***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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In reply to tjack16 • 1:58p, 6/19/24
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There is plenty of blame to go around. The players that were healthy mostly underperformed. But we were no near full strength either.

In no way was the SP not a problem as well.

SP in Mar/April
5.10 ERA 27th
4.23 FIP 20th
4.57 xFIP 28th
1.50 WHIP 29th
10.2% K-BB% 27th
1.7 WAR 22nd
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1:59p, 6/19/24
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First 30 games of the season (10-20)

we scored 3 runs or less in 17 of the 30. Not ideal.


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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:00p, 6/19/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
I agree that Dana Brown will deserve blame if Espada doesn't work out, which is exactly what I said in my post.

I just think it's foolish to say he deserves 100% of the blame when ultimately Espada isn't performing. He checked the boxes and it made all the sense in the world on paper. But sometimes things don't work out.

Without fully knowing what's going on in that locker room, a lot of this might not be Espada at all. I'm really not sure, but it's no secret he hasn't been perfect. At the same time, he's been dealt a pretty ****ty hand as a first year manager faced with all these injuries.

That's why I'm not calling for his head or saying he should take full responsibility. If it happened again, then yeah, my opinion of him might change some. But for now, I don't think any less of him for this one.

Just my honest opinion and that's why I said "some". Hope that makes sense.

"Agreed" was the first word in my response. We are splitting hairs at this point, haha.
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2:04p, 6/19/24
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Y'all are just arguing in circles.

Fact is there's no one answer or reason why this team is where they are now.

Slow start offensively
Injuries to the pitching staff
Shaky back end of the pen
Rookie manager
Meddling owner
The black hole that was Jose Abreu

And honestly probably a few more.

Fact is it's an entire organization problem and it needs to get fixed. Not sure there's anything to do to salvage this season but that's where it needs to stop. Don't let this bad run snowball into a tailspin.

Grind it out this season, let the chips fall where they may, and see what happens then start fresh in 2025.
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2:06p, 6/19/24
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This was the stretch right here that IMO we will look back on as the difference

Go 5-4 instead of 1-8 over that stretch and you would be sitting above .500 right now at 37-36

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:09p, 6/19/24
The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
hey gents, another hypothetical.

If you could have traded Jose Abreu and Alvarez (zero retained salary) for Bryce Harper (25% retained salary) would you have done it?
How many times a day do I get to punch Bryce Harper in the face in this deal?
It has worked out well so far in OOTP, saved a bunch of Money unloading all of the 19.5 of Abreu, and also got the phillies to toss in Matt Strahm which gave me lefty specialist.

Alvarez only played in 30 games after he broke a bone in his elbow and was put on the IL for 5 months; Harper played 1B and slahed 277/370/474 putting up 4.5 WAR and Strahmy pitched 44.2 innings of 2.70 ERA work.
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2:16p, 6/19/24
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Espada could still be a really good coach. Hinch didn't do as well in his first head coaching gig but he did great for us.
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2:17p, 6/19/24
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Soooo what's going on with Tucker?
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In reply to Chef Elko • 2:23p, 6/19/24
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Chef Elko said:
Soooo what's going on with Tucker?
Took the leg just below the knee.
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In reply to Serviam • 2:24p, 6/19/24
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Serviam said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
hey gents, another hypothetical.

If you could have traded Jose Abreu and Alvarez (zero retained salary) for Bryce Harper (25% retained salary) would you have done it?
How many times a day do I get to punch Bryce Harper in the face in this deal?
It has worked out well so far in OOTP, saved a bunch of Money unloading all of the 19.5 of Abreu, and also got the phillies to toss in Matt Strahm which gave me lefty specialist.

Alvarez only played in 30 games after he broke a bone in his elbow and was put on the IL for 5 months; Harper played 1B and slahed 277/370/474 putting up 4.5 WAR and Strahmy pitched 44.2 innings of 2.70 ERA work.
No matter how many times it is explained to me, I'm never not going to think you are talking about Harry Potter.

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In reply to tjack16 • 2:25p, 6/19/24
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You need to put a warning label on this post, man. Kids might see this and freak out.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:31p, 6/19/24
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Pork I mean this in a completely joking manner

Where, how far does your nerdery reach!?! Not all go so fast into Star Wars and also see a random assortment of letters and immediately jump to Harry Potter. Even after you said it I didn't get the connection.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 2:42p, 6/19/24
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Pork I mean this in a completely joking manner

Where, how far does your nerdery reach!?! Not all go so fast into Star Wars and also see a random assortment of letters and immediately jump to Harry Potter. Even after you said it I didn't get the connection.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:43p, 6/19/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
hey gents, another hypothetical.

If you could have traded Jose Abreu and Alvarez (zero retained salary) for Bryce Harper (25% retained salary) would you have done it?
How many times a day do I get to punch Bryce Harper in the face in this deal?
It has worked out well so far in OOTP, saved a bunch of Money unloading all of the 19.5 of Abreu, and also got the phillies to toss in Matt Strahm which gave me lefty specialist.

Alvarez only played in 30 games after he broke a bone in his elbow and was put on the IL for 5 months; Harper played 1B and slahed 277/370/474 putting up 4.5 WAR and Strahmy pitched 44.2 innings of 2.70 ERA work.
No matter how many times it is explained to me, I'm never not going to think you are talking about Harry Potter.



Wife and I are rewatching all of them and that was last night's movie. Half blood prince is next which is my least favorite of the movies but favorite of the books
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 2:46p, 6/19/24
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Pork I mean this in a completely joking manner

Where, how far does your nerdery reach!?! Not all go so fast into Star Wars and also see a random assortment of letters and immediately jump to Harry Potter. Even after you said it I didn't get the connection.
No, that's a nice question, I've had a rough few days on Texags, I appreciate the levity.

Honestly the worst part of is all is that Star Wars is only my #2 nerd factory. #1 is the Dark Tower books by Stephen King (but don't mention that ******* movie they made). I've read those books about 15-20 times each and in 2005 I spent $350 on a Dark Tower tattoo.

I could write a 1,000 word essay about basically anything from Star Wars other than a few bad cartoons in like 15 minutes - other than critcizing them of course.

Harry Potter I've read probably 10 times each and just absorbed that world.

LOTR - the books and the movies

Game of Thrones - the books and the TV show. I saw GGRM talk at Rudder back in 2013

Battlestar Galactica, the newer one, and by new I mean 2004 lol.

I'm sure there are 30-50 other avenues I'm not able to remember at present. I'm also doing a series of Rewatchble movies on the ENT board based on Bill Simmons' podcast of the same name. #5 will be out this week. I plan on doing 100 of them, so yeah, I've got some issues.
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In reply to tjack16 • 2:48p, 6/19/24
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tjack16 said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Serviam said:
hey gents, another hypothetical.

If you could have traded Jose Abreu and Alvarez (zero retained salary) for Bryce Harper (25% retained salary) would you have done it?
How many times a day do I get to punch Bryce Harper in the face in this deal?
It has worked out well so far in OOTP, saved a bunch of Money unloading all of the 19.5 of Abreu, and also got the phillies to toss in Matt Strahm which gave me lefty specialist.

Alvarez only played in 30 games after he broke a bone in his elbow and was put on the IL for 5 months; Harper played 1B and slahed 277/370/474 putting up 4.5 WAR and Strahmy pitched 44.2 innings of 2.70 ERA work.
No matter how many times it is explained to me, I'm never not going to think you are talking about Harry Potter.



Wife and I are rewatching all of them and that was last night's movie. Half blood prince is next which is my least favorite of the movies but favorite of the books
How they didn't include the scene where Voldy applies for the job at Hogwarts from Dumbledore's memory in the movie is a crime against humanity.

Here's a picture of Harry Spillman, who has the first name a Harry Potter, to make this board-relevant.

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:51p, 6/19/24
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That scene not being there and the Gaunt's omission are what really stand out to me. Best book in the series IMO and the movie really fell flat. I have similar feeling for Goblet of Fire as well
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2:52p, 6/19/24
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You know the Astros are bad when we're talking about Harry Potter on June 19th when there's a game tonight
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:53p, 6/19/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
You know the Astros are bad when we're talking about Harry Potter on June 19th when there's a game tonight


Yes game tonight … sorry. BTHO Florida

Oh wait is there another game on?
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3:02p, 6/19/24
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2024 season to date:



I remember thinking how the F the Padres couldn't win jack last year with all that talent. The 2024 Astros have answered that.

Injuries are a cop out. No reason this team couldn't survive a couple bad starts. Astro starters have performed well overall. It's the bullpen and offense which are primary culprits.

That being said…there's still time and I expect Crane is not going to bail yet on this season.
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3:06p, 6/19/24
I still think it's too early to call Espada a failure. The two biggest issues people have are sticking with Pressly and keeping Abreu in the lineup. The reality is he was never going to get rid of Abreu if he didn't let him play. Hiding him in the bench all but a few games a week would just prolong the madness. As for Pressly, the advanced stats would tell you he's been very unlucky. Add in the fact he had to pitch some time (the 7th isn't magically easier than the 8th) and it's really not some obviously bad decision. People think Bregman has some hex that keeps him from hitting in the top 4 but that's just ridiculous nonsense.

Long story short, I'd be fine with bringing in Tito but I don't think this is some huge black mark against Dana, especially since we don't know the other options that were available. We'd probably have Ausmus managing if Crane and the former player clowns had their way.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:18p, 6/19/24
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Least and Most favorite full length Hollywood production? Takes out cartoons and Disney+ series.

After this I'll drop it and move on.

Also Gig 'em AgStros, beat the Florida Sox

Edit to add wife and I are rewatching HotD before we watch the new season and she's very displeased tonight will be a baseball only evening. Last night we watched 2 episodes after the Astros game, same the night before after the Aggies
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 3:28p, 6/19/24
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is a full-length hollywood production mean a movie? Star Wars or everything?
Sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:30p, 6/19/24
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Yes of the 10 Hollywood Star Wars movies
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3:31p, 6/19/24
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Can we talk about Jose Abreu again?
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3:32p, 6/19/24
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Speaking of baseball… found these gems in scrapbooks today





And my ticket stub for my first Astros game
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In reply to tjack16 • 3:37p, 6/19/24
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tjack16 said:
Speaking of baseball… found these gems in scrapbooks today





And my ticket stub for my first Astros game
My reaction to all tales of TJack's youth.




SW final answer: best is #4, worst is #2
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3:44p, 6/19/24
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I'll play. Here's an old picture I found of my sister and me at one of the early 90's Buddies Club events.
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In reply to spadilly • 3:46p, 6/19/24
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spadilly said:
I'll play. Here's an old picture I found of my sister and me at one of the early 90's Buddies Club events.


I recognize Shane Reynolds, but not the other.
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tjack16 said:
Speaking of baseball… found these gems in scrapbooks today





And my ticket stub for my first Astros game

Fully expected a scrap cutting of THE jeans. I miss their powers
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In reply to superaggie73 • 3:51p, 6/19/24
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Is that Ed Taubensee?

If I'm right, I'll be a little impressed with myself considering I was born in 1992...
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3:52p, 6/19/24
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In our 40 losses this year we have averaged 2.1 runs. The most runs we've scored in a loss is 8 once, 7 twice and 5 once. 4 games out of 40 we scored 5 or more and lost, to pull the average up to 2 point 1.

Shutout 3 times.

I don't know how that compares to the rest of the league, but that's not really a starting pitching problem.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 3:55p, 6/19/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
Is that Ed Taubensee?

If I'm right, I'll be a little impressed with myself considering I was born in 1992...


I've always hated Taubensee for no other reason than we stupidly gave up Kenny Lofton for him.
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3:56p, 6/19/24
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I also saw OOTP in that above post and thought of Harry Potter
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