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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 1:38p, 6/4/24
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Anyone think there's a chance the Pirates deal Skenes for a kings ransom this deadline?


Why would they? They have him for 6 more years minimum. That would be the dumbest thing to do to their fanbase
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 1:39p, 6/4/24
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Anyone think there's a chance the Pirates deal Skenes for a kings ransom this deadline?


I don't think they'd trade him for our entire farm system.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:39p, 6/4/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Give us these 5 and maybe we can talk.

Ha. Painter, Caba and Miller are musts but the issue with them is outside Painter all their guys are a few years away. You'd really have to commit to a rebuild and I just don't see that happening. Maybe if we get Schwarber back to help with the loss of Tucker's bat it could work.
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In reply to MaxPower • 1:42p, 6/4/24
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MaxPower said:
Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Give us these 5 and maybe we can talk.

Ha. Painter, Caba and Miller are musts but the issue with them is outside Painter all their guys are a few years away. You'd really have to commit to a rebuild and I just don't see that happening. Maybe if we get Schwarber back to help with the loss of Tucker's bat it could work.


Trading Tucker is about as committing to the rebuild is as possible.
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1:43p, 6/4/24
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Philly needs an outfielder. Chas is from Philly. It makes so much sense for both sides depending on what the Phils can offer us.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 1:48p, 6/4/24
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texasaggie2015 said:
Philly needs an outfielder. Chas is from Philly. It makes so much sense for both sides depending on what the Phils can offer us.
Would only make sense..... he did rip their hearts out 2 years ago
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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1:48p, 6/4/24
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And yet Joey remains down... Make it make sense
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:54p, 6/4/24
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Farmer1906 said:
MaxPower said:
Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Give us these 5 and maybe we can talk.

Ha. Painter, Caba and Miller are musts but the issue with them is outside Painter all their guys are a few years away. You'd really have to commit to a rebuild and I just don't see that happening. Maybe if we get Schwarber back to help with the loss of Tucker's bat it could work.


Trading Tucker is about as committing to the rebuild is as possible.



They are likely not re-signing him this offseason. Playoffs are out of the question. Why wouldn't you trade him?
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1:54p, 6/4/24
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So we are capable of sending Kessinger down… interesting.

Sorry Loperfido… you're .300 batting average and us playing well while you were up mean nothing.
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In reply to 1876er • 1:56p, 6/4/24
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Because if you want to compete in 2025 you want him on your roster.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 1:57p, 6/4/24
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Because if you want to compete in 2025 you want him on your roster.
It depends what you can get back for him. If you can get someone's top prospect outfielder as a part of a larger prospect package that's on the cusp of making the majors, then maybe you don't.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 1:58p, 6/4/24
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The only thing I can think of is it's just for a couple days and they want to save Joey's options or service time. I'm really not sure, just spit balling possibilities.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:02p, 6/4/24
EastCoastAgNc said:
texasaggie2015 said:
Because if you want to compete in 2025 you want him on your roster.
It depends what you can get back for him. If you can get someone's top prospect outfielder as a part of a larger prospect package that's on the cusp of making the majors, then maybe you don't.
This is my thought but the Phillies aren't a fit for that. The Orioles (Mayo and Hjerstad) or the Twins (Lee, Rodriguez) make more sense.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 2:05p, 6/4/24
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Anyone think there's a chance the Pirates deal Skenes for a kings ransom this deadline?
No way in hell.
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2:10p, 6/4/24
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I just never know with the pirates. I'd like to think they aren't that stupid but they are very poorly ran.

I mean they could possibly get multiple mob ready guys in return and some younger guys. It would probably take a multi team deal
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 2:11p, 6/4/24
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Yeah, there's a less than zero chance they deal Skenes.
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In reply to Lonestar_Ag09 • 2:23p, 6/4/24
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Anyone think there's a chance the Pirates deal Skenes for a kings ransom this deadline?
You just want Rally Livvy Dunne don't you?

Can't say I blame you though
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 2:26p, 6/4/24
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All I do is Nguyen said:
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Anyone think there's a chance the Pirates deal Skenes for a kings ransom this deadline?
You just want Rally Livvy Dunne don't you?

For the record I'm not saying trade him to us. I was meaning period.

But I have no qualms about rally livvy. https://instagr.am/p/C7fRnOFP6Wr

https://instagr.am/p/C69a0I3vyxQ
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2:29p, 6/4/24
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I don't think they would but it wouldn't be all that crazy if they did.

Skenes' value will probably never be as high as it is right now and given the injury bug we're seeing nowadays and his violent mechanics it's probably just a matter of time before he's on the operating table.

I'd listen
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In reply to MaxPower • 2:38p, 6/4/24
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MaxPower said:
Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Give us these 5 and maybe we can talk.

Ha. Painter, Caba and Miller are musts but the issue with them is outside Painter all their guys are a few years away. You'd really have to commit to a rebuild and I just don't see that happening. Maybe if we get Schwarber back to help with the loss of Tucker's bat it could work.
Schwarber would not be an upgrade over anyone on this team except Abreu.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:38p, 6/4/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:
Fire Josh Miller.
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2:39p, 6/4/24
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And that's WITH Pressly and his issues.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:40p, 6/4/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:



Take out pressly and how low is it
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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In reply to Booma94 • 2:40p, 6/4/24
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I mean, he's a lot better than both of our first baseman, but I get what you mean.
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In reply to Booma94 • 2:47p, 6/4/24
Booma94 said:
MaxPower said:
Farmer1906 said:
EastCoastAgNc said:
Give us these 5 and maybe we can talk.

Ha. Painter, Caba and Miller are musts but the issue with them is outside Painter all their guys are a few years away. You'd really have to commit to a rebuild and I just don't see that happening. Maybe if we get Schwarber back to help with the loss of Tucker's bat it could work.
Schwarber would not be an upgrade over anyone on this team except Abreu.
As a hitter, he's better than everyone but Altuve, Yordan and Tucker. Meyers has been better this year but I'd give the track record to Schwarber. Bizarrely for a slow guy he's actually an above average baserunner.

Really the question is if you think he can play 1B (sucked there in his last experiment with the Sox) or Yordan can be an everyday LF.
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In reply to MaxPower • 2:49p, 6/4/24
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Meyers has been better this year but I'd give the track record to Schwarber.

Wait...So now we're giving the benefit of the doubt to the back of baseball cards?
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In reply to Ag_07 • 2:51p, 6/4/24
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I don't think they would but it wouldn't be all that crazy if they did.

Skenes' value will probably never be as high as it is right now and given the injury bug we're seeing nowadays and his violent mechanics it's probably just a matter of time before he's on the operating table.

I'd listen

I don't see his mechanics as being "violent." In fact, he looks really smooth and controlled for having the kind of velo he does. It helps being 6'6" 245.
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In reply to Ag_07 • 2:52p, 6/4/24
Ha, I'm just not going to ignore someone who has been consistently good for years (including this year) for a guy who has been a little better for a few months with a track record of meh.
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In reply to EastCoastAgNc • 2:53p, 6/4/24
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EastCoastAgNc said:


And amazingly close to a 500 record during that time window. Mind numbing
"It's just another corps trip boys, we'll march in behind the band"
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2:58p, 6/4/24
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Maybe in four years, we could trade the equivalent of Feliz, Musgrove, and Moran for Skenes.
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2:58p, 6/4/24
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I' d trade for Schwarber just for that time he went ape **** on Angel Hernandez

Hader's face is pretty great as he walks off the mound after getting a terrible 3rd strike

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 2:59p, 6/4/24
Not that it matters this year but Schwarber is also a stud in the playoffs.
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In reply to Deluxe • 3:00p, 6/4/24
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Deluxe said:
Maybe in four years, we could trade the equivalent of Feliz, Musgrove, and Moran for Skenes.
Would you take 10 years of Skenes pitching for the Astros or 10 years of his GF ending you a selfie every morning?
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In reply to MaxPower • 3:01p, 6/4/24
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MaxPower said:
Not that it matters this year but Schwarber is also a stud in the playoffs.

He can make a hell of a bunt attempt with two strikes if you need him to
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