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— Arizona Diamondbacks (@Dbacks) October 12, 2023
2023 Postseason Discussion
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Dodgers Wondering If They Should Have Spent More Time Training For Playoffs And Less Time Honoring Satanic Drag Nuns https://t.co/rfiTtO2EUD pic.twitter.com/DSnOiVZlKl
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 12, 2023
Imagine finishing 14 games ahead of another team in back to back years, yet that team is somehow your daddy.
Farmer1906 said:
Imagine finishing 14 games ahead of another team in back to back years, yet that team is somehow your daddy.
Another year, another Phillies upset over the Braves.
— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) October 13, 2023
Last season, Philly had 14 fewer wins than Atlanta... this season Philly had 14 fewer wins than Atlanta...
It's the first time ever that one team eliminated another in consecutive postseasons after having 10 fewer wins each… pic.twitter.com/x3L0KqtCyF
Not many teams can. Astros know the feeling though
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
bearkatag15 said:Farmer1906 said:
Imagine finishing 14 games ahead of another team in back to back years, yet that team is somehow your daddy.Another year, another Phillies upset over the Braves.
— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) October 13, 2023
Last season, Philly had 14 fewer wins than Atlanta... this season Philly had 14 fewer wins than Atlanta...
It's the first time ever that one team eliminated another in consecutive postseasons after having 10 fewer wins each… pic.twitter.com/x3L0KqtCyF
Not many teams can. Astros know the feeling though
Except we only beat them in 2005.
Well go figure that ESPN gets a stat wrong.
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
It's right. We had 10+ fewer both times. It says only Philly won both.
To get the bye in the playoffs u need to win the fucking division.
— KingofJUCO (@KingofJUCO) October 13, 2023
And as a reward u don’t have to grind ur dick off in WC for survival.
And now ur gonna make excuses about the format cuz ur team lost?
It’s not the format, it’s ur team.
And they simply shit the bed.
D'backs & Phillies playing against each other - number of wins pic.twitter.com/ALI7WdBT9A
— Jay Cuda (@JayCuda) October 13, 2023
Pretty crazy how even these teams are over their recent history
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
Updated World Series Odds:
— DraftKings Sportsbook (@DKSportsbook) October 13, 2023
- HOU Astros (+180)
- PHI Phillies (+200)
- TEX Rangers (+260)
- ARI Diamondbacks (+450) pic.twitter.com/He3dSpuwBI
Hoping this thread or the trash talk picks up during the series. Much better than the "safe spaces" threads
Now through two rounds of playoffs, and 8 teams have been sent packing.
Those 8 teams include 5 division winners.
They include three 100-win teams.
They only had a combined 4 wins across 22 total games played.
They averaged 2.09 runs per game.
(And those stats are somewhat propped up by the Twins, who had 3 of the 4 wins and won their WC series).
The losing teams didn't just lose; they lost badly.
Those 8 teams include 5 division winners.
They include three 100-win teams.
They only had a combined 4 wins across 22 total games played.
They averaged 2.09 runs per game.
(And those stats are somewhat propped up by the Twins, who had 3 of the 4 wins and won their WC series).
The losing teams didn't just lose; they lost badly.
That's also the most days they've gone without real games all year. You've never played baseball/hit if you don't think that matters. You can't simulate real games.Booma94 said:Since the Wild Card began in 1993, 43 teams have won 100 or more games. 22 of those (51%) have lost in the Division Series or sooner.The Anchor said:Braves fan here. I am not making excuses. But, it seems like taking so much time off has affected these teams and got them out of rhythm.AgPediRPh said:
I'm surprised at the 100 win teams getting spanked this postseason!
Look at the Braves post season schedule:
Final game of season - 10/1
Five days off
First game of playoffs - 10/7
Day off
Second game
Day off
Third game
It has to be hard to maintain a rhythm with that jacked up schedule.
The post-season has had different formats for the Wild Card, but the numbers have held constant.
Since 2017 there have been 20 teams who have won over 100 games and 11 of those (55%) have lost in the Division Series or sooner.
The regular season is about the deepest rosters. The post-season is about who is hot at the right time.
Also doesn't help all 3 that lost were on cruise control, the Astro's Almost didn't make the playoffs so they were prepared for the urgency too.
Regardless it's a ****ty system. Might as well just make it 8 and get rid of the byes.
The Diamondbacks will go Zac Gallen Game 1, Merrill Kelly Game 2 and Brandon Pfaadt Game 3 against the Phillies, per @BNightengale pic.twitter.com/hbuSGM07ZY
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) October 13, 2023
The Dodgers rolled out Clayton Kershaw in game 1. They were a paper tiger built to beat up on the back end of rotations. There are no back ends in the playoffs.
The Astros are in their 7th LCS in a row. No surprise.
The Rangers were on pace for a historic run differential, have had solid starting pitching all season, had some bad injury luck, had about 7 all-stars. No surprise.
The Phillies were the runners-up last season. No surprise.
The Braves are the only surprise who didn't make it.
Re-seeding after the wild card round would be an easy fix. Atlanta-Arizona might have produced a different outcome.
Shall we take away the Twins' 1987 title since they were 87-75, had homefield advantage in the WS, and didn't win a single game on the road?
The Astros are in their 7th LCS in a row. No surprise.
The Rangers were on pace for a historic run differential, have had solid starting pitching all season, had some bad injury luck, had about 7 all-stars. No surprise.
The Phillies were the runners-up last season. No surprise.
The Braves are the only surprise who didn't make it.
Re-seeding after the wild card round would be an easy fix. Atlanta-Arizona might have produced a different outcome.
Shall we take away the Twins' 1987 title since they were 87-75, had homefield advantage in the WS, and didn't win a single game on the road?
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
I think if the Diamondbacks beat Philly, whoever wins the ALCS will beat them in the World Series. But if Philly wins the NLCS, they will probably win it all.
Why stop at 8 teams from each League, let's put in 15 teams from each league and force the bottom team to take the bye, putting them at a huge disadvantage by putting them straight through to the 2nd round.The Lost said:That's also the most days they've gone without real games all year. You've never played baseball/hit if you don't think that matters. You can't simulate real games.Booma94 said:Since the Wild Card began in 1993, 43 teams have won 100 or more games. 22 of those (51%) have lost in the Division Series or sooner.The Anchor said:Braves fan here. I am not making excuses. But, it seems like taking so much time off has affected these teams and got them out of rhythm.AgPediRPh said:
I'm surprised at the 100 win teams getting spanked this postseason!
Look at the Braves post season schedule:
Final game of season - 10/1
Five days off
First game of playoffs - 10/7
Day off
Second game
Day off
Third game
It has to be hard to maintain a rhythm with that jacked up schedule.
The post-season has had different formats for the Wild Card, but the numbers have held constant.
Since 2017 there have been 20 teams who have won over 100 games and 11 of those (55%) have lost in the Division Series or sooner.
The regular season is about the deepest rosters. The post-season is about who is hot at the right time.
Also doesn't help all 3 that lost were on cruise control, the Astro's Almost didn't make the playoffs so they were prepared for the urgency too.
Regardless it's a ****ty system. Might as well just make it 8 and get rid of the byes.
The 162 game season is already being diluted in importance by allowing 6 out of 15 teams into the post season, which is 40% of franchises. The best overall team doesn't always win the WS, it is a combination of putting together a solid season and earning your spot and being hot in October. Your proposal is 8/15 (53%) teams from each league make the playoffs and your team may lose to the 8 seed and not even make it to the NLDS versus getting a bye and not being prepared for 5 days rest.
Same argument occurred last year when Braves and Dodgers stunk up the NLDS series, maybe the organization should change their approach to the off days, maybe they are just cold, but the Astros (and Yankees last year) had no issues responding to 5 days off. I am assuming they didn't sit around eating Cheesy Puffs and playing Fortnight thinking they were destined for a WS.
Why not give the two highest seeds in each league the option:
1-wild card games at home or
2-five days off
How many pick option 2?
1-wild card games at home or
2-five days off
How many pick option 2?
I think the format is perfectly fine. If you told teams in April they could get 5 days off before the playoffs they would all say "wow that's awesome, we need the rest"
Next year if all the top seeds go 4-0 in the DS then everybody will be fine with it.
Next year if all the top seeds go 4-0 in the DS then everybody will be fine with it.
None. No team would risk its postseason life on an additional three game series.Panama Red said:
Why not give the two highest seeds in each league the option:
1-wild card games at home or
2-five days off
How many pick option 2?
Would there be anything wrong with having the two division winners who aren't playing in the wild card round play the opposite league's team one game each? In other words, this year Atlanta would have played Minnesota at home and Baltimore on the road (for example) and the Dodgers would have played at Minnesota and home against Baltimore. Play the games Tuesday and Thursday or Wednesday and Friday. None of the games would have counted for playoff purposes, but they would have allowed the teams to play and go through regular rotations -- or use whoever they want, at their choosing. Obviously, the games would have been televised.
These games wouldn't have been much different, competition wise, as late season games involving teams out of the race.
These games wouldn't have been much different, competition wise, as late season games involving teams out of the race.
If I'm a manager, why would I risk my starters before the playoffs in what effectively amounts to a preseason game? Nothing good can come of it. Take the rest 10/10 times.91AggieLawyer said:
Would there be anything wrong with having the two division winners who aren't playing in the wild card round play the opposite league's team one game each? In other words, this year Atlanta would have played Minnesota at home and Baltimore on the road (for example) and the Dodgers would have played at Minnesota and home against Baltimore. Play the games Tuesday and Thursday or Wednesday and Friday. None of the games would have counted for playoff purposes, but they would have allowed the teams to play and go through regular rotations -- or use whoever they want, at their choosing. Obviously, the games would have been televised.
These games wouldn't have been much different, competition wise, as late season games involving teams out of the race.
Gallen has not been the same since the all star break
Phillies pouring it on now
damn, this is ugly
I didn't watch any of the Arizona and LA series but watching the NLCS makes me wonder how AZ even got here.
Also, Phillies are going to be tough in the WS.
Also, Phillies are going to be tough in the WS.
Phillies and Rangers are hot right now for sure.
Are we really going to miss some baseball tonight to listen to Joe slur words in a national address?
We should have the option opt out and watch baseball lol
We should have the option opt out and watch baseball lol
I watched game 1 and 2 being up with a sick 2 year old. AZ was pounding the ball and getting good pitching. The starting pitcher for game 1 had never beaten the Dodgers in like a dozen tries... but did that night! Just random stuff like that.kyledr04 said:
I didn't watch any of the Arizona and LA series but watching the NLCS makes me wonder how AZ even got here.
Also, Phillies are going to be tough in the WS.
They played like a team with nothing to lose. I think making it this far is pretty great for AZ.
Game is on FS1, so it shouldn't be affected.
Pool ball
Imagine closing out a game after going up in dramatic fashion
MLB World Series Futures
— Odds Shark (@OddsShark) October 21, 2023
Astros -110
Phillies +235
Diamondbacks +450
Rangers +700 pic.twitter.com/HV3PSt5Sik
Updated World Series odds:
— BetMGM 🦁 (@BetMGM) October 21, 2023
- Astros +105
- Phillies +250
- Diamondbacks +400
- Rangers +700 pic.twitter.com/bDcHMZPuAV
Astros were +650 just 3 days ago.
Arizona up 3-2 top of the 7th.
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