***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]
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Turd Ferguson ain't it. Dude should be playing AAA.
linkdude said:Logan Gilbert vs Framber Valdez tomorrow night. That's the good stuff https://t.co/3KXyzIZFQK
— Adam Spolane (@AdamSpolane) September 24, 2024
So Framber will go 7 innings, 1-2 runs and take the loss
AgSportsFan89 said:
Pathetic approach tonight.
You mean this entire season
Hornbeck said:
Turd Ferguson ain't it. Dude should be playing AAA.
The Yankees knew exactly what they were doing when they sent us the Trojan Turd
Win the game tonight and relieve a lot of stress. A loss tonight puts a little more pressure on the Astros.
With this offense a losing streak is not impossible. Just win tonight. Would be great to not have to use the best starters against Cleveland.
With this offense a losing streak is not impossible. Just win tonight. Would be great to not have to use the best starters against Cleveland.
MosesHallRAB04 said:
Would be great to not have to use the best starters against Cleveland.
Our best starters are pitching this series so they won't be available even if needed against Cleveland.
Astros have lost 9 of their last 11 against Seattle at MMP
How that success hasn't translated against literally any other team in the league still baffles me
How that success hasn't translated against literally any other team in the league still baffles me
Hey guys, I normally don't do things like this but if you could send some prayers and good vibes my way it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go into too much detail but I'm getting some medical tests done and I'm currently in the weird waiting stage and I am beyond stressed out. Hoping for the best outcome.
texasaggie2015 said:
Hey guys, I normally don't do things like this but if you could send some prayers and good vibes my way it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go into too much detail but I'm getting some medical tests done and I'm currently in the weird waiting stage and I am beyond stressed out. Hoping for the best outcome.
Prayers lifted.
Yordan is beginning to look like Mike Trout. Immensely talented. And immensely fragile.
Prayers for you, man. Hope all turns out well.texasaggie2015 said:
Hey guys, I normally don't do things like this but if you could send some prayers and good vibes my way it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go into too much detail but I'm getting some medical tests done and I'm currently in the weird waiting stage and I am beyond stressed out. Hoping for the best outcome.
Hoping we are just being extra cautious with Yordan's knee. We need him healthy, and capable of manning left field.
I am not worried about winning one of the next two, we will get it done. Mariners gonna Mariner.
I am not worried about winning one of the next two, we will get it done. Mariners gonna Mariner.
prayers my friend, hope it all turns out for the best!Wabs said:Prayers for you, man. Hope all turns out well.texasaggie2015 said:
Hey guys, I normally don't do things like this but if you could send some prayers and good vibes my way it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go into too much detail but I'm getting some medical tests done and I'm currently in the weird waiting stage and I am beyond stressed out. Hoping for the best outcome.
Mathguy64 said:
Yordan is beginning to look like Mike Trout. Immensely talented. And immensely fragile.
Yordan is Cal Ripken Jr compared to Trout and it's not even close.
Since 2021 games played
Yordan - 144/135/114/147
Trout - 36/119/82/29
Yordan's games played numbers actually look better than I thought they were.
I dunno man...Yordan doesnt miss half to 3/4 of the season every season....Trout is literally mr glass.Mathguy64 said:
Yordan is beginning to look like Mike Trout. Immensely talented. And immensely fragile.
the answer here is simple...Win tonight to secure the division, then Yordan can rest until the WC series
Bottom line for tonight and tomorrow is 1-6 have to hit. They've got to manage 5-6 hits and they can't all be singles.
Tough ask against Gilbert, and I assume Castillo, but, it's what needs to be done. Not going to win 1 against Seattle if those guys don't show up.
Tough ask against Gilbert, and I assume Castillo, but, it's what needs to be done. Not going to win 1 against Seattle if those guys don't show up.
Just for my own curiosity I had to know.Ag_07 said:Mathguy64 said:
Yordan is beginning to look like Mike Trout. Immensely talented. And immensely fragile.
Yordan is Cal Ripken Jr compared to Trout and it's not even close.
Since 2021 games played
Yordan - 144/135/114/147
Trout - 36/119/82/29
Yordan's games played numbers actually look better than I thought they were.
Mike Trout in that span - 266 games played - $558,709/game
Yordan Alvarez in that span - 540 games played - $37,111/game
Yikes.
You just so happen to leave out the year Yordan missed entirely. Alavrez has issues. It's okay to admit it. He should be his healthiest in his 20s yet his knees fail him. There is a reason he only plays LF about 1/3 of the time and it's not just his poor defense.Ag_07 said:Mathguy64 said:
Yordan is beginning to look like Mike Trout. Immensely talented. And immensely fragile.
Yordan is Cal Ripken Jr compared to Trout and it's not even close.
Since 2021 games played
Yordan - 144/135/114/147
Trout - 36/119/82/29
Yordan's games played numbers actually look better than I thought they were.
Knowing this, we gotta give him regular rest, keep the DH spot for him, and be prepared to be without him for stretches. Maybe OF depth is more important for us than most teams.
We're 1 week from WC game 1 (assuming we don't have the all-time worst meltdown). Lets hope the knee sprain heals enough.
"Springer came to Toronto with a reputation for being one of the game’s biggest stars when it matters most, but this organization hasn’t won a postseason game in his first four seasons with the Blue Jays."
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2024
Meanwhile, the Astros have continued to win with him and Correa. https://t.co/9bniG1xukI
The Canadians are getting restless
While I didn't like the initial post (YA is my favorite), the OP may have a point. At this stage of Trouts career (first 5 years) he averaged over 150 games per year. Father Time has not been nice to him; let's hope Yordan fares better.
Jake Meyers and Chaz are available
The practical side of me knows we shouldn't/don't need to bring Springer back, but the nostalgic side of me wants him back in an Astros jersey
He came up in 2019 so didn;t include that year and 2020 was the circus COVID year so I didn't include that either.
And I agree Yordan will miss chunks of games. I have no issue with that. Hell I'll take 145 GP for Yordan every season.
My only point was Yordan doesn't miss an absurd number of games and is not near as fragile as Trout is nowadays.
And I agree Yordan will miss chunks of games. I have no issue with that. Hell I'll take 145 GP for Yordan every season.
My only point was Yordan doesn't miss an absurd number of games and is not near as fragile as Trout is nowadays.
Yeah but does George want to be back in Houston? Maybe not.
Time Machine:EastCoastAgNc said:"Springer came to Toronto with a reputation for being one of the game’s biggest stars when it matters most, but this organization hasn’t won a postseason game in his first four seasons with the Blue Jays."
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 24, 2024
Meanwhile, the Astros have continued to win with him and Correa. https://t.co/9bniG1xukI
The Canadians are getting restless
2020-21 Offseason Post
Year - wRC+ - WARQuote:
25 M for 2-3 would be fine. 25 M per year for 5-6, not so much. We need to play players for what we get not what they've done in the past.
2021 - 140 - 2.6 (only 78 games)
2022 - 133 - 4.1
2023 - 104 - 1.8
--
2024 - 94 - 1.2
If 2025 & 2026 are anything like 2024, its a boat anchor contract.
Seemed like we were too lucky with Yordan this season despite his lack of power at home for a while.
I'm glad the Astros got him for the price they did at the time.
I'm glad the Astros got him for the price they did at the time.
Fun part about last night: Hunter Brown has said watching both Bryce Miller and George Kirby throw two-seamers helped to influence his decision to incorporate one. He started throwing it May 5 against ... the Mariners while pitching against ... Miller - https://t.co/mpRmvwTJTh https://t.co/9UdyIpCGaN
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) September 24, 2024
all right, the Astros get another chance to clinch tonight
need shutout innings from Framber
the bats have struggled mightily against quality starting pitchers in recent weeks
couldn't touch Miller -- couldn't touch the Padres' starters
bring on Logan Gilbert
need shutout innings from Framber
the bats have struggled mightily against quality starting pitchers in recent weeks
couldn't touch Miller -- couldn't touch the Padres' starters
bring on Logan Gilbert
texasaggie2015 said:
Hey guys, I normally don't do things like this but if you could send some prayers and good vibes my way it would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to go into too much detail but I'm getting some medical tests done and I'm currently in the weird waiting stage and I am beyond stressed out. Hoping for the best outcome.
Praying for you!
I know we like to hate on our team because the offense always stalls vs. no-name guys with 6 ERAs, but also very elite pitching.
I tried to put some data into it.
How have we faired vs the 10 best pitching teams - per WAR for the 2nd Half
Team rankings since July 1
Overall a 99 wRC+ ain't great. When you compare us to other playoff teams, it isn't that bad either.
NYY, BAL, KCR, DET, & CLE have all done worse.
One thing to note is the discrepancy is PA vs these top 10 teams. BOS has had 1402 PA while NYY has only had 427 PA. There might be a little bit of chicken and egg going on. Maybe NYY haven't faced elite teams the 2nd half because they have hit them well enough to knock them out of the top 10.
Regardless, I think it is safe to say we have a much lower opinion of our offense than what the #s show.
Overall we're 6th in wRC+ / 10th in Runs. 2nd half we're 8th in wRC+ / 14th in Runs. Sep/Oct we're 5th in wRC+ / 4th in Runs.
I tried to put some data into it.
How have we faired vs the 10 best pitching teams - per WAR for the 2nd Half
Team rankings since July 1
Overall a 99 wRC+ ain't great. When you compare us to other playoff teams, it isn't that bad either.
NYY, BAL, KCR, DET, & CLE have all done worse.
One thing to note is the discrepancy is PA vs these top 10 teams. BOS has had 1402 PA while NYY has only had 427 PA. There might be a little bit of chicken and egg going on. Maybe NYY haven't faced elite teams the 2nd half because they have hit them well enough to knock them out of the top 10.
Regardless, I think it is safe to say we have a much lower opinion of our offense than what the #s show.
Overall we're 6th in wRC+ / 10th in Runs. 2nd half we're 8th in wRC+ / 14th in Runs. Sep/Oct we're 5th in wRC+ / 4th in Runs.
Ask him to come convince them to quit swinging at sliders in the opposite batter's box.Ciboag96 said:
Prayers up for you sir. Glad to see you posting on this thread again.
I think we are generally ok against top pitching, except at home. We get absolutely killed by guys that are either brand new in the league or are objectively terrible (ERA of 4.5+) against the rest of the league. I hope to god seeing Altuve and Bregman take some pitches and draw walks put an idea in Cintron's little pea brain that maybe the way to get to some of these high end pitchers is to take pitches, drive up the pitch count, and maybe, just maybe to stop trying to pull outside sliders into the Crawford Boxes. Fouling off pitches to get a chance to see something better seems like a lost art by our hitters, along with walking and bunting.Farmer1906 said:
I know we like to hate on our team because the offense always stalls vs. no-name guys with 6 ERAs, but also very elite pitching.
I tried to put some data into it.
How have we faired vs the 10 best pitching teams - per WAR for the 2nd Half
Team rankings since July 1
Overall a 99 wRC+ ain't great. When you compare us to other playoff teams, it isn't that bad either.
NYY, BAL, KCR, DET, & CLE have all done worse.
One thing to note is the discrepancy is PA vs these top 10 teams. BOS has had 1402 PA while NYY has only had 427 PA. There might be a little bit of chicken and egg going on. Maybe NYY haven't faced elite teams the 2nd half because they have hit them well enough to knock them out of the top 10.
Regardless, I think it is safe to say we have a much lower opinion of our offense than what the #s show.
Overall we're 6th in wRC+ / 10th in Runs. 2nd half we're 8th in wRC+ / 14th in Runs. Sep/Oct we're 5th in wRC+ / 4th in Runs.
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