Grapesoda2525 said:Reeks of desperation to me. Sorryfc2112 said:Evan Carter is headed to The Show. #StraightUpTX pic.twitter.com/8hY9kC6UcR
— Texas Rangers (@Rangers) September 7, 2023
fc2112 said:
Evan Carter not officially on the 40 or 26 man yet.
He'll take Garcia's spot on the 26 - will be interesting to see how he fits on the 40. Zak Kent hasn't been very good this year - DFA him?
Jonathan Hernandez is 27 and can't break into the worst bullpen in baseball.
I, of course, have been calling for Brad Miller to be liquidated for some time.
Grapesoda2525 said:Reeks of desperation to me. Sorryfc2112 said:Evan Carter is headed to The Show. #StraightUpTX pic.twitter.com/8hY9kC6UcR
— Texas Rangers (@Rangers) September 7, 2023
fc2112 said:
Evan Carter not officially on the 40 or 26 man yet.
He'll take Garcia's spot on the 26 - will be interesting to see how he fits on the 40. Zak Kent hasn't been very good this year - DFA him?
Jonathan Hernandez is 27 and can't break into the worst bullpen in baseball.
I, of course, have been calling for Brad Miller to be liquidated for some time.
AggieEP said:
I'd DFA Grossman, he's terrible and then Bochy wouldn't be tempted to platoon him with Carter.
At this point you want Carter to get as many ABs as possible and find out just what he can do. Shelving him against lefties will only delay his development if we want him to be the star he seems like he could be.
I'm still not sure if they actually knew what they were getting. I was very critical of this draft and Carter.Jimmy McNulty said:
Just remember when we drafted this kid, didn't all the pundits make fun of the rangers like it was a throw away pick. Even people on this board were upset. He's going to be good
Well no. We're not out of it. We've just dug a giant hole for ourselves.AggieEP said:
I'd DFA Grossman, he's terrible and then Bochy wouldn't be tempted to platoon him with Carter.
At this point you want Carter to get as many ABs as possible and find out just what he can do. Shelving him against lefties will only delay his development if we want him to be the star he seems like he could be.
gigem1223 said:AggieEP said:
I'd DFA Grossman, he's terrible and then Bochy wouldn't be tempted to platoon him with Carter.
At this point you want Carter to get as many ABs as possible and find out just what he can do. Shelving him against lefties will only delay his development if we want him to be the star he seems like he could be.
What?? Grossman is one our best hitters against LH pitching. He's terrible against righties though. You have to play him against lefties.
Vs LH - .908 OPS
Vs RH - .611 OPS
AggieEP said:
I'm not ready to waive the white flag on the playoffs, but I think most here would agree that as constructed, this team cannot win this year in the playoffs. We just don't have any reliable high leverage guys in the bullpen with confidence.
So while we can salvage and make the post season, once the front office makes the decision to bring up Carter instead of Harris or Foscue, that tells me that they know they can't win the world series this year, so they're going to try and season Carter up here and get an idea of if he can handle it.
AggieEP said:gigem1223 said:AggieEP said:
I'd DFA Grossman, he's terrible and then Bochy wouldn't be tempted to platoon him with Carter.
At this point you want Carter to get as many ABs as possible and find out just what he can do. Shelving him against lefties will only delay his development if we want him to be the star he seems like he could be.
What?? Grossman is one our best hitters against LH pitching. He's terrible against righties though. You have to play him against lefties.
Vs LH - .908 OPS
Vs RH - .611 OPS
This is a bit of selective statistics as he still has a 25%+ k rate against lefties, so while the OPS is good, it's not like Grossman is a sure thing against lefties. And if you look at his career numbers, he's an .800 OPS hitter against lefties, not horrible, but again this isn't like I'm saying to cut Babe Ruth here.
And most of my point here is that if you call up Carter, you believe in him as the future in the outfield, surely you aren't platooning him with Grossman. The hope is that Carter himself can provide a .850 OPS against lefties as well one day and the only way that happens is for him to get at bats and prove it.
If you look at Carter's splits in the minors, he's basically Juan Pierre against lefties right now, so he needs some real seasoning to be the star we want.
Some of you can say the season's not over, but this team cannot and will not win with this bullpen. It's time to get Carter the at bats he needs so that next year he's ready to contribute to a team that hopefully has a real shot at the world series.
Peter Klaven said:
So I fully expect us to continue to fade and ultimately miss the playoffs....but it sure seems like a lot of posters don't understand that we're a half game out of the playoffs with twenty three dang games to go.
Yeah it doesn't look good but we are not at white towel waving stage yet. If we get lucky and get a mariners esque hot streak we're right back in the 2 seed.
That being said, feel free to ridicule me next weekend when we're six games back.
For a 10 day injury replacement, they call up a guy not on the 40... I think the front office is telling us more than you think it is. I think Carter is better than those other guys too, but there are long term implications to starting Carter's clock now by putting him on the 40 and calling him up.gigem1223 said:AggieEP said:
I'm not ready to waive the white flag on the playoffs, but I think most here would agree that as constructed, this team cannot win this year in the playoffs. We just don't have any reliable high leverage guys in the bullpen with confidence.
So while we can salvage and make the post season, once the front office makes the decision to bring up Carter instead of Harris or Foscue, that tells me that they know they can't win the world series this year, so they're going to try and season Carter up here and get an idea of if he can handle it.
Or they think Carter is better than both Harris and Foscue (which he is). You're crazy if you think this front office is throwing in the towel when we're only .5 game out of the playoffs and have several games
Left with the teams in front of us.
rbtexan said:
Haven't posted in a couple of days, had surgery.
The Carter call-up tells me a couple of things. First, the team feels Carter is far enough along to at least tread water in the majors & will use this service time to prep him in expectation of him being a starting OF next season. Secondly, it says a lot about what the team thinks about Foscue and Harris that they didn't get called up, especially Harris, who is on the 40.
I maintain my belief that it was not the preference of the Rangers to call up Carter this season. There simply aren't any better options than him at this point in the high minors. It's not a "give-up" move as much as it is a "we don't have any other viable options" move.
I do think at this point the Rangers are a long shot to make the playoffs, and even if they do, it will be a short run IMO. Pitching is too injured (starters) and too crappy (bullpen). Also, if I'm in the Rangers front office, I'm looking to move Adolis at the first opportunity. He's 30 already and his value is higher than it will be in a couple of years. JMO
There's certainly a case to be made for keeping him. However, there are also legitimate reasons to move him. His age is one, his BA and OBP is low and his SO numbers are high. Great defensive player but history indicates his skills will begin to diminish post 30 yrs old, and possibly/probably become more injury prone (Mike Trout). He played a lot of CF for a big guy and that's a lot of wear & tear. If I could get a couple of big arm bullpen guys, even if they're prospects, I'd probably pull the trigger and trade him. That's just me, and like I said there's absolutely reasons to hang on to him. I just worry the Rangers will be the Rangers and keep him until he has absolutely no value whatsoever.WestTexasAg said:
I can't see getting enough for Adolis to warrant moving him. I know he has struggled lately, but he has been very productive for us for three years. He's also a tremendous outfielder that plays hard every night. I'm keeping that dude!
South Platte said:
Not an expert on MLB contracts and arbitration, but why would we move Garcia when he's super cheap and have 3 more years of him under arbitration? He's making $700,000. Where else do we find a guy with his numbers and arm at that salary?
