***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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No Yordan
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Maybe Yordan got on a private jet to Oakland very early this morning. Someone check FlightAware.
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Post from ~6 hours ago said he was going to be there tonight. Maybe a pinch hit at-bat? Or maybe something else?


Nevermind. I see Chandler's tweet above.
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Some private jet owned by Tom Peacock Nissan and Cadillac went from Houston to Oakland today. Thought I was onto something.
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I know I'm being (slightly) desperate to get Yordan back in the lineup, but AAA rehab games are so stupid. Especially when the As are the current opponent


I do believe they are less stupid for pitchers
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It's not about who they're playing or the competition. It's about letting him go at an easier pace and ease into things. That's really important coming off an injury like he had.
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I found our bullpen help
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Cease is elite. I would be extremely pleased with that. We've got quite a bit of outfield talent stockpiled, so losing Gilbert wouldn't give me any heartburn.
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texasaggie2015 said:



I found our bullpen help
Sketchy at best
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Astros PSA- If anyone is interested in Astros Gold Merchandise the jerseys and hats are on sale at the outfield store at MinuteMaid. The men's jerseys have been dropped down to $75 and were previously $175. There is still a good selection.
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Cease would be under team control for 2024 and 2025
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Cease and Frambler would have to be the best 1 2 Punch in the MLB. In addition, if Javier can get back to his usual self then a rotation of Valdez, Cease, Javier, Urquidy, and HB/France would be pretty salty.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

texasaggie2015 said:



I found our bullpen help
Sketchy at best


And ran his mouth.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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redline248 said:

What is the thought behind taking a hard stance on not moving Gilbert? Just no for a rental, or is it because Tucker is likely gone in a few year?
yes
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How is he different than Montero? I don't see giving up prospects for any lateral move acquisitions
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He was DFAd so he wouldn't take any assets. He's essentially a free agent.

Lets just hope Bagwell doesn't find out he's available.
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I really hope you guys know I was kidding about Tepera.....
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Dubon
Pena
Tucker
Bregman
Abreu
McCormick
Julks DH
Diaz
Meyers
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I wonder how many other playoff caliber teams put 2 guys under .690 OPS at the top of the order
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redline248 said:

Dubon
Pena
Tucker
Bregman
Abreu
McCormick
Julks DH
Diaz
Meyers

Looks solid given what we know we're working with. Wonder who ripped the lineup card out of Dusty's hands.
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yep, that's a tough way to do business

on-base % be damned
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redline248 said:

I wonder how many other playoff caliber teams put 2 guys under .690 OPS at the top of the order
From yesterday's games, and 1 or 2 that completed today...only the Diamondbacks put a guy in the top 2 spots under .700, and best I can tell he's not the normal leadoff guy.

Orioles - .821/.843
Tampa - .909/.914
Rangers - .792/1.023
Bluejays - .755/.849
Twins - .715/.968

Dodgers - .954/.957
Braves - 1.002/.830
Dbacks - .688/.847
Giants - .778/.778
Reds - .766/.794
Brewers - .838/.801
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redline248 said:

redline248 said:

I wonder how many other playoff caliber teams put 2 guys under .690 OPS at the top of the order
From yesterday's games, and 1 or 2 that completed today...only the Diamondbacks put a guy in the top 2 spots under .700, and best I can tell he's not the normal leadoff guy.

Orioles - .821/.843
Tampa - .909/.914
Rangers - .792/1.023
Bluejays - .755/.849
Twins - .715/.968

Dodgers - .954/.957
Braves - 1.002/.830
Dbacks - .688/.847
Giants - .778/.778
Reds - .766/.794
Brewers - .838/.801


Old school Dusty strikes again.
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Don't even old school guys value walks? Dubon and Pena are 3% and 5% BB rates.

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I was thinking about him today. I know we've called about Rodriguez but hadn't heard about Lorenzen.
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Nah. Old school guys want that batting average. Get on base and maybe try to steal. That what you need at the top. Web really you want a top tier on base guy and your best hitter.
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The more I sit with the possibilities, the more I am inclined to roll with the hitters we have and invest in Cease plus more pitching.

Someone mentioned before a trade package that had us getting back Benintendi, which turned my stomach. But I wonder if Chicago would throw in 20 million (5 million per year for Belli's remaining 4 years after this year). If so, Benintendi would turn into a slightly inferior Brantley that would give you a high OBP lefty that would slot in well in the 9 slot.

Instead of Cease + Robert, maybe we should look at Cease plus more from a pool of Graveman, Bummer, Giolito, Grandal, and Benintendi.
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I've heard the same about all four of these and think I've mentioned them here. Add Eduardo Rodriguez and James Paxton to this as well.
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Obviously prices and negotiations are not equal, but I would rank those this way:
Cease
Rodriguez
Paxton
Lorenzen
Stroman
Lynn

As has been said, I don't trust Stroman to be happy and produce with us. And Lynn is just washed up.
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Do not want Lynn.
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What has Lorenzen done to make him more effective this year? He wasn't impressive with the Angels and seemed to remember knocking him out early a few times
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redline248 said:

Don't even old school guys value walks? Dubon and Pena are 3% and 5% BB rates.

barf


Dusty was on record at a previous job (Chicago?) about not caring about OBA.

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The genius who famously said "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."
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