No one we traded would've had that kind of impact.
Daniel Jones is headed to the Seattle Mariners on a 1-year deal, per @JeffPassan pic.twitter.com/LK8afgi5Wu
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wasn't his fault he got zero playoff wins. Joey Loperfido will be "Joey Who? in a short time. Hell we might be able to get him back when the Jays DFA him.The Porkchop Express said:
Joey Loperfido traded for a rental that got you zero playoff wins.
League source confirms #Astros were among teams interested in LHP Yusei Kikuchi, who lands a 3-year $63 million deal with the #Angels pic.twitter.com/7slxZfRvwe
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All I do is Nguyen said:
Considering how the season ended I wish we could've kept Lopes and Wagner, Bloss I was okay with letting walk
Im not blaming the pitcher. I'm blaming management. Don't trade a young exciting player for a rental when you aren't close to competing for a title / have no guarantees of resigning the rental. That's the surefire way to mediocrity.MAROON said:wasn't his fault he got zero playoff wins. Joey Loperfido will be "Joey Who? in a short time. Hell we might be able to get him back when the Jays DFA him.The Porkchop Express said:
Joey Loperfido traded for a rental that got you zero playoff wins.
The Porkchop Express said:Im not blaming the pitcher. I'm blaming management. Don't trade a young exciting player for a rental when you aren't close to competing for a title / have no guarantees of resigning the rental. That's the surefire way to mediocrity.MAROON said:wasn't his fault he got zero playoff wins. Joey Loperfido will be "Joey Who? in a short time. Hell we might be able to get him back when the Jays DFA him.The Porkchop Express said:
Joey Loperfido traded for a rental that got you zero playoff wins.
MLB trade scenarios: Bowden on Garrett Crochet, Jordan Montgomery, Nolan Arenado and more https://t.co/F8M4nlVPUL
— Jim Bowden⚾️ (@JimBowdenGM) November 25, 2024
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It's no surprise the Phillies are looking for an outfielder. In a scenario where Alex Bregman (doesn't sign with the Astros), what are the chances they then trade Kyle Tucker to retool their roster? The Phillies could start with a package of something like Alec Bohm, Ranger Surez and some prospect(s) to get a deal done. Tom Y.
Tucker is the Astros' best all-around player and although they haven't been able to sign him to a long-term contract yet, they've made it clear to me they are not trading him period, end of discussion. If they were to trade him, your proposed package would not be close to enough to land him.
What would a return for Framber Valdez look like for the Astros? They are deep in starting pitching and have a better track record of producing a replacement starting pitcher than, say, one for Tucker in the outfielder, so if they trade one, to me Framber would make more sense. Michael D.
The Valdez market would have to wait until this year's class of free-agent starters led by Corbin Burnes, Roki Sasaki, Max Fried and Blake Snell signs. Once that occurs, the teams that miss out might be willing to offer prospect packages for Valdez. But keep in mind, the Astros are trying to win now and have no interest in sacrificing that to build for the future at least not in 2025. So I think it's highly unlikely they will trade him. However, in concept, the return would be a package of two good prospects and one solid prospect.
I am not sure you get 3 top prospects alone for Tucker. Add in big leaguers with value and the prospect package wouldn't be impressive.Wabs said:
That deal for Tucker - Suarez, Bohm and prospects. Those would have to be 3 of their very top prospects at minimum to make this deal do-able....
I don't see "alot" of big league value in Bohm or Suarez. Maybe I'm wrong? That's why I say if it's those two then I'd want top-level prospects added in, with at least one of them MLB-ready within a year. I suppose we could soften the requirement a bit if the Phillies would be willing to take Pressly off our hands.Farmer1906 said:I am not sure you get 3 top prospects alone for Tucker. Add in big leaguers with value and the prospect package wouldn't be impressive.Wabs said:
That deal for Tucker - Suarez, Bohm and prospects. Those would have to be 3 of their very top prospects at minimum to make this deal do-able....
Here's where the #STLCards stand on their preliminary trade talks with Nolan Arenado, who is open to playing first base if it will help create roster flexibility for a potential new team.
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) November 26, 2024
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Wabs said:I don't see "alot" of big league value in Bohm or Suarez. Maybe I'm wrong? That's why I say if it's those two then I'd want top-level prospects added in, with at least one of them MLB-ready within a year. I suppose we could soften the requirement a bit if the Phillies would be willing to take Pressly off our hands.Farmer1906 said:I am not sure you get 3 top prospects alone for Tucker. Add in big leaguers with value and the prospect package wouldn't be impressive.Wabs said:
That deal for Tucker - Suarez, Bohm and prospects. Those would have to be 3 of their very top prospects at minimum to make this deal do-able....
If we don't re-sign Breggy (likely), then I wouldn't mind adding both Bohm and Brett Baty (Mets) to see if either would be a longer term fix at 3B.
Agreed from a pure numbers standpoint. However, teams are going to have to overpay to pry Tucker, which is also the only situation in which he should be traded. The Phils have already questioned Bohm's maturity so, while he has value, I'm not sure he's someone either the Phils or Astros want to invest in long term. Trading for Tucker also gives a leg up to that team in extending him (which the Phillies can afford).Farmer1906 said:Wabs said:I don't see "alot" of big league value in Bohm or Suarez. Maybe I'm wrong? That's why I say if it's those two then I'd want top-level prospects added in, with at least one of them MLB-ready within a year. I suppose we could soften the requirement a bit if the Phillies would be willing to take Pressly off our hands.Farmer1906 said:I am not sure you get 3 top prospects alone for Tucker. Add in big leaguers with value and the prospect package wouldn't be impressive.Wabs said:
That deal for Tucker - Suarez, Bohm and prospects. Those would have to be 3 of their very top prospects at minimum to make this deal do-able....
If we don't re-sign Breggy (likely), then I wouldn't mind adding both Bohm and Brett Baty (Mets) to see if either would be a longer term fix at 3B.
Here is what baseball trade values has each.
Bohm - 24.9
Suarez - 20.1
Tucker - 30.3
According to them those two alone would be an overpay for Tucker. The idea is 3 years of above average players (1 year Suarez, 2 years of Bohm) is better than 1 year of a very good player.
Those 2 would be short window go for it guys. They dont make sense if we're trading away Tucker.
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Nov. 26: Astros, Phillies, Red Sox showing interest in Adames as 3B (reports)
Adames has played his entire seven-year career at shortstop and has been a plus defender in the position in the past three years according to outs above average. However, the 29-year-old is reportedly open to playing third base "for the right deal and the right team," according to MLB Network insider Jon Paul Morosi.
That apparent willingness has at least three teams considering Adames at the hot corner: The Astros, Phillies and Red Sox.
Morosi said Tuesday that the Astros are interested in Adames as a third baseman. Houston would have a clear need at the position if it can't re-sign Alex Bregman. The Phillies' interest, according to USA Today's Bob Nightengale, is contingent upon the team trading third baseman Alec Bohm as part of a package for White Sox left-hander Garrett Crochet. If such a deal is struck, Nightengale reports that Philadelphia "is expected to make a strong play" for Adames or Bregman.
Nightengale adds that Boston has "strong interest" in Adames. The Red Sox currently have veteran Trevor Story at shortstop and perennial All-Star Rafael Devers at third, but the Red Sox have reportedly discussed moving Devers to a different position, which could open the door for Adames. He would also provide some depth at short where Story has played only 163 games overall in three seasons since joining the Red Sox.
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Why Bregman makes the most sense for…
Astros: He's arguably the Astros' most popular player behind Jose Altuve when it comes to Houston's run of success over the last decade. Plus, his wife is from Houston and he's put down some roots in Texas. Bregman said at the end of the season he'd like to remain with the Astros, who took him with the No. 2 overall pick in the 2015 Draft out of LSU. The Astros, who have won seven of the past eight AL West titles and have been to the World Series four times since 2017, are still in a win-now mode, and winning is all Bregman has known. They made the ALCS in his first seven full seasons in the big leagues before falling short last season. Altuve practically pleaded with the Astros to keep Bregman in Houston when the season ended, and owner Jim Crane later admitted Altuve's words carry meaning. -- Brian McTaggart
What will each team's best "pitch" be?
Astros: Bregman will turn 31 at the start of next season, so a six- or seven-year contract extension means he'll probably finish his career in Houston. Altuve's extension prior to last season will keep him in Houston until he's 39 years old, and Bregman could join him as an "Astro for life" if he re-signs with Houston. Altuve desperately wants to Bregman to return, and the two -- the only remaining position players who were on both of Houston's championship teams -- could finish their careers in Houston as the faces of the golden era of baseball in Houston, the same way Jeff Bagwell and Craig Biggio were the faces of an Astros team that made the playoffs six times from 1997-2005 (1997-99, '01, '04-05). -- McTaggart
What's the biggest hurdle that could stand in the way of Bregman signing?
Astros: Simply put, money. Crane isn't a believer in signing free agents to lengthy deals, which is why the team has let players like George Springer, Gerrit Cole and Carlos Correa walk in years past. And the fact the Astros have continued to win at a high level even though so many key players have left in free agency proves it's been a good strategy. Crane has never guaranteed more than five years to a free agent, and the biggest deal he's given to any player is the $151 million Altuve received with his extension in 2018. The baseline for a Bregman deal may be the six-year, $151 million third baseman Matt Chapman -- also a Scott Boras client -- received from the Giants in September. Regardless, it will take a club-record deal to keep Bregman in Houston. -- McTaggart
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Wouldn't losing someone with one attached would help soften the blow?
What you get back, especially as a team over the tax threshold, is significantly less than what you give up. We would get a 4th round pick while losing a 2nd, 5th and $1M in international spending money (we only get about $6M to begin with).Ag_07 said:
Wouldn't losing someone with one attached would help soften the blow?
Jake raked all year long. pic.twitter.com/iI59BugwOj
— Houston Astros (@astros) November 26, 2024
tjack16 said:Jake raked all year long. pic.twitter.com/iI59BugwOj
— Houston Astros (@astros) November 26, 2024
Did he really though? His .646 OPS says otherwise
#STLCards 3B Nolan Arenado is open to playing 1B for a potential new team, per @katiejwoo pic.twitter.com/irsLvkRm5X
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Blake Snell just posted himself in a Dodgers jersey on his Instagram pic.twitter.com/88eTqShatR
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