***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****

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MaxPower
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I'm good with this
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I still don't think that would present a real obstacle to a Belli deal.

I have thought that Belli was a good fit, but his value to us would be somewhat diminished by acquiring Paredes. Belli is not an elite CF any more, and a lot of his value is to be able to play both CF and 1B which both help us.

If you acquire Paredes, especially if Cam Smith or another highly regarded IF prospect is included, then Paredes is only at 3B for the short term and projects to eventually slide to 1B, making Bellinger's versatility a little less valuable to the Astros.

Suzuki is a better bat and a better financial fit.
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I don't buy that.

We've pursued Belli multiple times in recent years.
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Yeah, good luck avoiding Boras clients Cashman.

Honestly have to wonder if Boras pushed Soto to the Mets because he knew he could squeeze the Yankees on other free agents with their fans being up in arms.
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Current Yankees and Boras clients include Cole and Rodon.

And oh by the way Bregman .
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It's so beautiful. Please don't fumble this deal, Dana. The Cubs package is somehow damn near perfect.


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This worries me.... Cubs supposedly looking to move Suzuki OR Belli. Dont think they want to move both. Does Belli to NYY mess up our Cubs deal by (a) taking Suzuki off the table and (b) reducing competition (NYY out) for Tucker?
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Seems to me we need to bite now if the Cubs are offering what's being reported (and that's a big if). But the more time goes by, the more I'm feeling we might get screwed. And I would draw a very hard line with the Yankees. I'm not talking unless Gil and Dominguez are part of that conversation.
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agproducer said:

From Ortiz -- former Houston sportswriter


Unless he's being traded in Spanish, Jesus doesn't know anything about it.
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MaxPower said:



I'm good with this


Zero truth to this.
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WGAF what was said many years ago? They are professionals. Belli would fit in within 5 seconds of joining the team. That talk is BS.
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Yup. Been saying this for a long time and have been told there's plenty of folks in that clubhouse who have advocated for him.
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Does the longer Bregman goes without signing increase or decrease Houston's chances of him coming back?
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Unless something absolutely drastic happens I think that ship has sailed.
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I came to terms with Bregman being gone as soon as Adams got his deal.
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That's pathetic... Cashman can go to hell
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No idea if this is true, but I would be surprised if Tucker signed an extension
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I'd be surprised as well, but if the Cubs offer anything close to 11/500, do you really think he says no?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Yup. Been saying this for a long time and have been told there's plenty of folks in that clubhouse who have advocated for him.
Well that's a letdown. Baseball used to about lifetime grudges. I'd trade for Ballinger and then send him to A ball to work on his swing. When he refused i would void his contract. I was always sad the astros didn't trade for Mike fiers so they could turn around and trade him a team in El Salvador or something.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


No idea if this is true, but I would be surprised if Tucker signed an extension
What doesn't make sense is if they want to trade Bellinger and we supposedly have been interested then why don't we just get Bellinger instead of Suzuki? It will enhance the prospect package for us AND stick the Yankees.
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MaxPower said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


No idea if this is true, but I would be surprised if Tucker signed an extension
What doesn't make sense is if they want to trade Bellinger and we supposedly have been interested then why don't we just get Bellinger instead of Suzuki? It will enhance the prospect package for us AND stick the Yankees.


Crane wants to be under the CBT. Suzuki is 19 M vs Belli's 27.5. Belli also has the option be opt out after 25 if he has a big year. The 8.5 M is significant when you only have ~13 M to play with plus whatever you trade away.
MaxPower
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Get them to eat money just like the Yanks are telling them to do
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Think that's probably the hang up. They don't want to eat any money.

Isn't that the whole reason they wanna move Belli? Wonder if their ability to move that entire contract has any bearing on what they offer Tucker in an extension.
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Appreciate all the Cubs coverage this week!
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Cam Smith would be such an awesome piece. Idk if we Dana can get him in the deal or not but if he can. Oh baby.
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10andBOUNCE said:

Appreciate all the Cubs coverage this week!


How are the Cubs not better? I really like the roster and the farm. I guess it's mostly pitching.
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Farmer1906 said:

10andBOUNCE said:

Appreciate all the Cubs coverage this week!


How are the Cubs not better? I really like the roster and the farm. I guess it's mostly pitching.
They are the Cubs? They are Angels of the NL.
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Farmer1906 said:

10andBOUNCE said:

Appreciate all the Cubs coverage this week!


How are the Cubs not better? I really like the roster and the farm. I guess it's mostly pitching.
It's definitely RF for them. Kyle Tucker would solve all of their problems.
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Lets get this deal done guys!
MaxPower
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Wabs
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Once again, we should not work a deal with the Yankees unless Gil AND Dominguez are part of the deal. It sounds like that will probably be a no-go from the Yankees. So **** them, deal with the Cubs and get something done.
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Paredes and Smith mean see shed money and have more to offer Bregman possibly. Then we don't take a big defensive hit at 3B.
 
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