AggiEE said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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AggiEE said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Tigers have traded OF Mark Canha to the Giants, per source

— Cody Stavenhagen (@CodyStavenhagen) July 30, 2024

Why couldn't we have made this deal?

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Canha sucks

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Not vs LHP.

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Extremely nich need, probably adequately served by someone like Dubon

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Then why does Singleton have 63 PA with a wRC+ of 40 vs LHP. Dubon only has 31 PA at 1B.

The Orioles acquired LHP Gregory Soto from the Phillies before the Deadline, sources tell me and @ToddZolecki.

— Mark Feinsand (@Feinsand) July 30, 2024

EastCoastAgNc said:

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Players have to be pissed about how this deadline went. Hopefully it doesn't show on the field...

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Yes, I too hope they are professionals and realize they have guys coming back from injury while they still have a **** ton to play for. I have hope they aren't crying about it.

If this team folds because of these deadline moves, then I am for real when I say this: get rid of them all.

I just can't really say that our team got much better than it was before these moves. Especially if guys don't return to injuries the way they think they will.

tjack16 said:

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I just can't really say that our team got much better than it was before these moves. Especially if guys don't return to injuries the way they think they will.

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You weren't going far into the postseason if they don't return anyway, no matter who you could afford with the Astros current farm system.

That's the reality of the situation the Astros have been in.

Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Players have to be pissed about how this deadline went. Hopefully it doesn't show on the field...

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Yes, I too hope they are professionals and realize they have guys coming back from injury while they still have a **** ton to play for. I have hope they aren't crying about it.

If this team folds because of these deadline moves, then I am for real when I say this: get rid of them all.

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Do you not remember how the team played like crap in August of 2017 and how keuchel openly blasted lunhow for doing nothing? It happens.

SpaceCityAg05 said:

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Not every deadline can be the homerun, get Verlander, Johnson, or Greinke kind of year.

But you hope to at least make moderate moves where you can say your team is better after the deadline.

I don't know that I can say that. And that feels deflating while others just got a morale boost in the arm.

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I will say this: if Kikuchi and Ferguson allow some of the young arms and overused arms to take some pitches off, then these moves absolutely, 100% make this year's team better.

The problem is it depends on guys to come back from injury, but the Astros were going to have to do that anyway.

After this year, I don't know.

JD Davis goes to Rays

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) July 30, 2024

For all of the years of this run, we were smart and when we made moves, even if you didn't understand them at first glance, you felt comfortable that they were smart - someone in our org knew something.

Now it feels the opposite. I have no confidence in decision making anymore. Dana Brown may be a better talent evaluator than Ed Wade, but it is starting to feel like the Ed Wade days where you immediately suspect any move we make might have been unwise or mishandled.

Damn. So Jon at 1B the rest of the way and no high leverage relief help? Don't think this team has much of a chance.

And next year is part of it.

The previous front office groups were smart to look more than one move ahead. Make moves that set up future success as well.

I started thinking last night about next year's roster and got queasy. Yeah, we may clear 75-90 million off the books pre-raises, but I don't feel confident at all about our ability to use that wisely. And if not, we will fall further.

And if you can't compete, then we should have just gone for it now.

In the offseason, we will back where we were at the deadline, minus Bregman, minus Verlander, etc. and now will have a weaker farm system (minus Bloss, Loperfido, and Wagner) with which to address it.

Some thoughts on the Astros’ quiet Tuesday on The Athletic’s trade deadline live blog - https://t.co/IJzUw5vf7c

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 30, 2024

Yeah these guys aren't fragile. They've been there done that. They also know we have a lot of guys hurt, some of whom should be back in short order.

So what happens if Singleton gets hurt or takes an insane dip? Who's the backup first basemen?

Diaz?

Cabbage, Hummel, Kessinger, Dubon.

Farmer1906 said:

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Cabbage, Hummel, Kessinger, Dubon.

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Have they played any of them at first base yet? Besides Dubon.

So are those Dodgers prospects better than Joey and Bloss?

I'm not super thrilled with our plan at 1B vs LHP.

tjack16 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Cabbage, Hummel, Kessinger, Dubon.

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Have they played any of them at first base yet? Besides Dubon.

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All have in AAA.

The Astros put Kyle Tucker on the 60-day IL to open a 40-man roster spot for Pedro León

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) July 30, 2024

Procedural move

redline248 said:

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So are those Dodgers prospects better than Joey and Bloss?

I'm not super thrilled with our plan at 1B vs LHP.

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Detroit may think so but we will never know. I would feel a lot better about Kikuchi if the deal was today before the deadline ended. At least then it would appear Dana waited it out as long as he could. Candidly if someone was paying more I'd just tell the Jays bravo they should take it.

TODAY’S ROSTER MOVES:

The Astros have recalled RHP Shawn Dubin and selected OF Pedro León (#4) to the Major League roster. To make room for León on the active roster, the Astros transferred OF Kyle Tucker to the 60-day Injured List.

LHP Yusei Kikuchi (#16), acquired via trade…

— Houston Astros (@astros) July 30, 2024

Yep you're correct

Tampa got greedy. Glad we told em no thanks.