*****Official Texas Rangers World Series Title Defense Thread***** [Staff Warning]

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4:56p, 10/2/24
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Oh happy day!
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4:56p, 10/2/24
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Healthy is very important but that wasn't the biggest reason for the season we had. Everyone performed well below expectations. Doesn't matter if everyone is healthy but not performing. We just need the guys on the field to play to their potential. If we are relying on health we will not win.
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4:56p, 10/2/24
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Now that the Astros are done, wth is going on with Baltimore? They still haven't scored yet and are facing elimination. Is Will Smith going to do this again?? I think Smith is still out injured, but just having him on the bench has to be good for something.

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5:05p, 10/2/24
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Where's the bill bad ass with the sock account today?
We won just as many playoff games and get a likely top 10 pick.
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5:13p, 10/2/24
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Orioles just scored.
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to KT 90 • 5:56p, 10/2/24
KT 90 said:
Now that the Astros are done, wth is going on with Baltimore? They still haven't scored yet and are facing elimination. Is Will Smith going to do this again?? I think Smith is still out injured, but just having him on the bench has to be good for something.

Im pulling for Witt jr. and his little band of rebels.
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5:59p, 10/2/24
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KC up 2-1 I guess Baltimore really is gonna go 0-4 these last 2
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6:31p, 10/2/24
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What's great is the hatred of the Astros isn't exclusive to Rangers fans…it's recognized across most of baseball.
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6:43p, 10/2/24
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Those young Orioles who we all should fear in years to come gets swept again
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In reply to bmac_aggie18 • 6:46p, 10/2/24
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bmac_aggie18 said:
KC up 2-1 I guess Baltimore really is gonna go 0-4 these last 2


0-5. And now a 10 game postseason losing streak overall
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 6:51p, 10/2/24
DallasAg 94 said:
MrCoachEricTaylor said:
DallasAg 94 said:
A reminder where we are:

deGrom ($40M/$37MCBT), Mahle ($16.5M/$11M CBT), Gray ($13M/$14CBT), Dunning (Arb2), Bradford (Serf)
Option Eovaldi ($20M)
40: Winn, White, Leiter, Rocker

Losses: Scherzer, Heaney, Urena
Others: Lorenzen

I don't consider any of them to be a lock for 150+ IP in 2025.

Do we know how much is falling off from those losses?
Financially? Yes. I use COTS.

Scherzer: $13M
Heaney: $13M/$12.5CBT <- Incentives ($5M) not included.
Lorenzen: $4.5M <- Additional incentives $1.25 pro-rated
Urena: $1.75M

It includes CBT and 2025 projected numbers. $165M CBT commit (includes $20M for Eovaldi) on a projected $241M number. Add in Arbs and Serfs. About $75M to spend. And doesn't include Robertson's Option.

We also lose Leclerc and Yates.

If Carter (OF), Kumar (SP), and Church (RP) can solidify roles... and the Rangers are comfortable with Smith and Duran... Our needs are likely a 2nd Catcher, another SP (or 2), and some RP.

There are some roles we could upgrade, but guys like Taveras and Adolis are just as viable as improvements in '25 over '24 as bringing in someone. I don't think we were as far away from the playoffs as it felt all season.
For those interested... MLBTR has projected Arb #s:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2025.html
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Rangers (5)

So:
$165M in Contract commits
$ 25.5M in projected Arbs


We're at about $190M (including Eovaldi @$20M). Add Serfs.

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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 9:18p, 10/2/24
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Those young Orioles who we all should fear in years to come gets swept again
Smoltz probably **** himself
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In reply to Grapesoda2525 • 9:20p, 10/2/24
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If they played 100 times I'm sure they'd win one.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 9:21p, 10/2/24
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DannyDuberstein said:
Those young Orioles who we all should fear in years to come gets swept again
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9:22p, 10/2/24
Having either the royals or tigers in the ALCS gives me someone to root for. Make it happen.
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9:54p, 10/2/24
The Astros off-season should be fun to watch.

They have $170M (CBT) committed. MLBTR projects them with $58M in Arbs (Mainly Valdez and Tucker).

That's $228M towards a $241M CBT leaving $13M for Bregman.
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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 10:08p, 10/2/24
DallasAg 94 said:
DallasAg 94 said:
MrCoachEricTaylor said:
DallasAg 94 said:
A reminder where we are:

deGrom ($40M/$37MCBT), Mahle ($16.5M/$11M CBT), Gray ($13M/$14CBT), Dunning (Arb2), Bradford (Serf)
Option Eovaldi ($20M)
40: Winn, White, Leiter, Rocker

Losses: Scherzer, Heaney, Urena
Others: Lorenzen

I don't consider any of them to be a lock for 150+ IP in 2025.

Do we know how much is falling off from those losses?
Financially? Yes. I use COTS.

Scherzer: $13M
Heaney: $13M/$12.5CBT <- Incentives ($5M) not included.
Lorenzen: $4.5M <- Additional incentives $1.25 pro-rated
Urena: $1.75M

It includes CBT and 2025 projected numbers. $165M CBT commit (includes $20M for Eovaldi) on a projected $241M number. Add in Arbs and Serfs. About $75M to spend. And doesn't include Robertson's Option.

We also lose Leclerc and Yates.

If Carter (OF), Kumar (SP), and Church (RP) can solidify roles... and the Rangers are comfortable with Smith and Duran... Our needs are likely a 2nd Catcher, another SP (or 2), and some RP.

There are some roles we could upgrade, but guys like Taveras and Adolis are just as viable as improvements in '25 over '24 as bringing in someone. I don't think we were as far away from the playoffs as it felt all season.
For those interested... MLBTR has projected Arb #s:
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2025.html
Quote:
Rangers (5)

So:
$165M in Contract commits
$ 25.5M in projected Arbs


We're at about $190M (including Eovaldi @$20M). Add Serfs.



Beautiful. Do we Soto?
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In reply to Grapesoda2525 • 10:09p, 10/2/24
Grapesoda2525 said:
Having either the royals or tigers in the ALCS gives me someone to root for. Make it happen.


Nice to see Houston out but I'm not watching that. Worse than watching Tuesday night Maction.
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In reply to KT 90 • 10:16p, 10/2/24
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KT 90 said:



I wonder what it'd feel like if the Astros won a playoff game?

Guess we'll never know
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10:47p, 10/2/24
The Astros have won one home playoff game in their last 8 chances. They're also the only franchise to lose all 4 home games in a series…twice. That includes losing a World Series against a wild card team and losing an ALCS to their bitter rivals from the city they loathe with all their being, who happened to be a wild card because they won the last game of the season to get home field advantage…
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In reply to rgag12 • 11:02p, 10/2/24
rgag12 said:



I wonder what it'd feel like if the Astros won a playoff game?

Guess we'll never know





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In reply to DallasAg 94 • 7:36a, 10/3/24
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Hinch finessed tf out of the Astros. I'm sure he felt like he just won the power ball.
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8:25a, 10/3/24
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their old crutch Verlander is both washed and a FA
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9:12a, 10/3/24
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Jake Bloss, Joey Loperfido and Will Wagner should be good the next few years
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9:30a, 10/3/24
The reality is that the division isn't that great, so Houston will still have a chance for some more division titles, but if the Rangers or Mariners could build a decent team, it's there for them. But the M's just can't seem to do it for some reason and our Rangers seem VERY CONCERNED about the luxury tax threshold. No organization sustains winning for multiple seasons if they cannot develop starting pitching and want to focus solely on being profitable, which seems to be the Ray Davis model.
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In reply to JWinTX • 9:34a, 10/3/24
AG
Agree with the first part. Not sure I agree with the second part. IMHO it is hard to judge financial approach the last couple of years because of the Bally fiasco. He has shown a willingness to spend in the past. He did so with JD until all of JD's moves became self defeating. He gave CY what he needed and wanted last year.
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to JWinTX • 9:37a, 10/3/24
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focus solely on being profitable, which seems to be the Ray Davis model.
You lost me with this statement. Is Ray Davis supposed to lose money to make us happy? That's a pretty weak ass argument - and oh by the way - we signed Corey Seager, Marcus Semien, and Jacob deGrom to huge contracts & won a WS, so he's proven his willingness to spend money.

The inability to develop starting pitching, and I would include all-star level positions players, is an issue I agree with - although there were quite a few pitchers in the minor league system that look poised to break through, so maybe that trend is changing. But we need to retire the narrative that the Rangers don't want to spend money, because that's simply a lazy and uninformed take.
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In reply to rbtexan • 9:50a, 10/3/24
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I missed the comment about Ray Davis only wanting to be profitable. Not sure which post that's from, but it's about as far from reality as it gets.

He even said in his press conference after firing JD "I hate losing" and then followed it up with the signings mentioned above. Some on here just will not acknowledge the difficulty of planning for expenditures when a major source of revenue is uncertain. Add on top that the guy that writes the checks would prefer to hit the reset button on the huge penalty tax he needs to pay (understandably so) and accusing this dude of pinching pennies absolutely does not apply.

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10:25a, 10/3/24
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Given the cash he dropped on Seager, Semien, and Degrom, considering Davis some sort of cheapskate is really disingenuous. In addition to the Bally's issue, don't forget that we aren't that far removed from this guy opening a brand new stadium that he couldn't sell tickets to for its inaugural season. They are also in a stage where the CBT would he extremely punitive
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11:34a, 10/3/24
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I hope the plan is to reset the tax this upcoming season with the goal of getting some big pieces in the 26 season.
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In reply to Water Boy • 12:42p, 10/3/24
I think deGrom will be central to '25.

We're 2 seasons in... 9GS and 2.85 ERA for about $70M. He is set for $37M in '25 and I know he is an ultra competitor and wants do what we brought him in to do.

I think we can stay the course without a big signing (especially if we keep Eovaldi) if deGrom can stay healthy all season and be at 28 +/- GS, 5.1 IP/GS, and sub 3.00 ERA for the regular season and stay healthy for the post-season. Get him at about 150-162 IP for the regular season.

Healthy Jung, Carter, and Seager will be an exciting season.
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12:47p, 10/3/24
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So our lineup next year (barring health) will be:

C: Jonah Heim
1b: ??? (I'm assuming Lowe but would like to upgrade)
2b: Semien
3b: Jung
SS: Seager
LF: Carter
CF: Langford
RF: Adolis
DH: ???

I would love it if we can bring another big bat in here for 1b or DH purposes.
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In reply to Water Boy • 12:54p, 10/3/24
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Water Boy said:
I hope the plan is to reset the tax this upcoming season with the goal of getting some big pieces in the 26 season.

It seems pretty clear from the articles I've read that the plan is to be under the CBT for the 2025 season. Of course, just because you start the season under the CBT doesn't stop you from saying screw it at the trade deadline and adding to the roster if you are in contention and feel like you need to add. But it's been a pretty consistent message from Evan Grant and others that the plan is to be under the CBT in 2025.

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In reply to Legal Custodian • 12:56p, 10/3/24
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Legal Custodian said:
So our lineup next year (barring health) will be:

C: Jonah Heim
1b: ??? (I'm assuming Lowe but would like to upgrade)
2b: Semien
3b: Jung
SS: Seager
LF: Carter
CF: Langford
RF: Adolis
DH: ???

I would love it if we can bring another big bat in here for 1b or DH purposes.

I could see us with a new First baseman, but it may not be an upgrade. Lowe is due $10M+ in arbitration, so he might end up being a causality to getting payroll under the CBT. Lowe seems to be a middle of the pack type 1B, not terrible, not great. Just depends on if CY et all think he is worth the $10M investment or not.

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12:59p, 10/3/24
For those interested... here are the 16 position players we have on the 40 and where they are:


C - Heim: 2 more years Arb
1B - Lowe: 2 more years Arb
2B - Semien: 4 yrs ~$25M CBT
3B - Jung: Serf + 3 yrs Arb
SS - Seager: 7 yrs ~$32.5 CBT
LF - Langford: 2 Serfs + 3 Arbs
CF - Taveras: 3 yrs Arb
RF - Adolis: 2 more years Arb
Ut - Smith: 4 yrs Arb
Ut - Duran: Serf + 3 Arbs
Ut - Carter: 2 Serfs + 3 Arbs

Foscue (25), Ornelas (24), Dustin Harris (24), Sandro Fabian (26), Sam Huff (26)

We have 2 guys under contract, but control EVERYONE for 2 more years. Janko is the only guy we really lose that has been part of the past 2 seasons.

It may be time to give the fringe players a final push.
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