Was thinking about Bregman, Altuve and the luxury tax payroll.

I looked at potential contracts for Altuve & Bregman over the last few days.

We know Altuve is making $23,357,143 (luxury Tax amount) / $26 M (base) & Bregman $20,000,000 (luxury tax) / $28.5 M (base)

Let's assume both will accept one of my previous contract guesses 3/70 & 6/132.

If we include 2024 money as well, they jump to 4/96 & 7/160.5. Both would increase the AAV and hurt the luxury tax. I believe you can make it so that they do not go into effect until 2025 so it won't hurt tax #s.

BUT I believe you can also include it this year. Why not make these guys Astros for life and help yourself out a little? Keep the total # about the same (add ~5%) along with another 2-3 years.

Offer Altuve 6/100 & Bregman 10/170. Both would be free agents for their age-40 season. It would lower your AAV from a combined 43.3 M for 2024 to 33.6 M, not cost much more in total dollars, and keep these two as Astros for life ala Bagwell and Biggio. If (when in Altuve's case) they go into the HOF, they're Astro locks (probably already are).

We would go from 232 M to 222 M which increase the gap to the 1st and 2nd tax level to 15 and 35. Even with going aggressive after someone like Hicks and Pedrson, we should easily be able to stay under the 2nd tax level (257 M)

The Braves are expected to decline Eddie Rosario's option by tomorrow, per @JonHeyman pic.twitter.com/RzoDhBi7Mu

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) November 5, 2023

Another lefty LF option. He's nothing special and shouldn't break the bank. Braves wouldn't even give him 9 M.

Farmer1906 said:

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Was thinking about Bregman, Altuve and the luxury tax payroll.

I looked at potential contracts for Altuve & Bregman over the last few days.

We know Altuve is making $23,357,143 (luxury Tax amount) / $26 M (base) & Bregman $20,000,000 (luxury tax) / $28.5 M (base)

Let's assume both will accept one of my previous contract guesses 3/70 & 6/132.

If we include 2024 money as well, they jump to 4/96 & 7/160.5. Both would increase the AAV and hurt the luxury tax. I believe you can make it so that they do not go into effect until 2025 so it won't hurt tax #s.

BUT I believe you can also include it this year. Why not make these guys Astros for life and help yourself out a little? Keep the total # about the same (add ~5%) along with another 2-3 years.

Offer Altuve 6/100 & Bregman 10/170. Both would be free agents for their age-40 season. It would lower your AAV from a combined 43.3 M for 2024 to 33.6 M, not cost much more in total dollars, and keep these two as Astros for life ala Bagwell and Biggio. If (when in Altuve's case) they go into the HOF, they're Astro locks (probably already are).

We would go from 232 M to 222 M which increase the gap to the 1st and 2nd tax level to 15 and 35. Even with going aggressive after someone like Hicks and Pedrson, we should easily be able to stay under the 2nd tax level (257 M)

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I agree with extending to lower their AAV but I think you're talking about too long.

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Was thinking about Bregman, Altuve and the luxury tax payroll.

I looked at potential contracts for Altuve & Bregman over the last few days.

We know Altuve is making $23,357,143 (luxury Tax amount) / $26 M (base) & Bregman $20,000,000 (luxury tax) / $28.5 M (base)

Let's assume both will accept one of my previous contract guesses 3/70 & 6/132.

If we include 2024 money as well, they jump to 4/96 & 7/160.5. Both would increase the AAV and hurt the luxury tax. I believe you can make it so that they do not go into effect until 2025 so it won't hurt tax #s.

BUT I believe you can also include it this year. Why not make these guys Astros for life and help yourself out a little? Keep the total # about the same (add ~5%) along with another 2-3 years.

Offer Altuve 6/100 & Bregman 10/170. Both would be free agents for their age-40 season. It would lower your AAV from a combined 43.3 M for 2024 to 33.6 M, not cost much more in total dollars, and keep these two as Astros for life ala Bagwell and Biggio. If (when in Altuve's case) they go into the HOF, they're Astro locks (probably already are).

We would go from 232 M to 222 M which increase the gap to the 1st and 2nd tax level to 15 and 35. Even with going aggressive after someone like Hicks and Pedrson, we should easily be able to stay under the 2nd tax level (257 M)

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I agree with extending to lower their AAV but I think you're talking about too long.

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Any shorter and it doesn't make much of a difference.

Any shorter than 10 years for Bregman doesn't make a difference compared to a FA next year….? Huh

Got to meet and talk with him at the Bama game. Guy is a stud

texasaggie2015 said:

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Was told last night there's about an "80% chance" Espada is going to be the guy. This has been my hunch as well based off everything else I've been told.

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Might as well give him a chance. If he can work with the FO and isn't egotistical and completely run by gut feelings instead of facts, that's all we really need. Managing by committee is much better than managing by 1 guy's ego.

I'm not seeing anyone on the open market I like.

stoneca said:

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AggiEE said:

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texasaggie2015 said:

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Was told last night there's about an "80% chance" Espada is going to be the guy. This has been my hunch as well based off everything else I've been told.

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Might as well give him a chance. If he can work with the FO and isn't egotistical and completely run by gut feelings instead of facts, that's all we really need. Managing by committee is much better than managing by 1 guy's ego.

I'm not seeing anyone on the open market I like.

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I think he will be great. For example, He was thrown into the fire in ALCS game 5 and managed us to a win trailing by 2 in the 9th.

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Small sample size, but those moves he made were brilliant and hard to imagine Dusty would've done the same

1a) my 15 y/o soccer teams
1b) my 13 y/o baseball teams
1c) my 12 y/o soccer teams
2) Astros
3) Aggie Football (has steadily dropped over decades from #1)
4) other Aggie sports, whatever is in season
5) anyone playing against the sips in anything


It's honestly pretty nice to be diversified. One or two of the above losing in an weekend doesn't bother me anymore.

Bregxit said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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tjack16 said:

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Here's my order of fandom

1A. Aggie football
1B. Astros
1C. Aggie baseball
2. Aggie basketball
3. Texans
4. Rockets
5. All other Aggie sports

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false.

1. Astros
2. Aggie Football
3. Aggie baseball

Who cares after that

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False.

1. Astros

Who cares after that?

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I mean this is it for the most part. I've completely missed 2 Aggie games this year. Every season I care less and less

Aggie baseball I love in theory but it's difficult to watch so I don't follow as well. I've tried following on here and I can't keep up with everything and they don't create much quality baseball content anymore. I don't even read this thread fully "in game" so I really can't do it for Aggie games.

I have DIRECTV and a DVR. Astros is the easiest thing to watch in my life

Sean Manaea has opted out of his $12.5 million contract with the Giants, sources tell me.

— Andrew Baggarly (@extrabaggs) November 5, 2023

Marlins are declining Johnny Cueto’s $10.5M option

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 5, 2023

Astros with 3 of the top 20, and Altuve at 26.

Steamer released their projections for 2024

Top 20 Position Players projected for the most War in MLB pic.twitter.com/dVoDsrib0v

— Addison (@YankeeWRLD) November 5, 2023

Joey Swords is the next Astros manager, pass it on