even on twitter?
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In reply to AnyOtherName • 2:15p, 4/2/20
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AnyOtherName said:
What the flip is LK doing the last 30 minutes today? Why is $14-15 a number everyone is throwing around even on twitter?
50% retracement
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In reply to khkman22 • 2:16p, 4/2/20
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khkman22 said:
Wanted to buy some calls, but premiums aren't dropping along with the price. I'm still holding off for now with shares or options.
That's potentially a good sign.
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In reply to AnyOtherName • 2:19p, 4/2/20
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AnyOtherName said:
What the flip is LK doing the last 30 minutes today? Why is $14-15 a number everyone is throwing around even on twitter?
Everybody's favorite Model T, goal is to get back to the mid-point in the relative short term
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In reply to AnyOtherName • 2:20p, 4/2/20
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AnyOtherName said:
What the flip is LK doing the last 30 minutes today? Why is $14-15 a number everyone is throwing around even on twitter?
it is still being shorted, so chill. Grab a beer, stay a while. It will rebound today, but I bet it starts tomorrow if not Monday.
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In reply to Brewmaster • 2:30p, 4/2/20
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AnyOtherName said:
What the flip is LK doing the last 30 minutes today? Why is $14-15 a number everyone is throwing around even on twitter?
it is still being shorted, so chill. Grab a beer, stay a while. It will rebound today, but I bet it starts tomorrow if not Monday.


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In reply to GreasenUSA • 2:31p, 4/2/20
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GreasenUSA said:
khkman22 said:
Wanted to buy some calls, but premiums aren't dropping along with the price. I'm still holding off for now with shares or options.
That's potentially a good sign to find a sucker.
FIFY if I were to enter.
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2:34p, 4/2/20
Uhhhh some dude just paid a 2.2 million premium for Jun 16 Spy puts at 125 strike
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In reply to Exsurge Domine • 2:37p, 4/2/20
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Exsurge Domine said:
Uhhhh some dude just paid a 2.2 million premium for Jun 16 Spy puts at 125 strike
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