No Wagner?
***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]
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Wagner five votes short
Brutal.
Wags has one more year so hopefully "wait until next year".
Which notable players are being added to the ballet next year?
Ichiro
**** these nerds man. Absolutely bs Billy got shafted
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
Probably that Marcos Breton ****nut.tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
Isn't there now a risk to that? Like could lose ballot
tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
Insane take
Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
His last 1000 games
4.4 WAR
80 wRC+
.651 OPS
That's almost 40% of his career.
4.4 WAR
80 wRC+
.651 OPS
That's almost 40% of his career.
tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
Longevity stacked on elite is such a horrible trait.
You mean like being the best right fielder in your generation?
Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
Listen; I'm still sore about Pearl Harbor too, but this isn't the way to go about it
AgLA06 said:
You mean like being the best right fielder in your generation?
I'd probably take Sheffield, Walker, Sosa, Vlad, & Abreu over him.
I'd take current day Betts, Harper, & Judge over him. Maybe TED if he can keep it up.
Yall want my opinion on Gwynn too?
Terminus Est said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
Listen; I'm still sore about Pearl Harbor too, but this isn't the way to go about it
Farmer1906 said:
Yall want my opinion on Gwynn too?
Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
Like getting 10 gold gloves?
Ichiro was a player "out of time" so to speak
his numbers back in the 1970's and 1980's would have looked and played much better
but in the 21st century with the emphasis on power, home runs, and advanced metrics...his stats leave something to be desired
in 2006...he had 224 hits...which looks great...but it only resulted in an OPS+ of 106
in 2007...he hit 6 HR's in 678 at-bats...that would not work in today's game
he only had 5 years with an OPS over .800
his numbers back in the 1970's and 1980's would have looked and played much better
but in the 21st century with the emphasis on power, home runs, and advanced metrics...his stats leave something to be desired
in 2006...he had 224 hits...which looks great...but it only resulted in an OPS+ of 106
in 2007...he hit 6 HR's in 678 at-bats...that would not work in today's game
he only had 5 years with an OPS over .800
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Did you actually see him play or this is just all stats?Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
for reference...Kyle Tucker is yet to have a full season under .800 OPS
x-base hits are important
x-base hits are important
Did Berkman's lack of 2000 hits hurt his chances?
id love to hear your opinion on Gwynn. Surely it can't be worse than yours toward Ichiro? Or can it?Farmer1906 said:
Yall want my opinion on Gwynn too?
Nothing worse than a guy hitting over .350 every year who never strikes out.AustinCountyAg said:id love to hear your opinion on Gwynn. Surely it can't be worse than yours toward Ichiro? Or can it?Farmer1906 said:
Yall want my opinion on Gwynn too?
The Porkchop Express said:Did you actually see him play or this is just all stats?Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
Nope. Don't really care to watch.
So you would not have wanted the guy who hit .351 and stole 37 bases and scored 111 runs in 161 games at age 33 in your lineup?W said:
Ichiro was a player "out of time" so to speak
his numbers back in the 1970's and 1980's would have looked and played much better
but in the 21st century with the emphasis on power, home runs, and advanced metrics...his stats leave something to be desired
in 2006...he had 224 hits...which looks great...but it only resulted in an OPS+ of 106
in 2007...he hit 6 HR's in 678 at-bats...that would not work in today's game
he only had 5 years with an OPS over .800
Really?Farmer1906 said:The Porkchop Express said:Did you actually see him play or this is just all stats?Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
Nope. Don't really care to watch.
The Porkchop Express said:Really?Farmer1906 said:The Porkchop Express said:Did you actually see him play or this is just all stats?Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:Farmer1906 said:tjack16 said:
Ichiro needs to receive 100% votes … but he won't because there's always the one voter who has to be different
He's deserving, but a very large portion of his career was pretty sucky. The lack of power and walks makes him more borderline in vs led pipe lock in my eyes.
He didn't come to the US until he was 27 and still got 3,000 hits.
There is more to baseball than slapping a bunch of singles.
Nope. Don't really care to watch.
Of course not. I'm obsessed with baseball. I grew up on sports center, baseball tonight, SC top 10s, web gems, etc. But I can evaluate outside of really liking a player. Biggio is my all time favorite. I wanted to be just like him on the field. Doesn't mean I can't recognize his flaws.
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