***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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In reply to AggiEE • 11:20a, 7/6/24
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My guy it was literally inches off the plate inside and barely made it over the fence

I'm convinced you're trolling and I gotta tip my cap you got me for a while
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:21a, 7/6/24
texasaggie2015 said:
My guy it was literally inches off the plate inside


Yeah and it should have been inches off the plate low and outside instead

He gives up homers left and right. Nobody is getting fooled by his 97 mph fastball with no movement
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:21a, 7/6/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
And again… the home run to Correa was just a great hitter hitting an almost impossible pitch. Sometimes you have to tip your cap.


You'd think Astros fans would understand this with Altuve on our team
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11:21a, 7/6/24
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Yeah I'm done with this argument. Truly bizarre
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:22a, 7/6/24
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Some people will go down with the ship.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:23a, 7/6/24
texasaggie2015 said:
Yeah I'm done with this argument. Truly bizarre


Truly bizarre nobody could be disappointed with our "elite" 95M closer
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In reply to AggiEE • 11:23a, 7/6/24
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Beau Holder said:
"Save conversions isn't the whole story" of a closer right after referencing ERA and ignoring all the advanced stats is sure a position.


Yeah I would care about a closer being able to convert games when we're not ahead by multiple runs, like in the playoffs.

He gives up a massive amount of homers
Hader on his career has given up a homer for about every 8 innings pitched (52 HR over 427 innings). Don't know if that is high or not, but seems like a pretty high number.
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In reply to Beau Holder • 11:23a, 7/6/24
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And not even taking into account that we had a 8(?) run lead at the beginning of the inning and he had to RUSH to get loose. He was thrown in a bad situation.

We won the freaking game for crying out loud
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11:24a, 7/6/24
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I wish you guys would stop arguing with the board guru. He's spoken. Now shut the **** up with your "different opinions" please.
Life is better with a beagle
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In reply to AggiEE • 11:25a, 7/6/24
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He's been very very good since mid-April my friend. That ERA you keep pointing out is inflated because he had a rough start which is very common in relievers as they get ramped up. Pull up the numbers since 5/1 if you can
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11:25a, 7/6/24
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Out: A pitcher's advanced metrics and peripherals telling a very clear story that even most of his basic counting stats agree with.

In: A closer's ERA being more important than whether he closes games.

Elite troll job.
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11:29a, 7/6/24
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:29a, 7/6/24
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Me?
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11:32a, 7/6/24
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough

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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 11:33a, 7/6/24
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It's a good thing we're taking care of business now. Hopefully we'll be healthy
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In reply to Ag_07 • 11:34a, 7/6/24
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ERA isn't the whole story. It certainly works for your narrative but it's not the end all be all.

If he's not blowing saves IDGAF how many runs he gives up.
Agreed. I didn't like the signing but he's been solid. Not like he's bullpen Jose Abreu.
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 11:36a, 7/6/24
All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough

Yeah I brought that up a month or so ago. This team needs to be in the division lead by the end of August but I think that's realistic.
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 11:39a, 7/6/24
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All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough



That is rough but a lot can angels between now and then. I expect the Rangers & Rays to have been sellers at the deadline. The White Sox on still going to be ass. The Royals aren't built for the long term.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:42a, 7/6/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
And not even taking into account that we had a 8(?) run lead at the beginning of the inning and he had to RUSH to get loose. He was thrown in a bad situation.


This is getting overlooked big time.

With an 8 run lead in the 9th I imagine the closer starts to check out then all of a sudden he's got to get to get warm and come into a bases loaded situation facing the hottest hitter in the majors.

That's not easy.

He gave it up but at the end of the day he is paid for saving games and that's exactly what he did.
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 11:45a, 7/6/24
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All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough



If we can manage 9-6 for that first 15 game stretch I think we will be fine and it's doable

2-1 vs TB
2-1 @ TEX
3-3 on the Boston/TB road trip
2-1 vs CWS
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:48a, 7/6/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
Me?

Yeah, not sure what inspired that remark.

Any update on LMJ?
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11:49a, 7/6/24
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 11:53a, 7/6/24
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Julia maybe needs to fix that. Because we can imagine a lot of bad things with Jose's hand.
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In reply to tjack16 • 11:54a, 7/6/24
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We're also a better team than a month ago. The teams in August probably won't want to play us, especially if we have multiple starters plus Tucker back.
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In reply to iamtheglove • 11:56a, 7/6/24
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iamtheglove said:
Astros hierarchy of reported injury:

1. "Scheduled day off" = out 3-5 days
2. "Discomfort" = out 2-4 weeks
3. "Contusion, Neck Pain or the use of the word Gimpy" = out 1-3 months
4. "Bruise" = out 3+ months
5. "Mild Strain" = out 6-12 months, likely Tommy John surgery
6. "Tweaked it" = out 1 to 2 years on rehab
7. "Couldn't move it/put any weight on it" = retiring from baseball

What's day-to-day... 6 weeks?
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In reply to Marvin • 11:56a, 7/6/24
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Nah nothing new.

And yeah, I don't know what inspired that remark either. Not the first time. Sorry if I'm coming across as an ass again. Not my intention- just debating like several others are.
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In reply to Marvin • 12:00p, 7/6/24
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Marvin said:
iamtheglove said:
Astros hierarchy of reported injury:

1. "Scheduled day off" = out 3-5 days
2. "Discomfort" = out 2-4 weeks
3. "Contusion, Neck Pain or the use of the word Gimpy" = out 1-3 months
4. "Bruise" = out 3+ months
5. "Mild Strain" = out 6-12 months, likely Tommy John surgery
6. "Tweaked it" = out 1 to 2 years on rehab
7. "Couldn't move it/put any weight on it" = retiring from baseball

What's day-to-day... 6 weeks?


Day to day is out for at least 2 weeks but also available off the bench if needed.
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In reply to tjack16 • 12:01p, 7/6/24
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tjack16 said:
All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough


I see us going 16-12 in August. Hopefully better though
If we can manage 9-6 for that first 15 game stretch I think we will be fine and it's doable

2-1 vs TB
2-1 @ TEX
3-3 on the Boston/TB road trip
2-1 vs CWS
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In reply to tjack16 • 12:03p, 7/6/24
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tjack16 said:
All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough




If we can manage 9-6 for that first 15 game stretch I think we will be fine and it's doable

2-1 vs TB
2-1 @ TEX
3-3 on the Boston/TB road trip
2-1 vs CWS


I see us going 16-12. But hopefully better with Tucker back in the lineup.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 12:09p, 7/6/24
Farmer1906 said:
All I do is Nguyen said:
Not trying to look ahead but oof, august is gonna be rough



That is rough but a lot can angels between now and then. I expect the Rangers & Rays to have been sellers at the deadline. The White Sox on still going to be ass. The Royals aren't built for the long term.


In my opinion, the way they are playing currently feels like their typical dominate self and I have zero lack of confidence they can beat all of those teams.
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12:14p, 7/6/24
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View from the seats today. Wrigley Field. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim of Orange County of California @ Chicago Cubs.

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12:16p, 7/6/24
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12:17p, 7/6/24
Astros are walking too much of a tightrope right now for me to worry about the dog days of August. We had enough to deal with already; now teams can't not hit our players. I've been critical of Espada at times, but he's had to navigate a rough road often. That doesn't even include working for Crane.

As for Hader, besides giving up some homers he's mostly balled out. Not to mention putting to bed all the stuff about only pitching one inning. He's earning his paycheck.

Pressly has quietly turned it around as well. We're gonna need him down the stretch as much as anyone.
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12:40p, 7/6/24
Altuve out? Dubon performs his best taking over for Altuve. See beginning of last season.

But lucky for us, Grae Kessinger is available.
"H-A: In return for the flattery, can you reduce the size of your signature? It's the only part of your posts that don't add value. In its' place, just put "I'm an investing savant, and make no apologies for it", as oldarmy1 would do."
- I Bleed Maroon (distracted easily by signatures)
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In reply to BadAggie • 12:50p, 7/6/24
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That's awesome. Drink a beer for me
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