***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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I'm thinking up an elaborate cheating scandal to accuse them of, and I'm going to post about it for the next 3-5 years repeatedly if they end up winning the WS.
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The Porkchop Express said:

I'm thinking up an elaborate cheating scandal to accuse them of, and I'm going to post about it for the next 3-5 years repeatedly if they end up winning the WS.
Well they've already been aided by cheater Scherzer. Remember all the careers he ruined by using spider tack his whole career? Surely he didn't just magically stop.
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Wabs said:

The Porkchop Express said:

I'm thinking up an elaborate cheating scandal to accuse them of, and I'm going to post about it for the next 3-5 years repeatedly if they end up winning the WS.
Well they've already been aided by cheater Scherzer. Remember all the careers he ruined by using spider tack his whole career? Surely he didn't just magically stop.
And Adolis is surely on the roids
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cap-n-jack said:

If an arlington wins a wc and nobody saw it did it really win?


2023 World Series of indifference.


Sorry Ranger fans. No one cares!
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I think my cheating scandal is going to involve using military-trained dolphins to bounce sonar waves off a satellite that relays pitch.com signals straight into the Rangers' dugout.
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The Porkchop Express said:

I think my cheating scandal is going to involve using military-trained dolphins to bounce sonar waves off a satellite that relays pitch.com signals straight into the Rangers' dugout.
Has to be an away game scheme, though....

Kind of humorous to me that a team who has literally won every single one of their playoff road games accused us of hacking pitchcoms on the road.....
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I'm sure we can find something about a Rangers staffer purchasing tickets for the Arizona-Astros last series along the 1st and 3rd base lines that have unobstructive views of each teams. And then text messages two people about the se of cameras to film each dugout for the whole game.
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Was told this morning that Crane is very serious about Counsell but, as expected, it's unlikely he's willing to outbid the Mets. He loves him though and he checks just about every box.
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And going back to the WS viewership.....

I'll preface this by saying if it were us, I wouldn't give a **** what viewership was....

But I feel like I hear a lot of people simply saying things like duh, viewership is just down. Wasn't the ALCS, particularly game 1, one of the most watched League Championship Series in awhile? Wasn't viewership during the regular season up?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Was told this morning that Crane is very serious about Counsell but, as expected, it's unlikely he's willing to outbid the Mets. He loves him though and he checks just about every box.


Probably the same situation with Sterns. Wanted him but couldn't make it happen over the Mets.
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Yup
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texasaggie2015 said:

Was told this morning that Crane is very serious about Counsell but, as expected, it's unlikely he's willing to outbid the Mets. He loves him though and he checks just about every box.
I suppose Counsell is better than the other old farts that have been rumored. But the fact that the Mets are interested, and his woeful postseason results are kind of a red flag. I'd still pick Espada over him.
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I absolutely would not pick Espada over Counsell.
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texasaggie2015 said:

I absolutely would not pick Espada over Counsell.
Why?
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Whoever it is, I just want it announced.
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Genuine question. What is the big draw of Counsell?
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Wabs said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Was told this morning that Crane is very serious about Counsell but, as expected, it's unlikely he's willing to outbid the Mets. He loves him though and he checks just about every box.
I suppose Counsell is better than the other old farts that have been rumored. But the fact that the Mets are interested, and his woeful postseason results are kind of a red flag. I'd still pick Espada over him.


Have you seen the Brew Crews rosters over the years? Their payroll rank is usually in the bottom 1/3. They fit the bill of doing more with less. They've made the postseason 5 of the last 6 seasons with 3 central titles.


It's perfectly fine to prefer Espada over Counsell but I wouldn't hold his lack of postseason success against him when he's usually the less talented ball club.
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It's more of a gut feel. Counsell, to me, just doesn't inspire confidence. Espada has been here and he knows the players, they know him - and from all I've heard the players really like him. There will be other teams that want him, why wouldn't the Astros take their shot with him? We have a veteran heavy roster and almost all of them have been around Espada. I think they'd take to him much more than they would bringing in someone new. Just my opinion.
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Counsell is one of the most highly respected managers across the industry of baseball. The dude is extremely intelligent and up to date with analytics and is very advanced as far as baseball goes. He's also a former player with championship experience which is certainly valued. He's a fiery guy, very competitive, and players love to play for him.

Like Farmer said, it's fine to prefer Espada.. but I would take Counsell every time. Nothing against Espada. I really like the guy and I'll be perfectly happy if he's the next manager.
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I just want a manager who can figure out how to get this team to win at home consistently.

Oh and play the best players.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

I just want a manager who can figure out how to get this team to win at home consistently.

Oh and play the best players.
No matter the next manager, this right here may be the biggest difference between this past season and next.
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The fact that we've went from Aussmus and Ron Washington to debating between Espada and Consell is great. Espada and Consell are both home run hires IMO!
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I truly believe a piece of viewership going down the last few years is it being pushed back further. For one I dont understand why there are so many off days in the playoffs, that isnt the game of baseball and didnt use to be in the playoffs either. Go back to back to back games, maybe an off day in 7 game series after 5 but thats it. Also have the next round start immediately

And maybe an unpopular opinion, I still think there might be merit to a shorter season like 142. Add 2 expansion teams, reorganize into regional areas like discussed previously and add one more playoff team on each side to remove the bye (id only add more playoff teams if there are added expansion teams)
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But why do you care, sports suck again
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stoneca said:

The fact that we've went from Aussmus and Ron Washington to debating between Espada and Consell is great. Espada and Consell are both home run hires IMO!


This
KCup17
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So this begs the question… What 2 cities would be next for an expansion franchise?
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KCup17 said:

So this begs the question… What 2 cities would be next for an expansion franchise?


2 of….

Nashville, Salt Lake City, & Charlotte.
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I think you've got to look at Nasheville or Charlotte/Raleigh for one. Montreal is supposedly putting together an argument to get the Expos back and I think MLB still likes the idea, based on something I remember reading a few weeks back.

Portland I don't think would want/support a team and I don't see many other obvious candidates with Vegas taken care of.
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

I just want a manager who can figure out how to get this team to win at home consistently.

Oh and play the best players.
This year was the aberration to the past 7 years. This team has won at home during the golden age, and they will win at home next year.
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Beau Holder said:

I think you've got to look at Nasheville or Charlotte/Raleigh for one. Montreal is supposedly putting together an argument to get the Expos back and I think MLB still likes the idea, based on something I remember reading a few weeks back.

Portland I don't think would want/support a team and I don't see many other obvious candidates with Vegas taken care of.
Somewhere where the arrow is pointing up.



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Farmer1906 said:

KCup17 said:

So this begs the question… What 2 cities would be next for an expansion franchise?


2 of….

Nashville, Salt Lake City, & Charlotte.

I'd say personally Salt Lake and Nashville. I don't believe putting both new teams that far East makes sense but I think Nashville is a better option than Charlotte.

I do like the Montreal option though so that would be third for me.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Farmer1906 said:

KCup17 said:

So this begs the question… What 2 cities would be next for an expansion franchise?


2 of….

Nashville, Salt Lake City, & Charlotte.

I'd say personally Salt Lake and Nashville. I don't believe putting both new teams that far East makes sense but I think Nashville is a better option than Charlotte.

I do like the Montreal option though so that would be third for me.
You know the Braves would fight adding 2 teams in their territory.

The Cardinals probably wouldn't be happy about Nashville either.

Is Utah Dodgers or Rockies country? Neither seems right, they might need a team.
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Farmer1906 said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Farmer1906 said:

KCup17 said:

So this begs the question… What 2 cities would be next for an expansion franchise?


2 of….

Nashville, Salt Lake City, & Charlotte.

I'd say personally Salt Lake and Nashville. I don't believe putting both new teams that far East makes sense but I think Nashville is a better option than Charlotte.

I do like the Montreal option though so that would be third for me.
You know the Braves would fight adding 2 teams in their territory.

The Cardinals probably wouldn't be happy about Nashville either.

Is Utah Dodgers or Rockies country? Neither seems right, they might need a team.
SLC is Rockies.
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So if Montreal gets another team, would they have rights to the Expos or would that stay with the Nationals franchise?

This is important for Immaculate Grid purposes- it might mean the difference between me getting 4/9 versus 5/9, haha.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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It's gotta be the Rockies right? Maybe the Diamondbacks?
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