***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:03p, 1/9/25
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Only Framber and Murfree are outstanding
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:32p, 1/9/25
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The Porkchop Express said:
Who are the actual arbitors in a player/club arbitration? I'd like to think of them as looking like the Time Keepers from Loki.





They use retired judges
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:22p, 1/9/25
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Farmer1906 said:
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For me, the real takeaway from this list is how much i still hate Will Clark
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In reply to n_touch • 5:33p, 1/9/25
Let's add an incentive clause to his contract:

If he lays off a slider & takes a walk, he gets $1K.

If he strikes out a slider, he pays $1K.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 6:43p, 1/9/25
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EastCoastAgNc said:
What does that leave in terms of tax threshold?
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6:48p, 1/9/25
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I'm dreaming, but make it happen Dana…Framber, Presley, Meyers, and Melton for Vlad Jr and Manoah all contingent on Framber and Vlad Jr signing extensions with their new teams. Salaries are close. Vlad Jr extension would kick in after Montero and Abreu are off the books at the end of 2025. I believe Click loved him some Meyers while here and drafted Melton. I've read Toronto front office values pitching and defense over hitting so this would fit that philosophy. I also believe the Astros pitching lab could fix Manoah and get him back to where he was before. We then slide Vlad Jr in at 3B and use Parades like Ketch said we would have if Bregman re-signed here.
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In reply to redline248 • 6:48p, 1/9/25
Fangraphs has us right at $244M, which is $3M over.
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6:52p, 1/9/25
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9 min left. Looks like Tucker is going to a hearing unless the Cubs cave.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 6:53p, 1/9/25
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Farmer1906 said:
All timer

For me, the real takeaway from this list is how much i still hate Will Clark


1) Alvarez is awesome and under-appreciated
2 how can you hate The Thrill? He was an awesome player and has great stories.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBhY6e6goy2/?igsh=Nng3amV3d29hemo0
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In reply to MaxPower • 6:54p, 1/9/25
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Fangraphs: $243,863,334
Cot's: $241,967,334

We're just barely over. We need to shed around ~8 M to 1. Get under 2. Stay under with minor moves thru the year. And big deadline get would likely push us over.
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In reply to TarponChaser • 6:58p, 1/9/25
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TarponChaser said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Farmer1906 said:
All timer

For me, the real takeaway from this list is how much i still hate Will Clark


1) Alvarez is awesome and under-appreciated
2 how can you hate The Thrill? He was an awesome player and has great stories.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBhY6e6goy2/?igsh=Nng3amV3d29hemo0
He played for the Giants and was an *******.

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:14p, 1/9/25
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Fangraphs: $243,863,334
Cot's: $241,967,334

We're just barely over. We need to shed around ~8 M to 1. Get under 2. Stay under with minor moves thru the year. And big deadline get would likely push us over.



Looks like Caratini is gone
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:24p, 1/9/25
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Farmer1906 said:


9 min left. Looks like Tucker is going to a hearing unless the Cubs cave.

Cubs are gonna mess around and rent Tucker for 1 season
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:32p, 1/9/25
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Farmer1906 said:


9 min left. Looks like Tucker is going to a hearing unless the Cubs cave.


This is so dumb. He didn't play for the Cubs last year but the Cubs have to argue against him in arbitration.

"Hey Kyle. Welcome to the North side. We are so happy you are a Cubby. Let us tell you how bad you suck and don't deserve any extra money."
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7:33p, 1/9/25
Tucker playing hardball everywhere he goes

Dude is lowkey really after that paper
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In reply to AggiEE • 7:44p, 1/9/25
AggiEE said:
Tucker playing hardball everywhere he goes

Dude is lowkey really after that paper


Nothing low key about it.
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8:11p, 1/9/25
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Tucker loves his money. He's already told Chicago he has no interest even discussing an extension.
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8:17p, 1/9/25
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Well, I liked Tucker, but I'm glad we aren't dealing with that stuff
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 8:18p, 1/9/25
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texasaggie2015 said:
Tucker loves his money. He's already told Chicago he has no interest even discussing an extension.
As much as I liked him playing RF, I'm kind of glad we don't have to deal with that clown show at the end of next season. Dana made a really good deal.
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9:14p, 1/9/25
Weird that he wouldn't entertain an extension.

If the cubs offer 400M+ you gonna say no?

A lot can happen in 1 year. He could have a bad injury. He could have a really poor/cold year.

I get "betting on yourself" but the amount of greed seems to really cloud the judgment of some players, not realizing the risks involved in this sport.

Same goes for Bregman too on a smaller scale.
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I wonder if the cubs were pissed that he wouldn't entertain extension talks and said **** it, well drag this thing out just cuz….

I think Tucker wins that case…
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9:20p, 1/9/25
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Either way this Tucker/Cubs relationship is off to quite the rocky start.

I'm thinking we dodged a HUGE bullet and got GREAT value out of Tucker.
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Good on Astros avoiding hearings. Had Framber gone in there I don't think he could've handled them saying mean things about him.
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Seems very on brand for Tucker. Grateful we got a solid haul for him. He's going to make it very difficult for me to support him going forward.
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11:00p, 1/9/25
I enjoyed having Tucker here, but for him it is just a job that pays really well that he does good at. (At least seems, I dont know the guy). He will play where the money is best, make his money and then go do something else. I can understand that all day long and actually respect it. Everyone knew the last couple years he would not stay here.

The ones that sting are the ones that get engrained into the city and you think they are going to be here for the long haul and bounce for a couple extra mil.
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In reply to n_touch • 11:22p, 1/9/25
n_touch said:
I enjoyed having Tucker here, but for him it is just a job that pays really well that he does good at. (At least seems, I dont know the guy). He will play where the money is best, make his money and then go do something else. I can understand that all day long and actually respect it. Everyone knew the last couple years he would not stay here.

The ones that sting are the ones that get engrained into the city and you think they are going to be here for the long haul and bounce for a couple extra mil.


Definitely. Bregman

Altuve is a special player that doesn't put money above everything else. I wish he could have talked sense to his boy.

Oh well. For some reason I get vibes that Alvarez is a lot like Altuve and seems to want to stay here without demanding the absolute best offer
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Your read on Yordan is spot on from what I've heard. Haven't met him but from what I've heard he's one of the nicest guys in baseball and he values living in a place where he's comfortable over crazy amounts of money.. hence the team friendly deal he signed.
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