*****Official Texas Rangers World Series Title Defense Thread***** [Staff Warning]

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South Platte
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Tough night.
Flounder Dorfman
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Tough season.
Tksymm7
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If he played the whole year healthy, then sure, by all means, but I can't trust him at all to stay on the field.
Tksymm7
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It's odd to say, but I think this team needs some major changes, even coming off a WS. There's guys on this team that are past their peak and we are seeing it.
Grapesoda2525
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I just took a giant dump again.

More relevant than the last 48 hours of baseball in Arlington Texas.
Coppell97
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Tksymm7 said:

It's odd to say, but I think this team needs some major changes, even coming off a WS. There's guys on this team that are past their peak and we are seeing it.

This is still a young team overall. They were actually ahead of schedule by winning the WS last year and most thought this year would be the one. Garcia is the only one who needs to go. It apears he's on the decline batting close to .200 now.
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Seager & Smith are the only 2 guys in our lineup with a SLG over .400 … we have no pop
South Platte
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I'm ready for a new pitching staff. What are we doing with 12 guys coming off surgery or 40 years old? What type of strategy is that?

I'm firmly in the don't trade Garcia camp. Lots of blame to go around. The only guys we trade right now are the UFA after this season.
Grapesoda2525
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Let's just focus on 2025 at this point.
DallasAg 94
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I'm not ready to sell, but if we happened to get there...

I'm expecting:
Eovaldi: Team's Top5 Prospect w/in the Top100
Yates: Team's Top5 Prospect w/in the Top100
Scherzer: Team's #4+#5-10

Heaney: Team's Top 8
Urena: Teams Top8

Lorenzen: Team's Top10
D-Roberts: Team's Top10
Leclerc: Teams Top10

Janko
Jonathan Hernandez

I'm looking at:
#32 Misiorowski RHP from Milw at AA
#48 Dalton Rushing C/1B from LAD at AA
#74 Spencer Jones OF from NYY at AA
#98 Quinn Mathews P from St.L at AA


Water Boy
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Time to rewatch the 2023 World Series highlights.
JWinTX
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South Platte said:

I'm ready for a new pitching staff. What are we doing with 12 guys coming off surgery or 40 years old? What type of strategy is that?

I'm firmly in the don't trade Garcia camp. Lots of blame to go around. The only guys we trade right now are the UFA after this season.

The hardest reality is that the organization literally cannot develop major league starters for our team. Last pitcher this organization developed and became an all star top of the rotation guy was Kevin Brown and that was in the early 90s. It's why last year was so amazing. We managed to win a WS with a rotation of guys we signed or traded for. But when the Jack Leiter's or the Kumar Rocker's of the world, just like DVD back in the day, never turn into anything for your team, it's just a killer. You waste high picks, big money and lots of time and get very little in return.
Grapesoda2525
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JWinTX said:

South Platte said:

I'm ready for a new pitching staff. What are we doing with 12 guys coming off surgery or 40 years old? What type of strategy is that?

I'm firmly in the don't trade Garcia camp. Lots of blame to go around. The only guys we trade right now are the UFA after this season.

The hardest reality is that the organization literally cannot develop major league starters for our team. Last pitcher this organization developed and became an all star top of the rotation guy was Kevin Brown and that was in the early 90s. It's why last year was so amazing. We managed to win a WS with a rotation of guys we signed or traded for. But when the Jack Leiter's or the Kumar Rocker's of the world, just like DVD back in the day, never turn into anything for your team, it's just a killer. You waste high picks, big money and lots of time and get very little in return.
Does Colby Lewis or Derek holland count?
Flounder Dorfman
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Yes. I think they both count.

But the point is still a good one. And I understand that when you make a trade, you have to give up something to get something in return, but that Ragans for Chapman trade is a real kick in the balls. We have this long history of not developing starting pitching and then it seems like the team we share a ST facility with knew what we had better than we did.

I know that is likely not the case, but you finally have a guy and you trade him away for a rental with a reputation of choking in the playoffs. Which is exactly what he did here.
Proposition Joe
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CJ Wilson
JWinTX
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Grapesoda2525 said:

JWinTX said:

South Platte said:

I'm ready for a new pitching staff. What are we doing with 12 guys coming off surgery or 40 years old? What type of strategy is that?

I'm firmly in the don't trade Garcia camp. Lots of blame to go around. The only guys we trade right now are the UFA after this season.

The hardest reality is that the organization literally cannot develop major league starters for our team. Last pitcher this organization developed and became an all star top of the rotation guy was Kevin Brown and that was in the early 90s. It's why last year was so amazing. We managed to win a WS with a rotation of guys we signed or traded for. But when the Jack Leiter's or the Kumar Rocker's of the world, just like DVD back in the day, never turn into anything for your team, it's just a killer. You waste high picks, big money and lots of time and get very little in return.
Does Colby Lewis or Derek holland count?

Colby was solid in the end, but it took a LONG time and a visit to Japan for years to get him to be a contributor.
Derek Holland had some ups but also and downs. Nothing special in my opinion.
rbtexan
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The Rangers have done a poor job of developing starting pitching. Which makes them exactly like most other teams in baseball.

If you look at it objectively and do a bit of digging, you'll find out there is literally only a handful of teams who have done it with any consistency at all. And while I think the Rangers have arguably done a worse job than most, there's a lot of teams who have struggled to do the very thing we complain about.

Being as close to the situation as we are makes it seem more of an anomaly than it actually is.
Jimbo Franchione
Tksymm7
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I think hitching our wagons to older pitchers is an entirely different conversation, at least for this year. This season the offense has been ****e, plain and simple, and that's what I'm worried about moving forward.

On one hand I don't think that Seager and Semien will have this poor of seasons often, Langford and Carter will continue to progress as pros, and it seems like we've got a real guy in Smith. On the other I really do get the sense we've seen the best from Garcia, I don't know what to think about Lowe and Heim, and we quite literally do not have a DH. Then you have Josh Jung just floating in the ether because he can't stay healthy.

We're going to have a rotation led by deGrom, followed by some combo of Mahle, Bradford, Gray, and maybe some others we sign or from the minors. While not the best, it's a good starting point.
Cappo
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this is really frustrating. 3-5 year window? We aren't even gonna make the playoffs
fc2112
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Horrific

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