Tuve with two steaks
***** Official Houston Astros 2024-2025 Offseason Thread *****
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I'll take Paredes if nobody got dibs.
If you keep Cam on the roster you can't platoon him. He needs every day ABs or you're just killing his development.
texasaggie2015 said:
If you keep Cam on the roster you can't platoon him. He needs every day ABs or you're just killing his development.
He should be able to slot in for 3/4 starts
Ron White with 10ks.
I'm starting to feel the opening day jitters and it's only Monday. I'm not gonna be able to focus on jack **** this week.
I agree. I guess it will boil down to who they want to get more AB's. Him or ZD.texasaggie2015 said:
If you keep Cam on the roster you can't platoon him. He needs every day ABs or you're just killing his development.
Listening to Joe talk about Cam Smith and how he's handled himself off the field is what I think gives him the spot.
Joe had some really nice things to say about how he handles himself as a young rookie playing a new position on a new team. You can tell Joe is impressed. Seems like he also likes the fire and spark he brings also.
Let the dude ball out!
Joe had some really nice things to say about how he handles himself as a young rookie playing a new position on a new team. You can tell Joe is impressed. Seems like he also likes the fire and spark he brings also.
Let the dude ball out!
some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.Shifting away from stealing an extra year of club control is bad business, especially when you're a team that refuses to extend your own guys, but it's great news for the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and other big spenders. They'll get their shot at Cam Smith a year earlier now https://t.co/h2al1SCIZ0
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) March 25, 2025
Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.
Nice play by SL SS.
linkdude said:some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.Shifting away from stealing an extra year of club control is bad business, especially when you're a team that refuses to extend your own guys, but it's great news for the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and other big spenders. They'll get their shot at Cam Smith a year earlier now https://t.co/h2al1SCIZ0
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) March 25, 2025
Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.
Dana has shown in Atlanta that he would offer extensions very early to get more years/cheaper overall. Wonder if Crane will let him do that here.
Paredes with the Crawford box homer!
First of many Crawford Boxes homers for Paredes
My man! First row of the Boxes works just fine
superaggie73 said:
Is Melton hurt? Surprised he isn't on the Space Cowboys lineup tonight.
I believe so…
That and there are at least some incentives if you have him on the opening day roster that didn't exist previously. We can get an extra first round pick if he wins ROY or finishes top 3 in MVP any of the first 3 seasons. I don't see any other clear ROY competitors so that seems like a realistic possibility.
is the train running?
Record: 100-62
Division Finish: 1st
Playoffs: we win it all, continuing the golden era.
Team MVP: Yanier with a monster year
Team ROY: Cam puts up crazy numbers
1-3 Bold Predictions (Positive):
1) Rodgers takes over 2nd and plays gold glove defense. With some tweaks the data nerds uncover he also has a career year at the plate
2) Yordan is healthy for the full season and puts up monster numbers
3) Dana works his magic at the trade deadline and grabs us a top shelf left handed hitting OF for Chaz and Cintron
1-3 Bold Predictions (Negative):
1). Our starting pitching continues to deal with injuries and we have to lean on unproven starters for a significant number of starts.
2) We have to replace our medical team due to on-going questionable diagnoses of "discomfort"
3) Forest Whitley gets injured again and retires
Division Finish: 1st
Playoffs: we win it all, continuing the golden era.
Team MVP: Yanier with a monster year
Team ROY: Cam puts up crazy numbers
1-3 Bold Predictions (Positive):
1) Rodgers takes over 2nd and plays gold glove defense. With some tweaks the data nerds uncover he also has a career year at the plate
2) Yordan is healthy for the full season and puts up monster numbers
3) Dana works his magic at the trade deadline and grabs us a top shelf left handed hitting OF for Chaz and Cintron
1-3 Bold Predictions (Negative):
1). Our starting pitching continues to deal with injuries and we have to lean on unproven starters for a significant number of starts.
2) We have to replace our medical team due to on-going questionable diagnoses of "discomfort"
3) Forest Whitley gets injured again and retires
Ya F that. I don't think I care if we don't have Cam Smith in 2031. So much can change by then. I know for a fact we have nobody with his potential NOW.linkdude said:some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.Shifting away from stealing an extra year of club control is bad business, especially when you're a team that refuses to extend your own guys, but it's great news for the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and other big spenders. They'll get their shot at Cam Smith a year earlier now https://t.co/h2al1SCIZ0
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) March 25, 2025
Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.
George Springer brought up any earlier would have still had us win the same 2017 WS. Correa brough up later might not have. Bregman brought up later might not have. Would I rather have Bregman this year than 2016/2017 in his first year of service time? Absolutely Fing not.
I think it is more likely he is the key piece in a big trade for somebody's best prospects and draft picks in a few years as the start of the bigger rebuild.linkdude said:some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.Shifting away from stealing an extra year of club control is bad business, especially when you're a team that refuses to extend your own guys, but it's great news for the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and other big spenders. They'll get their shot at Cam Smith a year earlier now https://t.co/h2al1SCIZ0
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) March 25, 2025
Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.
Doubtful. A lot of money will be off the books in the next couple years. I could see them trading Yordan in a couple years to reload, specifically given Altuve is likely a DH the last couple years of his deal.
I like the way you think.iamtheglove said:
Record: 100-62
Division Finish: 1st
Playoffs: we win it all, continuing the golden era.
Team MVP: Yanier with a monster year
Team ROY: Cam puts up crazy numbers
1-3 Bold Predictions (Positive):
1) Rodgers takes over 2nd and plays gold glove defense. With some tweaks the data nerds uncover he also has a career year at the plate
2) Yordan is healthy for the full season and puts up monster numbers
3) Dana works his magic at the trade deadline and grabs us a top shelf left handed hitting OF for Chaz and Cintron
1-3 Bold Predictions (Negative):
1). Our starting pitching continues to deal with injuries and we have to lean on unproven starters for a significant number of starts.
2) We have to replace our medical team due to on-going questionable diagnoses of "discomfort"
3) Forest Whitley gets injured again and retires
They gave it a good try this season tho
The White Sox have been eliminated from playoff contention pic.twitter.com/ejRzGhQUMx
— FAX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFAX) March 24, 2025
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Hader heater tops out at 93. Woof
news report says they were vacationing in Costa Rica where he got sick and passedEastCoastAgNc said:Statement from Brett and Jessica Gardner:
— New York Yankees (@Yankees) March 23, 2025
With heavy hearts we are saddened to announce the passing of our youngest son, Miller. He was 14 years old and has left us far too soon after falling ill along with several other family members while on vacation. We have so many… pic.twitter.com/lBCBVmKGUe
This is awful. It's not the way of the world that parents should have to bury their children. T&P to his family.
Ryan Gusto will open the season in the Astros bullpen. Joe Espada said he told Gusto after his outing tonight that he’ll fill the last bullpen spot.
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) March 25, 2025
I like it.EastCoastAgNc said:Ryan Gusto will open the season in the Astros bullpen. Joe Espada said he told Gusto after his outing tonight that he’ll fill the last bullpen spot.
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) March 25, 2025
As my yearly duty I'll take Rake Farm once again if we're picking white knights.
Oh boy. Hopefully he is getting warmed to cause if that's his peak heater we are in trouble
Joe Espada also confirmed he’s going with Isaac Paredes in the second lineup spot and Yordan Alvarez third entering the season.
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) March 25, 2025
If I recall correctly, it took him a while to eclipse the 96mph mark last year.Ag4life80 said:
Hader heater tops out at 93. Woof
Spolane is a wet blanket, and while I understand his point, however what deal should have the Astros done? Tucker? He won't be worth $350 million. Bregman? I don't believe he was worth the contract he got with the Red Sox, and definitely the long term deal he was looking for. The Springer deal hasn't worked out well for Toronto. Correa, has been OK, but not worth the deal he was looking for at the time.
The Astros have paid Altuve and Alvarez, so it's not like they haven't been willing to extend their players.
The Astros have paid Altuve and Alvarez, so it's not like they haven't been willing to extend their players.
linkdude said:some wet-blanketry that's been earned by the franchise over the years. If it helps the team this year though, I'm guessing most would say it's worth it. He won't be any easier to sign to an extension than most potential stars.Shifting away from stealing an extra year of club control is bad business, especially when you're a team that refuses to extend your own guys, but it's great news for the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and other big spenders. They'll get their shot at Cam Smith a year earlier now https://t.co/h2al1SCIZ0
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) March 25, 2025
Personally though it seems like inversely it could make an extension more palatable since the team would be putting him out there and not screwing around with his service time.
"A rookie who starts on the roster and spends at least 172 days on the major league roster or injured list during a typical 187-day season, accrues a full year of service time"
My understanding is that Cam Smith can still be sent down and would not gain a year of service time. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Cam Smith, if he finishes in the top two ROY candidate slots, would automatically get a full year of service time regardless of how long he's played. It's also possible we get a draft pick if he wins.
Seems to be very little downside, imho. If a stud player earns his right to be on the roster, don't hold him back, you're only hurting your chances for 2025.
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