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topher06
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In reply to mts6175 • 9:08p, 12/8/20
I mean if it was knowingly done, this should result in criminal penalties. No excuse to openly lie on permits at the expense of one of the most important industries in America that is already a ready target for environment activists. This gives those people justification.

I'm sure you don't want to break the news, but is there any public article you can link here?
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9:28p, 12/8/20
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Opening my LinkedIn account is depressing these days. To everyone laid off, hang in there, I wish you the best. Pray for demand. Pray for a smart incoming administration.
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9:28p, 12/8/20
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One out of two atleast
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In reply to Drillbit4 • 10:06p, 12/8/20
Pray for mgmt teams with incentives to not over drill for the sake of production growth
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In reply to mts6175 • 10:41p, 12/8/20
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mts6175 said:
one MEEN Ag said:
mts6175 said:
CaptTex said:
Was just over on the West Texas forum and checked in on the earthquake thread there, do these occurrences damage wells in any way or has anyone heard of something like this?
They can, but would be impossible to track. There have been instances where over time formation shifts underground will part casing on an O/G well, but it's hard to prove that would be from an earthquake.

I'd argue most of the seismic activity in the Midland Basin is the result of some bad decisions by certain SWD companies (purposely injecting in the Cambrian, not plugging back like they are supposed to, 80k BPD rates, etc....)
Mind expanding a little more about the bad actors? What are the issues with injecting in the cambrian?
Typically the Ellenberger is the formation that is used for injection in the deep wells in the Midland Basin. The Cambrian sits below the Ellenberger and is an unstable formation, basically the same as the Arbuckle in Oklahoma. You are supposed to plug your injection wells 100' above the base of the Ellenberger per RRC rule. There are a few companies that have drilled into the Cambrian and not plugged back to get the injection rates higher.....


Who exactly are you accusing of doing this? The only 80kbpd permits I've seen in the midland basin have been E&P companies.
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In reply to Goose06 • 10:50p, 12/8/20
You know he isn't going to accuse anyone on this board. If it is happening, and I'm talking about injecting into a seismically active formation without a permit not just injecting that volume, there are going to be heads rolling soon.
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In reply to topher06 • 11:22p, 12/8/20
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topher06 said:
You know he isn't going to accuse anyone on this board. If it is happening, and I'm talking about injecting into a seismically active formation without a permit not just injecting that volume, there are going to be heads rolling soon.
Nobody's "heads are going to roll". Hell the RRC is aware of a lot of these wells already and has done nothing about it. They are part of the problem. They are already calling E&P and 3rd party SWD owners requesting their downhole logs (I just got a call from a colleague from a midstream company about it tonight). They are going to end up telling SWD owners to plug back shallower, reduce their injection rates, or plug their wells. It will be financial implications through regulation, not criminal.
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In reply to mts6175 • 7:09a, 12/9/20
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mts6175 said:
topher06 said:
You know he isn't going to accuse anyone on this board. If it is happening, and I'm talking about injecting into a seismically active formation without a permit not just injecting that volume, there are going to be heads rolling soon.
Nobody's "heads are going to roll". Hell the RRC is aware of a lot of these wells already and has done nothing about it. They are part of the problem. They are already calling E&P and 3rd party SWD owners requesting their downhole logs (I just got a call from a colleague from a midstream company about it tonight). They are going to end up telling SWD owners to plug back shallower, reduce their injection rates, or plug their wells. It will be financial implications through regulation, not criminal.


To be clear, you are not suggesting anyone is completing their wells outside of their permitted injection interval are you? Just that the RRC in the past allowed permits to the basement and now they are carving back on that, right?
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In reply to mts6175 • 7:42a, 12/9/20
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mts6175 said:
topher06 said:
You know he isn't going to accuse anyone on this board. If it is happening, and I'm talking about injecting into a seismically active formation without a permit not just injecting that volume, there are going to be heads rolling soon.
Nobody's "heads are going to roll". Hell the RRC is aware of a lot of these wells already and has done nothing about it. They are part of the problem. They are already calling E&P and 3rd party SWD owners requesting their downhole logs (I just got a call from a colleague from a midstream company about it tonight). They are going to end up telling SWD owners to plug back shallower, reduce their injection rates, or plug their wells. It will be financial implications through regulation, not criminal.


Just wait until half of the stripper operators can't afford to do any of that and we continue to drive up the orphan well count in the state and now the RRC had a real problem.

No bond or guarantee posted will cover the cost to plug that old SWD from 1965 that has casing that is blown to swiss cheese and corroded to hell.

RRC is staring down the barrel of a big problem if they can't get this under control.
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In reply to DripAG08 • 7:46a, 12/9/20
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AustinAg008 said:
mts6175 said:
topher06 said:
You know he isn't going to accuse anyone on this board. If it is happening, and I'm talking about injecting into a seismically active formation without a permit not just injecting that volume, there are going to be heads rolling soon.
Nobody's "heads are going to roll". Hell the RRC is aware of a lot of these wells already and has done nothing about it. They are part of the problem. They are already calling E&P and 3rd party SWD owners requesting their downhole logs (I just got a call from a colleague from a midstream company about it tonight). They are going to end up telling SWD owners to plug back shallower, reduce their injection rates, or plug their wells. It will be financial implications through regulation, not criminal.


Just wait until half of the stripper operators can't afford to do any of that and we continue to drive up the orphan well count in the state and now the RRC had a real problem.

No bond or guarantee posted will cover the cost to plug that old SWD from 1965 that has casing that is blown to swiss cheese and corroded to hell.

RRC is staring down the barrel of a big problem if they can't get this under control.


Anyone know the orphan we'll count as of now? It's in the thousands if not tens of thousands, right?
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In reply to Boat Shoes • 7:57a, 12/9/20
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My guess is its somewhere close to 7,500-10,000.
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In reply to DripAG08 • 8:01a, 12/9/20
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AustinAg008 said:
My guess is its somewhere close to 7,500-10,000.


Years ago while BSing a field inspector he threw out a 6,000 well number. I couldn't recall if that was his district (East TX) or statewide. I had assumed his district, which likely has some of the oldest wells out there.
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10:29a, 12/9/20
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Wow, EIA reports 15 million BBL build in crude stocks. Expected a build based on the lack of demand for Thanksgiving travel but 15 is really eye opening.
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In reply to DripAG08 • 10:55a, 12/9/20
Saudi dump, look at the increase in imports per day. Should normalize out imo.
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In reply to DripAG08 • 3:45p, 12/9/20
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AustinAg008 said:



Just wait until half of the stripper operators can't afford to do any of that and we continue to drive up the orphan well count in the state and now the RRC had a real problem.

No bond or guarantee posted will cover the cost to plug that old SWD from 1965 that has casing that is blown to swiss cheese and corroded to hell.

RRC is staring down the barrel of a big problem if they can't get this under control.
You mean wells that are out of compliance already that should have been fixed years ago have to be corrected or shut in? The blasphemy......
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9:40p, 12/9/20
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**** let's get a cement crew together and start biddin these wells, pitch it as "environmentally friendly remediation". I bet theres some cheap equipment out there atm, depressing as **** seeing all the auctions going on.
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In reply to CaptTex • 1:14a, 12/10/20
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I do think a money maker will be a plugging company, especially if you can turnkey it.
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In reply to Comeby! • 5:19a, 12/10/20
Comeby! said:
I do think a money maker will be a plugging company, especially if you can turnkey it.


I've been thinking about this since 2016. I'll do engineering work and have some solid company men to run field ops. Who wants to front the capital? Need someone connected with RRC to get to the top of their approved vendor list.
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 6:41a, 12/10/20
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I'm can do site reclamation/environmental and NORM. I also know the RRC engineer that works in the orphan well program pretty well and am good friends with one of the three commissioners.
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8:52a, 12/10/20
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Brent back to $50.00

Weeeeeee're baaaaaaack!!

Bring on the boats and trucks for XMas....
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9:35a, 12/10/20
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We'll call it 12th Well Cementing Company. I can see it now, maroon cement rigs and coveralls with white reflective bands. Then once we plug all the wells, we can turn right around and punch a bunch of new ones. Its such easy money what could go wrong?
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In reply to CaptTex • 9:57a, 12/10/20
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CaptTex said:
We'll call it 12th Well Cementing Company. I can see it now, maroon cement rigs and coveralls with white reflective bands. Then once we plug all the wells, we can turn right around and punch a bunch of new ones. Its such easy money what could go wrong?


Plugging wells is good for the environment so we've got the ESG covered.
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10:50a, 12/10/20
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There are already one stop plugging companies in the Permian. They're mostly shoestring operations. If you want to get rich in the service business, plugging is one of the last places I would look.
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In reply to TxAg20 • 11:30a, 12/10/20
Anyone wanting to get rich quick on the service side usually gets burned. I just want an honest days pay and steady stream of work. What's more certain than shale wells going uneconomic and needing to be plugged?
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 12:29p, 12/10/20
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Skillet Shot said:
Anyone wanting to get rich quick on the service side usually gets burned. I just want an honest days pay and steady stream of work. What's more certain than shale wells going uneconomic and needing to be plugged?

F' it I'm in. It's been awhile since I've clicked my way through SLB's CemCAT but at least I wouldn't have to get hoisted up by someone on jacked up on Rockstar and, who knows what else (scary to think that I trusted them with my life), stab a 9 5/8" cement
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In reply to jaggiemaggie • 1:01p, 12/10/20
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With the landing joint connected 8 feet above the rig floor. May as well be in the crows nest stabbing the head. Forget a rig hand hopped up on Rockstar, how about one that looks like he hasn't slept in three days on the hoist controls?

Company man: yeah, we could have landed on the floor, we'll circulate it down and you'll be dropping the plug from the ground.

Company man (1 hour later): Well, that's as close as we can get it. (They've gone backwards and now the landing joint is connected 12 feet above the rig floor.)

It was actually easier to stan a head in the air bu yourself than it was on a ladder with "help."
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In reply to Fuzzy Dunlop • 1:19p, 12/10/20
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One awesome thing for me when the cement head was less about 6 ft from the floor was that one of my EOs was none other than Rudy Woods (RIP). He could just hand me the hammer and top plug while I was sitting on top of the cement head.
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In reply to The Original AG 76 • 2:20p, 12/10/20
I work for a Fortune 500 O&G company based in Houston. We had layoffs that mainly affected admin and management type roles in the offices.

Some of them were offered a job in ops roles in various plants across the channel but most turned them down. Apparently moving to shift work and having to work nights was out of the question for them. With OT most of them would be making even more than they did sitting in the office. Many of them without kids but still turned down the position offers.

Sad to see those in today's society who get comfortable with office type work. Jobs are never guaranteed and sometimes you have to *gasp* sweat and work hard to get that paycheck. I reckon after a few months of unemployment several of them will be regretting that decision to leave the company.
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2:23p, 12/10/20
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Sounds like those companymen were lazy or sucked at excel. With a threads off casing strap, I could always land within a few feet of the rig floor. I shot for 2' above KB and was never more than a couple feet off. I had to send guys up with a swage for washing down plenty of times, but no one had to go up to mess with a cement head.
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In reply to hlfarmsag • 2:35p, 12/10/20
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hlfarmsag said:
I work for a Fortune 500 O&G company based in Houston. We had layoffs that mainly affected admin and management type roles in the offices.

Some of them were offered a job in ops roles in various plants across the channel but most turned them down. Apparently moving to shift work and having to work nights was out of the question for them. With OT most of them would be making even more than they did sitting in the office. Many of them without kids but still turned down the position offers.

Sad to see those in today's society who get comfortable with office type work. Jobs are never guaranteed and sometimes you have to *gasp* sweat and work hard to get that paycheck. I reckon after a few months of unemployment several of them will be regretting that decision to leave the company.

Any chance you guys will be hiring for those ops role? I'm currently looking to get back on my feet.
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In reply to Skillet Shot • 6:53p, 12/10/20
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Skillet Shot said:
Anyone wanting to get rich quick on the service side usually gets burned. I just want an honest days pay and steady stream of work. What's more certain than shale wells going uneconomic and needing to be plugged?

Operating companies deciding to kick the can down the road and not plug those wells when that time comes?
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In reply to CaptTex • 9:59p, 12/10/20
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CaptTex said:
We'll call it 12th Well Cementing Company. I can see it now, maroon cement rigs and coveralls with white reflective bands. Then once we plug all the wells, we can turn right around and punch a bunch of new ones. Its such easy money what could go wrong?
Another successful Texags hookup.
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In reply to techno-ag • 8:39a, 12/11/20
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Make hay while the sun shines, they wanna talk green and throw money around we need to get our piece.
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In reply to hlfarmsag • 1:23p, 12/11/20
hlfarmsag said:
I work for a Fortune 500 O&G company based in Houston. We had layoffs that mainly affected admin and management type roles in the offices.

Some of them were offered a job in ops roles in various plants across the channel but most turned them down. Apparently moving to shift work and having to work nights was out of the question for them. With OT most of them would be making even more than they did sitting in the office. Many of them without kids but still turned down the position offers.

Sad to see those in today's society who get comfortable with office type work. Jobs are never guaranteed and sometimes you have to *gasp* sweat and work hard to get that paycheck. I reckon after a few months of unemployment several of them will be regretting that decision to leave the company.
Probably my lack of knowledge of that type of work but would someone who was an admin be any good at those types of roles?
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1:56p, 12/11/20
Has Parsley started layoffs?
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