***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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In reply to linkdude • 12:38p, 2/5/24
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Man I didn't realize how good Witt's #s were until I just looked them up. If he can start drawing some more walks he's going to be lethal. 69 EXB and 49 steals in the same season. Nasty.
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12:46p, 2/5/24
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I hope Witt got some early and often opt-outs in that deal

not sure KC is the best place for a star to shine nowadays
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12:54p, 2/5/24
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Orange Helmets would be sick


At very least I wish our helmets had orange bill. I love the Braves look, Iconic


A's have same look, As does Baltimore
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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In reply to W • 1:02p, 2/5/24
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After year 7 is the first opt out. At worst it's a 3 year extension to the 4 years of control they already have. I haven't seen the year by year $ but I would assume the real money doesn't kick in until year 5.
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1:21p, 2/5/24
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surprised that Gilbert is down at 100 after the trade.
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1:27p, 2/5/24
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we've dissected Keith Law's, um, er, analysis before

famously did not have Yordan in his top 100 prior to the 2019 season

whoops
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1:41p, 2/5/24
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Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:07p, 2/5/24
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Farmer1906 said:
Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?


McCullers maybe?
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2:19p, 2/5/24
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At some point you can't keep bagging on a team for not having a top farm system when the vast majority of the team on a nearly decade long domination keeps getting promoted from the farm system.
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2:22p, 2/5/24
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Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow
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In reply to tjack16 • 2:29p, 2/5/24
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tjack16 said:
Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow



288 million can go a long way in Kansas..... but you have to live in Kansas.....
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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In reply to Mr.Bond • 2:34p, 2/5/24
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Mr.Bond said:
tjack16 said:
Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow



288 million can go a long way in Kansas..... but you have to live in Kansas.....


I'd definitely live somewhere else the other 6 months of the year.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:34p, 2/5/24
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Farmer1906 said:
Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?


Jon Singleton
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In reply to shano0603 • 2:37p, 2/5/24
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shano0603 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?


Jon Singleton


And Forrest too.

What I was kind of getting at, we've clearly made a living with guys not nearly as highly thought of. Keep rankings our guys low and we'll keep developing the Yainer's, Chas's, Javier's, Abreu's, etc of the world.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:39p, 2/5/24
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Farmer1906 said:
shano0603 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?


Jon Singleton


And Forrest too.

What I was kind of getting at, we've clearly made a living with guys not nearly as highly thought of. Keep rankings our guys low and we'll keep developing the Yainer's, Chas's, Javier's, Abreu's, etc of the world.


Maybe, just maybe the current media farm system talent evaluation doesn't match Houston's successful strategy.
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2:41p, 2/5/24
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Off the top of my head our "stars" who have been top prospects

Correa
Springer
Tucker
Bregman
McCullers


But I'd say we've had enough production from non top 100 guys to say we're doing just fine. We even had a rookie win ALCS and WS MVP without being a top 100 prospect
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In reply to shano0603 • 2:57p, 2/5/24
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shano0603 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Outside of Tucker & Bregman, are any of the Astros top players former top 100 prospects?


Jon Singleton

Montero and Hader
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In reply to Mr.Bond • 3:51p, 2/5/24
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Mr.Bond said:
tjack16 said:
Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow



288 million can go a long way in Kansas..... but you have to live in Kansas.....
You know that team is in Missouri, right?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:53p, 2/5/24
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The Porkchop Express said:
Mr.Bond said:
tjack16 said:
Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow



288 million can go a long way in Kansas..... but you have to live in Kansas.....
You know that team is in Missouri, right?




Well aware..... but like claiming orange texas is better than Sulphur Louisiana. Same old boring place
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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4:04p, 2/5/24
Surprised he didn't try and chase a ring before the bag. His career will likely die in KC with no ring
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In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12 • 4:23p, 2/5/24
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
Surprised he didn't try and chase a ring before the bag. His career will likely die in KC with no ring


I'm sure he'll dry his eyes with the $300M.
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In reply to AgLA06 • 4:39p, 2/5/24
AgLA06 said:
PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
Surprised he didn't try and chase a ring before the bag. His career will likely die in KC with no ring


I'm sure he'll dry his eyes with the $300M.


I'm sure he will be fine but man young enough to hit a cheap 2 year deal somewhere to contend.
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In reply to Mr.Bond • 5:00p, 2/5/24
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Funny thing here is the nicer and more expensive
Part of Kansas City is in the Kansas side, with Overland Park and Mission Hills being the River Oaks of KC.
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In reply to Mr.Bond • 5:03p, 2/5/24
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Mr.Bond said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Mr.Bond said:
tjack16 said:
Royals extended Bobby Witt to an 11 year deal… wow



288 million can go a long way in Kansas..... but you have to live in Kansas.....
You know that team is in Missouri, right?




Well aware..... but like claiming orange texas is better than Sulphur Louisiana. Same old boring place
I lived in Overland Park for 6 years it is really nice place to live, you are showing your ignorance there. I do not live there now, but it was surely no dump.
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In reply to OPAG • 5:21p, 2/5/24
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You used the word dump. Not me
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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5:22p, 2/5/24
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Maton gets 6.5 million for 1 year
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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In reply to Mr.Bond • 5:34p, 2/5/24
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Mr.Bond said:
You used the word dump. Not me


Where do you live Bond?
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5:36p, 2/5/24
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Get your popcorn ready
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In reply to linkdude • 5:40p, 2/5/24
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linkdude said:


The time to sign Tucker would have been the offseason between 21 and 22 at the latest. Now he's way too close to free agency. If we would have offered a deal similar to Witt Jr, Tucker might be here long term. Now I think it'll take signing TED until around 38-40 to keep him.
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In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12 • 5:48p, 2/5/24
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
Surprised he didn't try and chase a ring before the bag. His career will likely die in KC with no ring
Royals will flip him at some point
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In reply to redline248 • 5:49p, 2/5/24
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redline248 said:
PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
Surprised he didn't try and chase a ring before the bag. His career will likely die in KC with no ring
Royals will flip him at some point


Full no trade clause. But the opt out after 7 means he hits free agency at age 30-31.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 5:56p, 2/5/24
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Farmer1906 said:
linkdude said:


The time to sign Tucker would have been the offseason between 21 and 22 at the latest. Now he's way too close to free agency. If we would have offered a deal similar to Witt Jr, Tucker might be here long term. Now I think it'll take signing TED until around 38-40 to keep him.


Yep. Should have done it between 2021 and 2022. He would have taken the Yordan type of extension
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In reply to tjack16 • 5:58p, 2/5/24
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It would have had to topped the Yordan deal. We got him for a steal. Yordan accepting it probably killed any chance of extending Tucker. You can't give Yordan 6/115 and Tucker 8/225.
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6:13p, 2/5/24
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Bobby Witt Jr is a helluva player who I've always said it's a shame that he's playing in KC because no sees him and gets to watch him.

He needs to be somewhere else. He's too good for KC.
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7:03p, 2/5/24
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You guys realize the Royals won a title in the last decade, right? Nothing says they can't have him as the centerpiece and build around him. They're not exactly in the most competitive division.
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