nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
I'm sure it makes it more difficult to get what you want the further down the gpa roster you are.Comeby! said:nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
I have a son studying engineering at A&M and he wants no part of PETE. Mechanical is a no-go unless you have a 3.8GPA due to ETAM. ETAM has really F'ed the college of engineering IMO.
Boat Shoes said:
What is ETAM?
I will take a minute to defend A&M's actions within the college (something I rarely do). The first year sorority selection process has accomplished three things:Comeby! said:nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
I have a son studying engineering at A&M and he wants no part of PETE. Mechanical is a no-go unless you have a 3.8GPA due to ETAM. ETAM has really F'ed the college of engineering IMO.
I would do electrical and focus on "large scale" electrical. Think power grids, generation, distribution, etc. I thought that all electrical was little electronic devices. I didn't learn until later that a lot of the field is big, heavy industry stuff.nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
nosoupforyou said:
My son just finished his freshman year and the consensus from talking to many people is to go mechanical, which is more broad and still works great within the oil & gas industry
The problem is that it's very difficult to get in, so does he choose petroleum or just settle on civil?
It's unfortunate because that likely will have an impact on the industry down the road
We have electrical engineers on the subsea side. Yes mainly in controls for components above and below water and power supply. And we have 4-5 mechanical engineers for every 1 electrical, but we need them. I cringe every time I have to update an electrical schematic.AgLA06 said:Looking at it from mostly a subsea perspective, I'm not sure how that would help. Maybe it does more in surface.BrokeAssAggie said:
What about chemical, civil or electrical? Are those harder to get into? He could go that route and still go after a position in the O&G industry but also opens the door to a lot of other options should O&G not workout.
Civil wouldn't really apply much other than site prep / design or maybe landman roles. Maybe there's more options in midstream facilities.
Chemical, I know it would apply, but would seem limited to fluids, chemicals and maybe seals.
Electrical would generally be limited to controls or facility design / maintenance.
Mechanical gets mentioned because it allows for a role in just about any OEM or large producer engineering roles as well as moving over to the PM side of things. It seems to be as versatile in O&G as Civil is in construction and development.
Petroleum should pay better, but you're limited to an actual producer company where Mechanical applies to just about any company what produces something or provides service in O&G in general.
AgLA06 said:Looking at it from mostly a subsea perspective, I'm not sure how that would help. Maybe it does more in surface.BrokeAssAggie said:
What about chemical, civil or electrical? Are those harder to get into? He could go that route and still go after a position in the O&G industry but also opens the door to a lot of other options should O&G not workout.
Civil wouldn't really apply much other than site prep / design or maybe landman roles. Maybe there's more options in midstream facilities.
Chemical, I know it would apply, but would seem limited to fluids, chemicals and maybe seals.
Electrical would generally be limited to controls or facility design / maintenance.
Mechanical gets mentioned because it allows for a role in just about any OEM or large producer engineering roles as well as moving over to the PM side of things. It seems to be as versatile in O&G as Civil is in construction and development.
Petroleum should pay better, but you're limited to an actual producer company where Mechanical applies to just about any company what produces something or provides service in O&G in general.
Ragoo said:
IMO Chemical is equally diverse as mechanical, maybe more so.
I am bias as I have a chemical engineering degree and I have worked the entire life cycle of capital projects.
agreed. To make the real money you have to get close to the money.Dirty Mike and the Boys said:
I think I'd ultimately agree in that chem e is a good choice overall, but I can't help but emphasize that anyone who wants to make the true big money needs to have a finance background. I guess that's what MBA's are for, but business minors could go a long way.
If you aren't going to go into upstream O&G then definitely do not do Petroleum Engineering.nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
there are probably a dozen field engineering or similar open roles with operators in the Permian today.nosoupforyou said:
Excellent advice
What's the title of this role that you need to do for 5 years?
Assuming you should work for an Operator?
nosoupforyou said:
Sorry for all the back-and-forth - but this is very helpful
Would this lead you to a drilling engineer role primarily in the office, followed by an opportunity to be VP of Drilling and Completions? That seems to be a super role to aim for
nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
fixer said:If you aren't going to go into upstream O&G then definitely do not do Petroleum Engineering.nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
What the oilfield needs isn't always what they are hiring for.
I work in upstream O&G. Most of my time is working in plants and facilities doing projects for upgrades and solving facilities equipment problems, primarily rotating equipment. I've done a few long rotations in production operations as well.
I originally wanted to go into the auto industry. I found a niche role in the O&G industry that fit nicely, paid better, and didn't have to live in Detroit.
From my perspective what the industry needs is to be hiring more electrical and controls engineering talent. But they are still hiring Mechanical, Chemical, Petroleum engineers in a 10:1 ratio.
80% of the problems I face daily, weekly, monthly, yearly are automation and controls issues. 20% are true mechanical issues related to design, operation, or maintenance, and most of those are operation and maintenance. This is just on a specific machine or skid. The process control is a whole other issue.
Between mechanical engineers and chemical engineers we can get the problems solved but it is more cumbersome than it should be.
A set of controls and/or electrical engineers that knew the process and how the machines worked could write their own check.
And also the electrical distribution side of things is a growing role also. 3 phase electrical systems that are in the megawatt range are way short on serious technical talent.
I also think industrial distribution is or could be a tremendous opportunity. They way O&G operations run their business (in the upstream side at least) would make McDonalds look like an F1 pit crew.
Hiring managers aren't thinking about these issues. So they are hiring the same three typical disciplines of engineering typically used in O&G.
Is that enough for Tell to survive and get their terminal built??gigem1223 said:
Aethon buying Tellurian
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aethon-energy-acquire-tellurian-integrated-110000983.html
fixer said:nosoupforyou said:
If your son or daughter was in the engineering program at Texas A&M… Would you recommend they go into petroleum engineering?
Sure everyone wants to suggest mechanical but if you don't get into it, do you think that's a safe degree anymore?
What the oilfield needs isn't always what they are hiring for.
From my perspective what the industry needs is to be hiring more electrical and controls engineering talent. But they are still hiring Mechanical, Chemical, Petroleum engineers in a 10:1 ratio.
80% of the problems I face daily, weekly, monthly, yearly are automation and controls issues. 20% are true mechanical issues related to design, operation, or maintenance, and most of those are operation and maintenance. This is just on a specific machine or skid. The process control is a whole other issue.
Between mechanical engineers and chemical engineers we can get the problems solved but it is more cumbersome than it should be.
A set of controls and/or electrical engineers that knew the process and how the machines worked could write their own check.
And also the electrical distribution side of things is a growing role also. 3 phase electrical systems that are in the megawatt range are way short on serious technical talent.
