***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:05p, 6/14/24
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I was just setting it up for you to do your thing
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 3:06p, 6/14/24
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You're too good to me.
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In reply to Beat40 • 3:07p, 6/14/24
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Beat40 said:


So, I think there is some disconnect. While I don't think Abreu is any good anymore, there is a difference between when a baseball guy evaluates a player and a fan evaluates a player.

How many times have you heard a former baseball player say a hitter is close based on what they are seeing and within a week the player breaks out? The fan just sees the outs and says this guy is sucking. This situation happens ALL the time.

So, you can't just say because Espada said he's looking better or hitting the ball better, or whatever he says that he's lying. Despite his bad play since coming back, he has hit some balls well over 100+mph.

Point is, baseball guys and fans evaluations are usually different.
score a big one -- a really big one -- for the fans

they nailed the Abreu situation
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3:08p, 6/14/24
Brown/presser on 790 saying he led the process of Abreu's DFA

- Jon will get most of the ABs
- Dubon will play more at 1B
- Loperfido probably back up by 21st, may get some 1B opportunities
- not looking to trade more prospects for rentals
- doesn't like signing guys until age 38 and older (asked about Tucker i think)
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3:10p, 6/14/24
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Doobie getting the start at 1B tonight. I guess that's an option we'll see more often. I remember several on here calling for this in April.
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In reply to Wabs • 3:14p, 6/14/24
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Doobie getting the start at 1B tonight. I guess that's an option we'll see more often. I remember several on here calling for this in April.
I'd rather see Loperfido most days, but this is at least a step in the right direction.
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3:15p, 6/14/24
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Yeah, they'll give him some starts there until they make an addition. They don't want him there long term.
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In reply to Wabs • 3:16p, 6/14/24
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Doobie getting the start at 1B tonight. I guess that's an option we'll see more often. I remember several on here calling for this in April.
That's my dog. Shame he's too valuable to trade but not valuable enough to play more.
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3:18p, 6/14/24
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whoa, Skubal has a 1.92 ERA in 79 innings
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In reply to W • 3:20p, 6/14/24
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He's one of the best in the league. Really fun to watch
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3:25p, 6/14/24
Does the Abreu release send a message to the team that people need to get their **** together or they too can be on the chopping block?

Obvious exceptions like Altuve, Tucker etc don't count
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 3:25p, 6/14/24
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No one else really makes sense.
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Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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3:27p, 6/14/24
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I'm ready for Tucker to be back
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3:27p, 6/14/24
Please get healthy soon, Tuck.
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In reply to tjack16 • 3:30p, 6/14/24
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tjack16 said:
I heard he tried to throw a baseball at him, but lost the grip on it while picking it up and booted it towards 2nd base.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:31p, 6/14/24
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You're too good to me.


Get a room guys
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3:33p, 6/14/24
I feel a breakout game for the offense today.... which against this pitcher would be 3-4 runs.
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3:38p, 6/14/24
I do want to say that I hope that Abreu gets whatever help he needs for whatever is ailing him. Whether it's mental, or mechanics I hope he does well. Just not against us
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In reply to W • 3:39p, 6/14/24
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Beat40 said:


So, I think there is some disconnect. While I don't think Abreu is any good anymore, there is a difference between when a baseball guy evaluates a player and a fan evaluates a player.

How many times have you heard a former baseball player say a hitter is close based on what they are seeing and within a week the player breaks out? The fan just sees the outs and says this guy is sucking. This situation happens ALL the time.

So, you can't just say because Espada said he's looking better or hitting the ball better, or whatever he says that he's lying. Despite his bad play since coming back, he has hit some balls well over 100+mph.

Point is, baseball guys and fans evaluations are usually different.
score a big one -- a really big one -- for the fans

they nailed the Abreu situation
You missed the entire point of what I was saying and the entire conversation.

Everyone knew he was terrible, but that's not what the conversation was about.
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 3:40p, 6/14/24
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Guy is getting $30M to not play baseball, kind of like a college coach I know for a higher sum. Just retire!
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In reply to Chef Elko • 3:42p, 6/14/24
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Abreu is going to land somewhere and then get on the sauce
I wish he would've juiced while in Houston. My official opinion is he was the worse the Astros have ever handed out. And I'll be the first to admit I was excited about getting him last year. Granted, I never watched the white Sox and didn't know a ton about the back of his baseball card
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:45p, 6/14/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
He started hot but he was horrendous in Boston. I would stick with what we have and be looking at the trade market if it's me.
Not me. I would 100% go get him and platoon him with Singleton.

Check the vs LHP #s


If you take Cooper's .377 xwOBA vs LHP and add it to Singleton's .352 xwOBA vs RHP then you have ~.360 xwOBA hitter at 1B the majority of the time. That would rank 8th in baseball for 1B just behind guys like Pasquantino & Naylor.

Then use the prospect capital to get arms.

What do you have to lose?
The more I think about this, the more obvious it is. We can go from near the bottom of baseball to top 10 by using league minimum guys. That perfectly counteracts the wasted money on Abreu. Unless we're 99% sure we're going to get Alonso we'd be stupid not to. And even then Alonso is 13th in xwOBA. This combo would be better based on expected data.
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In reply to cc10106 • 3:45p, 6/14/24
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Will Astros fans give Crane a standing ovation before today's game?
they should give him a kick in the ass for his horrendous signing.
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Life is better with a beagle
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3:52p, 6/14/24
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If this team had its head on straight, Hummel could have been called up 2 days ago and played his first game 3 miles from Alcatraz.



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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:57p, 6/14/24
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Given your thread on the ET, you have a chubby right now don't you?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:05p, 6/14/24
Farmer1906 said:
Farmer1906 said:
texasaggie2015 said:
He started hot but he was horrendous in Boston. I would stick with what we have and be looking at the trade market if it's me.
Not me. I would 100% go get him and platoon him with Singleton.

Check the vs LHP #s


If you take Cooper's .377 xwOBA vs LHP and add it to Singleton's .352 xwOBA vs RHP then you have ~.360 xwOBA hitter at 1B the majority of the time. That would rank 8th in baseball for 1B just behind guys like Pasquantino & Naylor.

Then use the prospect capital to get arms.

What do you have to lose?
The more I think about this, the more obvious it is. We can go from near the bottom of baseball to top 10 by using league minimum guys. That perfectly counteracts the wasted money on Abreu. Unless we're 99% sure we're going to get Alonso we'd be stupid not to. And even then Alonso is 13th in xwOBA. This combo would be better based on expected data.


Ooh, ooh, I know! We could call it "Astroball!"
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In reply to cc10106 • 4:11p, 6/14/24
cc10106 said:
Brown/presser on 790 saying he led the process of Abreu's DFA

- Jon will get most of the ABs
- Dubon will play more at 1B
- Loperfido probably back up by 21st, may get some 1B opportunities
- not looking to trade more prospects for rentals
- doesn't like signing guys until age 38 and older (asked about Tucker i think)
I didn't hear the audio but those bullets are the most GM sounding Brown has sounded since becoming GM. Maybe he's finally winning some influence? Fingers crossed.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:15p, 6/14/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Am I the only one who hates dubon?

I have no idea how he is on a major league roster


Wow, whoever said this is one handsome dip****
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