TRM said:
Paredes & Jake for Skenes and Bart.
Skenes and Ms Dunne. I'll call it even.
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Skenes and Ms Dunne. I'll call it even.
txags92 said:EastCoastAgNc said:MaxPower said:
If they aren't moving Duran or Abreu the Mayer is the only one that I'm mildly interested in.
No clue who the Pirates have to offer. Barco is an interesting arm but not really a need and they don't have any big league ready bats. If they offer Barco and say Esmerlyn Valdez then it may be one of those too much value to pass up scenarios.
One of the options they brought up was Parades and Jake for Duran.
Feels like an overpay to me.
If you trade parades for one of Boston's outfielders, you now kinda have to clear an outfield spot too, so that's why they floated the idea
That's a lot of pressure to put on Zach Cole.
EastCoastAgNc said:txags92 said:EastCoastAgNc said:MaxPower said:
If they aren't moving Duran or Abreu the Mayer is the only one that I'm mildly interested in.
No clue who the Pirates have to offer. Barco is an interesting arm but not really a need and they don't have any big league ready bats. If they offer Barco and say Esmerlyn Valdez then it may be one of those too much value to pass up scenarios.
One of the options they brought up was Parades and Jake for Duran.
Feels like an overpay to me.
If you trade parades for one of Boston's outfielders, you now kinda have to clear an outfield spot too, so that's why they floated the idea
I just hate the idea of trading two good bats for only one from an offense that struggled mightily last season.
txags92 said:EastCoastAgNc said:txags92 said:EastCoastAgNc said:MaxPower said:
If they aren't moving Duran or Abreu the Mayer is the only one that I'm mildly interested in.
No clue who the Pirates have to offer. Barco is an interesting arm but not really a need and they don't have any big league ready bats. If they offer Barco and say Esmerlyn Valdez then it may be one of those too much value to pass up scenarios.
One of the options they brought up was Parades and Jake for Duran.
Feels like an overpay to me.
If you trade parades for one of Boston's outfielders, you now kinda have to clear an outfield spot too, so that's why they floated the idea
I just hate the idea of trading two good bats for only one from an offense that struggled mightily last season.
I hear you, but don't forget Chas's decline. I think the Astros might want to strike while the opportunity is there to get value for Jake. Would be interesting to see what the trade value thing says about the exchange
I guess one possibility is Cam is n CF. His range and sprint by speed indicate he might be average there and there wouldn't be as much pressure on his bat there.
MaxPower said:
I guess one possibility is Cam is n CF. His range and sprint by speed indicate he might be average there and there wouldn't be as much pressure on his bat there.
If we get durran, doesn't he play center?
Dana is smart.... we aren't going to trade parades just to trade him. the return better be substantial and instant impact in the OF Otherwise get ****ed
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You guys really really underestimate Duran.
3rd Coast said:
You guys really really underestimate Duran.
His stats don't show him as a huge upgrade over Paredes. From 2023-2025, Paredes has significantly more HR, significantly more BB, way fewer strikeouts, and their OPS+ are nearly the same (121 vs 123). You can make an argument Duran is better, but I don't think the difference is enough that we should be giving up one of the top defensive CF in the league and a proven MLB bat like Meyers to sweeten the deal.
txags92 said:3rd Coast said:
You guys really really underestimate Duran.
His stats don't show him as a huge upgrade over Paredes. From 2023-2025, Paredes has significantly more HR, significantly more BB, way fewer strikeouts, and their OPS+ are nearly the same (121 vs 123). You can make an argument Duran is better, but I don't think the difference is enough that we should be giving up one of the top defensive CF in the league and a proven MLB bat like Meyers to sweeten the deal.
Plus Paredes works pitch counts, that doesn't show up in the stat line.
He wears other pitchers down. We don't need another high K guy that lacks power and doesn't work counts
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
Also, Durran doesn't have ticking time bombs for soft tissue
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astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
You're confusing power with speed. Homer difference is closer to 15+ if healthy
EastCoastAgNc said:astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
Also, Durran doesn't have ticking time bombs for soft tissue
Just mental health issues. Guy almost killed himself after a slump
AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
Also, Durran doesn't have ticking time bombs for soft tissue
Just mental health issues. Guy almost killed himself after a slump
That's just a desire to be great
astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
Homers are the only hit in baseball guaranteed to generate at least 1 run.
15 triples for the Astros probably means getting stranded on third 12 times.
AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:astros4545 said:
Duran has as much or more effective power than Paredes
15 triples per year vs 0
40 doubles per year vs 25
At the expense of 10 homers?
Also, Durran doesn't have ticking time bombs for soft tissue
Just mental health issues. Guy almost killed himself after a slump
I'm starting to favor an overpay to get a trade done just so we can move onto a different topic.
The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
EastCoastAgNc said:The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
Would have been a terrible trade if it was just a Paredes for Donovan swap.
Wow. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Pitchers and catchers report soon. Rocked the stros jersey on Copper today.
lol I did same at steamboat
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
Would have been a terrible trade if it was just a Paredes for Donovan swap.
Wow. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Why would that be terrible? Donny is a good player and fits what we need.
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Here hoping Bob isn't a part of this
Anybody else checking out the WBC at Daikin?
I'm going to USA vs Italy
I'm going to USA vs Italy
Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
Would have been a terrible trade if it was just a Paredes for Donovan swap.
Wow. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Why would that be terrible? Donny is a good player and fits what we need.
No power in a power-limited lineup.
Sure, he hits from the left side, plays 2B. He does have a low strikeout rate and hits for average. But the OPS is likely quite a bit less than what Parades is capable of. Parades is tailor made for Daikin Park, so must be taken into account when any prospective trade hypotheticals are made.
We're talking about 30+ HR potential vs. basically 10-ish.
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AggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
Would have been a terrible trade if it was just a Paredes for Donovan swap.
Wow. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Why would that be terrible? Donny is a good player and fits what we need.
No power in a power-limited lineup.
Sure, he hits from the left side, plays 2B. He does have a low strikeout rate and hits for average. But the OPS is likely quite a bit less than what Parades is capable of. Parades is tailor made for Daikin Park, so must be taken into account when any prospective trade hypotheticals are made.
We're talking about 30+ HR potential vs. basically 10-ish.
Why do you assume a boost for Paredes and not Donny? Donny has 40 the last 4 seasons and savant shows him at an expected 62 the icebox. Hes got weird oppo Crawford shot power.
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Here hoping Bob isn't a part of this
Can we get Joe Garagiola in the booth?
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Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:AggiEE said:EastCoastAgNc said:The Astros remain engaged with the Red Sox and at least four other teams about Isaac Paredes, sources tell @TheAthletic. One of them is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Houston's first workout for pitchers and catchers is on Wednesday - https://t.co/BBMtZvZJ85
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) February 8, 2026
Would have been a terrible trade if it was just a Paredes for Donovan swap.
Wow. Glad we dodged that bullet.
Why would that be terrible? Donny is a good player and fits what we need.
No power in a power-limited lineup.
Sure, he hits from the left side, plays 2B. He does have a low strikeout rate and hits for average. But the OPS is likely quite a bit less than what Parades is capable of. Parades is tailor made for Daikin Park, so must be taken into account when any prospective trade hypotheticals are made.
We're talking about 30+ HR potential vs. basically 10-ish.
Why do you assume a boost for Paredes and not Donny? Donny has 40 the last 4 seasons and savant shows him at an expected 62 the icebox. Hes got weird oppo Crawford shot power.
That's still a marked decline from Paredes expectations
And unlike Duran or Abreu, you get no extra years of control. As much as I don't like trading 1:1 for those players either, they are way better than a 1:1 for Donovan
I find it interesting that we couldn't or didn't want to come up with steep price they wanted for Donovan, but you are saying he wasn't worth as much as Paredes 1-1. Yet people seem to think we should be giving up Paredes plus another MLB level player like Meyer or Arighetti and/or a prospect in return for one player from Boston who isn't that much better than Paredes statistically. I would rather just ride with Paredes at this point if we are going to have to give up so much with him to get back just one player.
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tjack16 said:
Anybody else checking out the WBC at Daikin?
I'm going to USA vs Italy
Not at Daikin, but we're going to Spring Training during Spring Break, so we decided to check out a couple WBC games in Miami. We're going to DR vs Israel and Venezuela vs Nicaragua.
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