***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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Ag_07 said:

Counsell is the better candidate

This seems really quick to be making a decision. Has anyone even interviewed and offered him?

All I recall seeing is that certain teams are interested and he's a candidate at various places.
I'm not as impressed as others with his track record of under performing in the playoffs and his management tendencies so far. Regardless of his baseball mind. He has upside with our roster, but so does anyone else (see Dusty despite himself). He could also do really great here with a fresh start and more experience, but I don't see him as a sure thing.

I'd rather Espada who's already been managing quite a bit behind the scenes, is well respected by the clubhouse, and impressed in the 2 innings Dusty was thrown out. Then risking upsetting the team chemistry for "name" that doesn't have a wow factor of success. He already has a working relationship with the team, staff, and front office. There's no honeymoon period and it also helps build on our Latin American core.
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texasaggie2015 said:

This will be the first domino. I expect things to start moving after this


Sounds like the decision between between MIL & NYM. No one has mentioned HOU.
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Hader is #1 on my wishlist this offseason. Him or one of Luis Robert / Dylan Cease
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tjack16 said:

Hader is #1 on my wishlist this offseason. Him or one of Luis Robert / Dylan Cease
Hader seems to be the only one I think is possible. In my opinion, I don't think Robert or Cease is possible. Suppose we'll see.
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So would Hader be a setup guy, essentially replacing Neris? I don't see him replacing Pressly's spot as the closer.
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If the Astros somehow landed Hader (very slim odds) he would most likely be the closer.
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Wow.. most everyone in the industry thought Counsell to NYM was a done deal.
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So Counsell stays in Milwaukee and gets a substantial raise to do the same job?
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texasaggie2015 said:


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If Mets and Tribe openings are closed who else is left?

Giants
Astros
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texasaggie2015 said:

Was told this morning that Crane is very serious about Counsell but, as expected, it's unlikely he's willing to outbid the Mets. He loves him though and he checks just about every box.
FWIW- here's my post from last week.

I don't have new intel.
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I wonder if the Bob leak this morning on espada was a preemptive strike in prep for bringing in Counsel?
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Very possible. I've been told a few times that there's "an 80% chance" Espada gets the job and I wonder if that 20% hinged on Counsell's decision.
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So, surprise firing? Bochy retiring after one year?
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That's really interesting
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EastCoastAgNc said:


So, surprise firing? Bochy retiring after one year?
dodgers?
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Bochy rides off into the sunset and Rangers bring in Counsell?
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Maybe the Cardinals?
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texasaggie2015 said:

Bochy rides off into the sunset and Rangers bring in Counsell?
Only other manager I can think of who might be retiring age is Snitker in ATL
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EastCoastAgNc said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Bochy rides off into the sunset and Rangers bring in Counsell?
Only other manager I can think of who might be retiring age is Snitker in ATL
If he went to ATL, that would be wild.
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Maybe but seems we would have heard about it by now. Seems more likely a club firing somebody?
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I assumed Venable was basically manager in waiting in Arlington. If Rangers hire Counsell, Venable could be back in play for some openings that everyone assumed he was out on.
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Boone
Roberts

Wouldn't be surprised to see either gone
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BadAggie said:

Boone
Roberts

Wouldn't be surprised to see either gone
I'm still surprised Boone and Roberts are both still with their respective teams.
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Talk about throwing double birds at your old bosses
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Good. Now we can hire Espada and keep Altuve happy.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Talk about throwing double birds at your old bosses



Wow
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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Farmer1906 said:

Good. Now we can hire Espada and keep Altuve happy.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Talk about throwing double birds at your old bosses






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On top of it all, they hired him behind the back of franchise legend David Ross. Gotta suck to get fired like this...
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Ross has improved basically every year he's had the job this seems very crappy I'd imagine he gets a job sooner than later
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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