I don't really need it for anything else but the Rangers. If there was a streaming option I'd obviously still have to pay, but I could at least drop that subscription.

PatAg said:

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So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Not for this season. Anything is possible beyond this season.

PatAg said:

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So a deal is struck with bally, but didn't Amazon buy them?
So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Ballys doesn't own the Rangers streaming rights so the Amazon deal doesn't involve them. One year deal for broadcast rights to continue and Rangers agree to not use their streaming rights through any other medium. Nothing is preventing Rangers from doing a future broadcast and streaming deal with Amazon/Ballys.

cmiller00 said:

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PatAg said:

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So a deal is struck with bally, but didn't Amazon buy them?
So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Ballys doesn't own the Rangers streaming rights so the Amazon deal doesn't involve them. One year deal for broadcast rights to continue and Rangers agree to not use their streaming rights through any other medium. Nothing is preventing Rangers from doing a future broadcast and streaming deal with Amazon/Ballys.

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You would think with having a lower payment from DSG than what was originally agreed upon, the Rangers could make that money back up by letting Amazon stream the games.

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cmiller00 said:

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PatAg said:

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So a deal is struck with bally, but didn't Amazon buy them?
So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Ballys doesn't own the Rangers streaming rights so the Amazon deal doesn't involve them. One year deal for broadcast rights to continue and Rangers agree to not use their streaming rights through any other medium. Nothing is preventing Rangers from doing a future broadcast and streaming deal with Amazon/Ballys.

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You would think with having a lower payment from DSG than what was originally agreed upon, the Rangers could make that money back up by letting Amazon stream the games.

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But they can't, at least not this year. Part of the "deal" specifically excludes them from doing that this. The deal has been agreed to, I believe the last step is for the courts to approval the deal between the Rangers and Bally/DSG.

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The Rangers, Twins and Guardians will retain their streaming rights but won't be able to work out a new deal this year. For fans in those markets hoping for changes to the direct-to-consumer model, it seems they may have to wait another year, assuming everything ends up being approved in court.

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MrCoachEricTaylor said:

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cmiller00 said:

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PatAg said:

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So a deal is struck with bally, but didn't Amazon buy them?
So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Ballys doesn't own the Rangers streaming rights so the Amazon deal doesn't involve them. One year deal for broadcast rights to continue and Rangers agree to not use their streaming rights through any other medium. Nothing is preventing Rangers from doing a future broadcast and streaming deal with Amazon/Ballys.

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You would think with having a lower payment from DSG than what was originally agreed upon, the Rangers could make that money back up by letting Amazon stream the games.

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But they can't, at least not this year. Part of the "deal" specifically excludes them from doing that this. The deal has been agreed to, I believe the last step is for the courts to approval the deal between the Rangers and Bally/DSG.

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The Rangers, Twins and Guardians will retain their streaming rights but won't be able to work out a new deal this year. For fans in those markets hoping for changes to the direct-to-consumer model, it seems they may have to wait another year, assuming everything ends up being approved in court.

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Yeah, I get it. Just hate it. Just tired of us consumers being screwed over by RSNs

From the Athletic article:

Baseball executives still wonder how Diamond will make ends meet. Diamond this year might owe more than $800 million in rights fees payments to 12 MLB teams. Contrast that with Amazon's investment, which could grow to as much as $165 million early in the deal.

"It's just not that much money when put in context of the problem that they have," said the person briefed on the league's thinking.

Diamond's financial projections also face skepticism in baseball circles, the person continued, because Diamond has repeatedly "underestimated the decline on the revenue side, and wildly overestimated what they can do in direct-to-consumer."

With the Amazon plan, Diamond is projecting that its earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) will grow from $81 million in 2023 to $280 million in 2026.

With its streaming, direct-to-consumer product, or DTC for short, Diamond sees a $77 million loss in 2023 turning into a $369 million gain in 2026. (And before expenses, Diamond thinks DTC revenue would go from $49 million last year to $658 million in 2026 a huge jump.)

MrCoachEricTaylor said:

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cmiller00 said:

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PatAg said:

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So a deal is struck with bally, but didn't Amazon buy them?
So it could still mean streaming on Amazon Prime right?

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Ballys doesn't own the Rangers streaming rights so the Amazon deal doesn't involve them. One year deal for broadcast rights to continue and Rangers agree to not use their streaming rights through any other medium. Nothing is preventing Rangers from doing a future broadcast and streaming deal with Amazon/Ballys.

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You would think with having a lower payment from DSG than what was originally agreed upon, the Rangers could make that money back up by letting Amazon stream the games.

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I think the payment from DSG would have been even lower, without the agreement that neither was Stream in 2024. I think the concern for DSG is, if the Rangers/MLB offers Streaming, then the viewership (aka money) for DSG would diminish.

In 2023, when the DSG agreement with SDP, I believe... MLB agreed to fill the gap to make SDP (and a couple others) whole from a budget perspective.

If I read correctly, the agreement will be brought forth before the Court on Feb 9th to be approved. I'm hoping MLB will announce after the agreement they'll make the Cle and Tex whole and likely don't want to inject that beforehand.

If MLB agrees to make them whole publicly, then DSG could lowball further because DSG would know that it shouldn't matter to the team if the money is from DSG or MLB. MLB does care, though.

cmiller00 said:

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With its streaming, direct-to-consumer product, or DTC for short, Diamond sees a $77 million loss in 2023 turning into a $369 million gain in 2026. (And before expenses, Diamond thinks DTC revenue would go from $49 million last year to $658 million in 2026 a huge jump.)

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Is Diamond represented by Scott Boras?!? Might be the only way to explain those optimistic projections.

Yeah the streaming aspect being a crucial part of the deal makes total sense

Hey now some consultant got paid a lot of money to make up those numbers.

What does World Series Baseball mean?

An official Rawlings World Series baseball (liked used in the games)

Wonder if Cueto could be had on a minor league deal?

I think we need a couple guys like that.

GigEmAgsCaleb said:

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Doing a private signing with Eric Nadel in a couple weeks! I have WS baseballs available that I can get signed but comment below if you have something else in mind.
$160 shipped including the price of my baseball, will have 2 different inscriptions available
"Rangers fans you're not dreaming"
"May the ghosts of 2011 be forever erased"
If you would like some other inscription signed lmk and I can see what I can do
Signing takes place on February 17th

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I would have him sign it "history"

had a popup message on phone earlier... Bobby Witt Jr gets an extension for $288M over 11 years!

So we be looking to do the same with one (or more) of: Jung or Carter? Langford needs to get to the mlb and prove himself before considering him imo.

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had a popup message on phone earlier... Bobby Witt Jr gets an extension for $288M over 11 years!

So we be looking to do the same with one (or more) of: Jung or Carter? Langford needs to get to the mlb and prove himself before considering him imo.

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I remember when Witt and the royals pooped on the Astros and made them their ***** last year. Hopefully that tradition continues this season.

Keith Law's top 100 is out. Anyone have where rangers prospects landed for us poors?

Langford at 6
Carter at 9
Walcott at 40

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It's amazing that the Langford hype has put him above a guy who hit third or fourth in a World Series winning lineup.

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More amazing that he has both out of his top 5. Personally, I think Langford is a better prospect than Carter. Carter had an amazing postseason but still struggles to hit lefties. Until he proves that it's going to hard to play him everyday. I think Langford has the potential to be generational.

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Baseball America farm system rankings:

3. Rangers



















29. Astros

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But but but according to Farmer we're always going to be terrible and farm system will never be good and we can't develop anyone!

If we can hit on a just a few of Winn, Leiter, Rocker, Porter, White. Franchise would be set for the next 5-7 years.

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If we can hit on a just a few of Winn, Leiter, Rocker, Porter, White. Franchise would be set for the next 5-7 years.

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Porter already looks good. Hard to imagine whiffing on all the rest. Should at least be 2 good ones out of that group.

Astros lock up Altuve on a 5 yr / $125M Extension through his Age 39 season

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Astros lock up Altuve on a 5 yr / $125M Extension through his Age 39 season

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They had to get that deal done, but it may be an ugly deal by the end of it.

The deal is front loaded, Final two seasons will be relatively cheap,

Jose Altuve contract
$15M signing bonus
2025: 30 million
2026: 30 million
207: 30 million
2029: 10 million
2030: 10 million
First $300 million second baseman in history

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) February 6, 2024

ChoppinDs40 said:

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maybe but honestly, Altuve could probably DH until he was 39... dude just knows how to hit... especially in that little league park and LF wall.

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That's true.

ChoppinDs40 said:

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maybe but honestly, Altuve could probably DH until he was 39... dude just knows how to hit... especially in that little league park and LF wall.

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Good thing we usually have a real man in the line up whenever we play them there.