Wow Verlander to Astros. I'm shocked. Curious to see that deal
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Mr Gigem said:
Wow Verlander to Astros. I'm shocked. Curious to see that deal
Astros farm is depleted so my guess is they get full JV salary with prospects going to NYM or they gave up major league controllable players with some lottery tickets and will get some salary relief. Just my thoughts how this would work.
Double Talkin' Jive...
Verlander is a good get, but holy hell is it terrible business to let him walk in the offseason just to turnaround and pay prospect capital AND money to get him back.
They are sending their only top 100 prospect (#68), last year's #1 pick
Astros desperate to remain relevant.
Astros with a major steal. Verlander's no-trade basically allowed him to pick where he wanted to go out of his suitors, and he obviously chose/felt-comfortable with Houston.
Astros deadass just financed resigning verlander through Steve Cohen
— kyle (@knicks_tape99) August 1, 2023
LOL at having to send your #1 pick to get a guy you could have just extended 9 months ago
Cost them Gilbert and another guy in their top 10 - And they gotta pay all JVs money.
Details coming through - may be more.
EDIT: Ryan Clifford, their #4 prospect.
Details coming through - may be more.
EDIT: Ryan Clifford, their #4 prospect.
Clifford and Gilbert without getting any cash on a multi year deal is nuts. Very much an all-in this year deal
Traded their 1 and 2 (Clifford is a huge riser). Makes the Scherzer deal look a helluva lot better. Pretty massive overpay imo
"Top prospects in your system" doesn't mean as much if they aren't top prospects in baseball.
Gilbert is 80ish or so overall. Clifford isn't Top 100.
And still not completely clear on the salary side of things, but just like Scherzer it's an overpay for 2024 (especially if Mets kick in nothing) but that's what it costs to get him for the playoff stretch.
We would have been all over the equivalent deal if we had the opportunity.
Gilbert is 80ish or so overall. Clifford isn't Top 100.
And still not completely clear on the salary side of things, but just like Scherzer it's an overpay for 2024 (especially if Mets kick in nothing) but that's what it costs to get him for the playoff stretch.
We would have been all over the equivalent deal if we had the opportunity.
No word on the money yet.
PatriotAg02 said:
Astros desperate to remain relevant.
As they should. Their minor league system isn't exactly stocked with talent, so the window is likely closing, they need to try to stay relevant while they can.
Right now if I had to handicap it:
With Eovaldi and Heim returning (at somewhat normal production): Texas -120 to win the division
With just Eovaldi returning: Texas +120 to win the division
With no Eovaldi or Heim: Texas +200 to win the division
With Eovaldi and Heim returning (at somewhat normal production): Texas -120 to win the division
With just Eovaldi returning: Texas +120 to win the division
With no Eovaldi or Heim: Texas +200 to win the division
I don't lurk but just wanted to see how Houston die hards felt about it.
1. WE GOT 'EM!
2. We gave up our only good prospect.
3. That's ok as long as it's not also...
4. Gave away too much.
5. We have to win next year or two as we have no farm.
6. Rangers are stupid for being happy they have a good team again
1. WE GOT 'EM!
2. We gave up our only good prospect.
3. That's ok as long as it's not also...
4. Gave away too much.
5. We have to win next year or two as we have no farm.
6. Rangers are stupid for being happy they have a good team again
Scherzer vs. Verlander in September.
Book it.
Book it.
Looks like the Mets may be footing a big part of the bill on this deal too. That's gonna be a lot of money to players playing for other teams next year.
While I agree... it was the Astros #1 and #4 Prospects. We can talk about our equivalencies... and yes, for someone ranked between Porter and Leiter, would seemingly be worth the Prospects.Proposition Joe said:
"Top prospects in your system" doesn't mean as much if they aren't top prospects in baseball.
Gilbert is 80ish or so overall. Clifford isn't Top 100.
And still not completely clear on the salary side of things, but just like Scherzer it's an overpay for 2024 (especially if Mets kick in nothing) but that's what it costs to get him for the playoff stretch.
We would have been all over the equivalent deal if we had the opportunity.
I think the point is, the fact Gilbert was their highest prospect and he is only 68th (specifically) and he was their only Top100, speaks to how much thinner their farm will be moving forward. It can all change with injuries and jumps, but yikes.
Lorenzen to Phillies.
Things are moving.
Things are moving.
One prospect for Scherzer and $33MM is way overpaying?
So the mets effectively bought the Astros #1 and #4 prospects in returning JV to the team he was on last season? Peak front office management there.
FIFYCarlo4 said:
I don't lurk but just wanted to see how Houston die hards felt about it.
1. WE GOT 'EM!
2. We gave up our only good prospect.
3. That's ok as long as it's not also...
4. Gave away too much.
5. We have to win next year or two as we have no farm.
6. Rangers are stupid for being happy they have a good team again
7. Kate Upton rally boobs are back!
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I know it's summer, but come on mods.
South Platte said:
I know it's summer, but come on mods.
Most mods are Astros fans and seem to be very slow to remove trolls over here.
World's worst proofreader
Scherzer opted in. Here's here thru 2024, dumbass. Rangers gave up one buried prospect.
The duality of Astros fans:
— Dallas Blankenship (@DBlank26) August 1, 2023
Make fun of the Rangers for trading their No. 4 prospect for a 39 year old pitcher and 21 million
*2 days later*
Downplay trading their No. 1 and 4 prospects for a 40 year old pitcher and say it was a smart move
How does that make sense?
"I'm not trolling, I'm just stupid"
They just can't help themselves. Pathetic.
DannyDuberstein said:
"I'm not trolling, I'm just stupid"
Aren't they the same thing
World's worst proofreader
DannyDuberstein said:
"I'm not trolling, I'm just stupid"
I don't want either guy in 2025
What a dweeb
And if Verlander hits 140 inning next year which is not a high bar, they are on the hook for another $15 mill for what will be an extremely old-ass arm in 25 LOL. Again, zero interest in paying for either guy in 2025.
Wtf is Steve Cohen doing lol?
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