This team needs to at least start playing .500 baseball. Keep the deficit where it is and then start to chisel away, hoping for a stretch or two of good baseball.

Another 2-8 stretch of games, and Dana needs to start listening to offers.

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So this team gets swept by the Cubs, splits with the Rockies and comes back home ****ting their britches after some bad Mexican water and gets curb stomped by the best record in the AL Guardians, Mariners who they can't hit on their best day and we'll all get to watch the Yankees put us down for the count in early May

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Gonna be a rough couple weeks amigos but I've been known to be wrong before

Happy Garrett Cooper day!***

***Zero knowledge, might not be for the Astros but almost certainly someone picked him up, right?

I'm sitting here this morning wondering why Hunter Brown has sucked so much. His fastball is getting destroyed, but not as much as his curveball...which should be a weapon for him.

redline248 said:

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I'm sitting here this morning wondering why Hunter Brown has sucked so much. His fastball is getting destroyed, but not as much as his curveball...which should be a weapon for him.

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It was happening toward the end of last year as well. I remember his last few starts being pretty shaky. Was hoping he was just tired from more use, but it seems that hitters have figured him out.

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These tweets are pretty sobering.

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No one saw this coming. Our struggles down the stretch last season are well noted, but that did not foreshadow starting pitching injuries, the back end of bullpen sucking, or Bregman not producing. Hell, there weren't even signs that Abreu would fall off a cliff, as that was when he started to actually be somewhat productive.

To look back at last season and try to say we should have seen this coming is a ridiculous take.

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I don't think that's what he's saying. He's just noting that we've been about a .500 club for a pretty long time now, and we haven't played the quality of baseball we'll need to play to dig out of this huge hole in a long time. Hopefully we do but there's no reason to deny what we've been for almost a year now.

The glaring question is will Bregman turn it around? Surely he isn't turning into a bum this soon...

Did he say heads will roll or moves would be made (sell)?

Right. He's just oversimplifying it by focusing on record alone. In our last 60 or so games in '21, we were just a few games over .500 and then went 7-9 in the playoffs, losing the World Series. That meant nothing come '22 where we won 106 games and the WS. And we had even lost Correa to free agency and McCullers to injury.

Fun to look back at to try to explain what we're seeing now, but there weren't any indicators of such a monumental collapse. I think everyone had tempered expectations and knew the door was closing, but no one expected it to slam shut in our face.

The pitching has been getting hit so hard, I kinda wonder if our catchers are doing something to give away the pitch before it comes (location / type). I know the pitchers just plain suck too, but it's so consistent that it makes ya wonder if there's an additional cause.

For the record, I don't this this is a door slamming shut season. This is a team experiencing a combination of fluky bad events, a collection of players who are significantly underperforming their historical trends, injuries and some poor offseason decisions to add a closer at the expense of middle relief depth.

And Jose Abreu.

Blanco and Framber going next 2 games against the Rockies. "Should" be wins, right?

Wabs said:

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Blanco and Framber going next 2 games against the Rockies. "Should" be wins, right?

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Framber has been pretty wild in his limited starts this year. To me, this whole exercise of not doing a rehab start could turn the first game back into a complete circus.

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Blanco and Framber going next 2 games against the Rockies. "Should" be wins, right?

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Should? Sure. But it's baseball. We've been humbled greatly this season.

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Wabs said:

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Blanco and Framber going next 2 games against the Rockies. "Should" be wins, right?

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Framber has been pretty wild in his limited starts this year. To me, this whole exercise of not doing a rehab start could turn the first game back into a complete circus.

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He was wild in game 1 and but made adjustments for game 2.

He's always had that is an underlying issues.

I'm at the point where I was almost a decade ago where wins are a pipe dream and I'm just hoping to have a few entertaining games time and time again.

Watching $30,000,000 players pop up with the bases juiced, singleton gut out shallow infield bloop single and abreu shoo chickens away from the porch are not my idea of a good time.

I'm not giving up on this season, but at least a good foundation is in place for '25 currently along with plenty money to spend.

Anyone going to the games in Mexico City this weekend? We are going to Sat and Sun with a groupd of friends.

Never been to Mexico City, so I packed plenty of dude wipes and imodium incase the Stro's and myself s**t the bed.

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Right. He's just oversimplifying it by focusing on record alone. In our last 60 or so games in '21, we were just a few games over .500 and then went 7-9 in the playoffs, losing the World Series. That meant nothing come '22 where we won 106 games and the WS. And we had even lost Correa to free agency and McCullers to injury.

Fun to look back at to try to explain what we're seeing now, but there weren't any indicators of such a monumental collapse. I think everyone had tempered expectations and knew the door was closing, but no one expected it to slam shut in our face.

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Uh, it's just a tweet, not a dissertation.

The tweet just laid out our record over the last 10 months or so for those that may not realize, since we were a game away from the World Series last year, that we've been little more than a.500 ball club for a while. And he explicitly says this doesn't explain the horrendous start to this season. He's basically just making the point that digging out of this hole will require a level a baseball that we haven't played in a long time. But, again, hopefully they find the magic.

And finally, everything you say is true. But every tweet doesn't require regurgitating everything you say (and presumably a bunch of other stuff that could be said as well) to be valid. The record is what it is. You're free to add whatever context you want, but I don't get the "how dare he cite our record without also providing an in-depth analysis of the last 3 years" when we're talking about a tweet.

But this has probably gone on too long. We all want the Stros to win. Here's hoping it starts soon.

Abreu goes 0-4 against Off Day pitching