Amen!

Regardless of if Schilling is or isn't a HOFer, I love that he asked to be taken off the ballot and would be honored if he made in in later on players vote.

How did you have Billy Wagner on your ballot last year and not this year??? Ridiculous https://t.co/qUpyywHvr6

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 27, 2023

I think this is the first ballot where he lost a vote.

This was this dbags 2022 ballot.

My 2023 ⁦@baseballhall⁩ ballot. Billy Wagner is an add. I could see voting for Carlos Beltran in the future. ⁦⁦@NotMrTibbs⁩ pic.twitter.com/MtxXExyaxM

— Marcos Breton (@MarcosBreton) December 19, 2022

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That is why I am pissed. I can understand if he used all his available votes both years and the new additions to the ballot pushed him off this year's. Folks like this idiot don't deserve a ballot.

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Farmer1906 said:

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I think this is the first ballot where he lost a vote.

This was this dbags 2022 ballot.

My 2023 ⁦@baseballhall⁩ ballot. Billy Wagner is an add. I could see voting for Carlos Beltran in the future. ⁦⁦@NotMrTibbs⁩ pic.twitter.com/MtxXExyaxM

— Marcos Breton (@MarcosBreton) December 19, 2022

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Guy is farming for clicks and deserves a sledgehammer to his kneecaps for this mockery. He's trolling, and should be grounds for immediate removal of his voting rights. And not just because of Wagner. His four votes from last year must have had terrible 2023 seasons. Dude is irrelevant and wants clicks.

Move to a rotating mixed committee of former players, writers, and execs/owners/coaches/other baseball people.

Wow. That is like 2nd grade childish.

There is no way that this person should be allowed to vote for the Hall of Fame. You're right, this is 100% a troll move for social media status.

I feel sorry for Beltran and Beltre. The way this guy changed votes every year they will be minus 1 next year.

I've not been paying attention to the vote tracking. Is he going to make it?

Outkick picked up on the moron

https://www.outkick.com/mlb-hall-of-fame-voter-slammed-for-not-knowing-rules-changing-votes-from-year-to-year/

It actually gets worse.



Except, this is Sheffields last year on the ballot.

Probably should know that as an "expert" in the sport.

LOL. That article says that stupid ****er hasn't covered the sport full-time since 2017. I think we found part of the problem.

Community Notes got his ass too.

Community notes is going after Hall of Fame voters pic.twitter.com/nSRRU8TcO1

— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) December 29, 2023

22% of known Hall of Fame ballots, Billy Wagner is sitting at 77%, which is over the threshold 🔥🔥

He has to keep getting those votes, but let's put Wagner in the HOF!! https://t.co/WDHSnIROr9

— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) December 30, 2023

That Breton guy… been a while since I've seen somebody on the internet look like more of a dolt trying to be an edgelord.

People ask him to substantiate the vast inconsistency between his 2023 and 2024 ballots and he never responds and asks for credit for being transparent and then just calls people babies?

Pretty lazy for an opinion writer whose job is to have a take and substantiate it. Sacramento Bee could probably do better.

Helton and Wagner fans should note that sample sizes of potential adds among key voter groups are very small in the public ballots, so it's difficult to project how they'll do with similar voters who won't reveal until after the election. Going to come down to the wire for them!

— Jason Sardell (@sarsdell) December 31, 2023

Todd Helton is a product of Coors Field.

Almost perfect 50/50 splits of games at altitude and at sea level. Hall of Fame at home. Hall of Good on the road.

From 1995-2015 Helton on the road was better than Kent, Utley, Rolen, Beltre, & B Abreu. And very similar #s to Sheffield, Chipper, & Beltran.

Two more players who played the vast majority of their home games at Coors. That effect is very real and should not be discounted. It turns an average player into very good one. It turns a good one into a HOF one.

Is that Bichete and Walker? Walker was deserving and played very well in STL & MON.

Walker is second. He's as extreme at Coors as Helton. I didn't think he was HOF worthy either. Walker (and now likely Helton too) making it and Fat Elvis being dropped the first year makes no sense. None.

The first is Charlie Blackmon. His splits are just as wide.

Bichette had them too but it's a smaller sample as he didn't play there as long. But he was an AS there and average away from Coors.

Coors field is basically steroids for hitters. It's the massive outfield.

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Walker is second. He's as extreme at Coors as Helton. I didn't think he was HOF worthy either. Walker (and now likely Helton too) making it and Fat Elvis being dropped the first year makes no sense. None.

The first is Charlie Blackmon. His splits are just as wide.

Bichette had them too but it's a smaller sample as he didn't play there as long. But he was an AS there and average away from Coors.

Coors field is basically steroids for hitters. It's the massive outfield.

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This is former #1 pick Jeffrey Hammonds splits from his one year as a Rocky in 2000. Possibly my favorite thing ever in all of baseball lore. His OBP at Coors was 50 points higher than his slugging % on the road.

Looking good for Wagner as more and more become public.

This is not a forecast, but if Helton & Wagner don't have a career-high dropoff, they will make it in this year. But it's unprecedented for Sheffield to gain as much as he needs to right now. https://t.co/ZGwG95g1Mt pic.twitter.com/MpVGOUKf5e

— Nathaniel Rakich (@baseballot) January 2, 2024

I think we're being a little too tough on our candidates. A combo of that, steroids, and fewer stat compilers has tanked the HOF rate.

Well, those things and Marcos Breton.

Ballot Update (129 Ballots - 33.6%)

Adrian Beltre - 98.4%
Joe Mauer - 82.2%
Todd Helton - 82.2%
Billy Wagner - 79.8%
Gary Sheffield - 76.7%
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Andruw Jones - 68.2%
Carlos Beltran - 65.9%
Chase Utley - 45.0% (this feels disrespectful)


Wagner has gained 7 votes this year but also lost 2. He's NET +5 so far compared to last year's voter. He also gained 9 votes from the 10 new voters that published their vote. It's trending well, but far from a sure thing.