***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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He doesn't deserve anything near that. What a moron
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I wish we had room for him, do not want him on the Yankees
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1 tool player.
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Farmer1906 said:

1 tool player.
We could use that tool.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:

1 tool player.
We could use that tool.


His WAR in the last 4 years is less than Pena in his 3 seasons. Bad base runner. Bad defense. Great at getting on base, but no pop. Not good enough at the plate to DH full time. Could work at 1B, but he's a huge step down from a Walker type.

There is a reason why the Twins & Marlins sold high and the Padres are trying to move him now.
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I hope he goes to the Yankees! It would make them worse!
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I had forgotten about the Prince Fielder mega-contract

throw it on the piie -- another disaster
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W said:

I had forgotten about the Prince Fielder mega-contract

throw it on the piie -- another disaster
Boras using the Fielder contract as a comparison is very non-self aware. That is regarded as one of the worst contracts ever.
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The next Maton?
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With Kyle Tucker gone, Yordan Alvarez is the only outfielder who was an above-average stick in Houston last season. Jake Meyers is a plus-plus defender, so he's fine. That third spot is a sticky wicket for a team projected to be just outside the top five in the game. With manager Joe Espada saying he'd like to cut down on Alvarez's time on the grass, maybe that's two sticky wickets. Currently, the top of those depth charts list Taylor Trammell, Mauricio Dubn, Chas McCormick and Pedro Len. Last year, that group combined to hit .234/.279/.312 with scratch defense in the major leagues.

McCormick is projected to bounce back and could be useful against right-handers even without a full recovery. Len hits the ball super hard he had a 117.5 MPH max exit velocity in Triple A last year, which would've been in the top five in the big leagues, equal to Aaron Judge and runs well, so he's a wild card. Dubn profiles as a super utility guy.

This group could use more of a sure thing. Maybe calling the Giants and asking about Mike Yastrzemski would make sense. As a lefty, he could fit into a platoon with one of the righties, reducing the Astros' dependence on two iffy right-handed bats to step forward and take the job. Of course, that would ensure that the Astros were north of the first luxury tax apron, and if that's the case … they might as well sign a free agent at that point, right?

Also mentions the Red Sox need a catcher. What about sending Presley and Victor to them for Wilyer?
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You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.
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Speaking of framber, do you know if they're still getting any offers for him or if they are even asking around?
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EastCoastAgNc said:


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With Kyle Tucker gone, Yordan Alvarez is the only outfielder who was an above-average stick in Houston last season. Jake Meyers is a plus-plus defender, so he's fine. That third spot is a sticky wicket for a team projected to be just outside the top five in the game. With manager Joe Espada saying he'd like to cut down on Alvarez's time on the grass, maybe that's two sticky wickets. Currently, the top of those depth charts list Taylor Trammell, Mauricio Dubn, Chas McCormick and Pedro Len. Last year, that group combined to hit .234/.279/.312 with scratch defense in the major leagues.

McCormick is projected to bounce back and could be useful against right-handers even without a full recovery. Len hits the ball super hard he had a 117.5 MPH max exit velocity in Triple A last year, which would've been in the top five in the big leagues, equal to Aaron Judge and runs well, so he's a wild card. Dubn profiles as a super utility guy.

This group could use more of a sure thing. Maybe calling the Giants and asking about Mike Yastrzemski would make sense. As a lefty, he could fit into a platoon with one of the righties, reducing the Astros' dependence on two iffy right-handed bats to step forward and take the job. Of course, that would ensure that the Astros were north of the first luxury tax apron, and if that's the case … they might as well sign a free agent at that point, right?

Also mentions the Red Sox need a catcher. What about sending Presley and Victor to them for Wilyer?


Would you take guys like Pressly & Caratini for Yainer?
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They aren't trading him unless something drastic changes.
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Farmer1906 said:

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With Kyle Tucker gone, Yordan Alvarez is the only outfielder who was an above-average stick in Houston last season. Jake Meyers is a plus-plus defender, so he's fine. That third spot is a sticky wicket for a team projected to be just outside the top five in the game. With manager Joe Espada saying he'd like to cut down on Alvarez's time on the grass, maybe that's two sticky wickets. Currently, the top of those depth charts list Taylor Trammell, Mauricio Dubn, Chas McCormick and Pedro Len. Last year, that group combined to hit .234/.279/.312 with scratch defense in the major leagues.

McCormick is projected to bounce back and could be useful against right-handers even without a full recovery. Len hits the ball super hard he had a 117.5 MPH max exit velocity in Triple A last year, which would've been in the top five in the big leagues, equal to Aaron Judge and runs well, so he's a wild card. Dubn profiles as a super utility guy.

This group could use more of a sure thing. Maybe calling the Giants and asking about Mike Yastrzemski would make sense. As a lefty, he could fit into a platoon with one of the righties, reducing the Astros' dependence on two iffy right-handed bats to step forward and take the job. Of course, that would ensure that the Astros were north of the first luxury tax apron, and if that's the case … they might as well sign a free agent at that point, right?

Also mentions the Red Sox need a catcher. What about sending Presley and Victor to them for Wilyer?


Would you take guys like Pressly & Caratini for Yainer?

No, but there are GMs dumber then me who might
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He doesn't deserve anything near that. What a moron


Boras needs to step away from the PS5 and start dealing with real GMs again
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You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.
I think at this point we likely need Pressly more as a bullpen arm than whatever we could get for him in return.
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What you're getting back for him is essentially an extra $15m to spend on a OF bat upgrade.
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It's not about return. We'll get a lotto ticket. What we need is the salary space under the threshold to sign an OF.
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texasaggie2015 said:

You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.



True, but by trading him.Does it not open up an opportunity to sign a difference maker in the outfield.
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Astros signed Zack Short to Minor League deal.
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This is how I see it.


Needs:

-Corner Outfielder (LHH)
-To maintain/reduce current payroll

Plan 1A:

-Trade Ryan Pressly ($14M 2025) and/or Victor Caratini ($6M 2025) for a bucket of baseballs
-Sign a free agent LHH OF. Even with freed up cash this will probably not be a player of Santander's ilk. Potentially Profar. More likely Verdugo or Winker.
-Cesar Salad is backup catcher

Plan 1B:
-Trade Ryan Pressly and/or Victor Caratini and/or a more attractive asset or two for an MLB LHH Corner OF.

Threat:
-Ryan Pressly has a no trade clause. He can veto any trade and may be motivated to do so.


I'm not sure this team can really upgrade without exceeding the luxury tax threshold.

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That's my point with the Pressly trade. I don't think we're getting $14,000,000 back. I think they'd make us eat such a large portion of his salary that it wouldn't be worth it.
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texasaggie2015 said:

You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.
What is the argument against him from other teams? Is it purely money that they don't want his whole salary? Or something else making him not have much trade value. Because listening to the folks on here, he is the best reliever in the league, and we are rubes for not realizing that. Yet here we are trying to trade him and nobody wants him.
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texasaggie2015 said:

You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.


I assumed the primary motivator for a trade is in the salary dump (not to mention getting rid of a potentially disgruntled player from the clubhouse). I guess that is the question- is the cap flexibility alone worth a trade?

ETA: you guys beat me to it. Another option might be to seek an equitable swap- Pressly and money for an OF of value that nets zero on the payroll... such as Pressly and $10 million for a $4 million OF who has value to the Astros. If that made sense.
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Quo Vadis? said:

That's my point with the Pressly trade. I don't think we're getting $14,000,000 back. I think they'd make us eat such a large portion of his salary that it wouldn't be worth it.


This. We either are eating part of it or even if all 14 M is being moved, you only get to spend like half of it. What kind of difference maker can you sign for 7 M? You can't. The only way it makes sense is if you trade for someone. I am all for.

Build a package around Melton or Arrighetti for Donovan. That gives you an everyday OFer who can play some INF. Plus bat. Lefty. And uses the Crawford boxes going oppo.
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Correct. I'm just saying that to limit the meltdown if/when we move him for a couple lower level prospects
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Teams like him and there's no shortage of teams interested. He just wants a one-year extension from whatever team deals for him. That's holding things up right now.
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txags92 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.
What is the argument against him from other teams? Is it purely money that they don't want his whole salary? Or something else making him not have much trade value. Because listening to the folks on here, he is the best reliever in the league, and we are rubes for not realizing that. Yet here we are trying to trade him and nobody wants him.


He's not the best reliever. He was a plus high leverage reliever for a large part of the Astros dynasty. He's declined and now overpaid. He makes our team better on the roster than not. But if we're being limited by the CBT level we HAVE to make a move. There are very few options. He makes some sense and have expressed interest in other places if the landing is right.
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I'd only want to go that route if it means the Astros could pull off a Santander or Profar signing with the cash. But it doesn't seem like it would free up enough cash for that.

I tend to think Ryan Pressly would be more valuable to the 2025 team than Alex Verdugo.

Maybe a creative trade involving Pressly and some others could bring in some unexpected OF who is better than Verdugo/Winker.
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txags92 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

You're not getting much back for Pressly unfortunately.

Wilyer was discussed with Boston as part of a potential deal for Framber that never came to fruition.
What is the argument against him from other teams? Is it purely money that they don't want his whole salary? Or something else making him not have much trade value. Because listening to the folks on here, he is the best reliever in the league, and we are rubes for not realizing that. Yet here we are trying to trade him and nobody wants him.
I believe t's his no-trade clause. Ryan is being difficult about it.
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But 2015 has also made comments that Pressly is being difficult with his no-trade clause. I think that's more of the issue at this point.
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