If they bring in (and this is just an example) Cody Bellinger, that's one outfielder that would replace one of them. Once Altuve is healthy, that moves Dubon to the bench. It would work out.

I'm just being honest here. Names I see being dealt and this is about to ruffle a few:

Leon
Lee
Julks
Chaz
Blanco
Melton

Dana has said many times that we would be aggressive at the trade deadline. I'm going to hold him to that.

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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I'm just being honest here. Names I see being dealt and this is about to ruffle a few:

Leon
Lee
Julks
Chaz
Blanco
Melton

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Don't trade Melton please.

Yeah, that scenario I gave out is kind of a "if the chips fall just right" scenario. It's what I expect Houston's goal to be.

Obviously just one of those things can happen. Maybe all three happen. But I think that's what they're aiming for.

Good stuff. Thank you for sharing.

Moving Meyers is a non-issue for me. Good kid, leaves a lot to be desired.

I really like Julks and would be sad to see him go but I understand the cost of doing business. Gravemann doesn't do a whole lot for me though. He was pretty mediocre during his last stint here. But that seems to be an outlier from his body of work, so I'd give it the benefit of the doubt.

I'd be really sad to see Blanco or France go. They've both outperformed expectations this season.

Question- what do you make of Tucker's pitch to Ohtani?

texasaggie2015 said:

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They think Arrighetti has a higher upside and that he's close. I love France and I'm right there with you.. but if they believe Arrighetti is close, I think that leaves France dispensable if you believe it gets you closer to a championship.

There's a few guys who are kind of similar... France, Blanco, Arrighetti, Colton Gordon, Rhett Kouba. It makes sense to deal one of these guys if the return is right. Especially if you're bringing in a proven arm. Teams put a lot of value in arms with club control.

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I am ranking who I want to keep from most to least, it would go.

• Arrighetti (IDK until he is here, but I think his ceiling is highest)
• France (I think he has a future as a 4/5 in the rotation)
• Blanco (I think he'd be more effective in the bullpen)
• Bielak (worst stuff, lowest ceiling)

Holding off on Gordan & Kouba, both made it to AA this year.

If we move 2 of the bottom 3 for pieces to help this year and next, I am all for it.

Wabs said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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I'm just being honest here. Names I see being dealt and this is about to ruffle a few:

Leon
Lee
Julks
Chaz
Blanco
Melton

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Don't trade Melton please.

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I think it is way too early to trade Melton unless we're getting something huge back. He's still 22, hits for power, steals bases, and bats from the left side.

Thanks. I have no hopes for Ohtani. I was more interested in his comments from a re-signing Tucker perspective. Made me feel like there could be more hope than I thought.

That's what I figured, I just flipped them because I think we're going to end up in a situation where that's the ask, and his inclusion won't be allowed to stop a trade.

Part of me wants him to get traded and have a shot to get away from Dusty also.

He's the last one on that list I want to see traded.

But everything you listed is why he will be discussed. Trades aren't one sided so we have to lose pieces we don't want to

Again, I just want to make it clear that all my posts are just little tidbits of info from what I'm told and what I hear. Things can obviously change.

Chas has got to be campaigning for a trade (or at least he should be).

Right, but he's our "#2 prospect" and was only drafted just last year. I doubt he's moved unless it's for something huge. I think Dana is more inclined to use his more ready guys to make a deal.

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Chas has got to be campaigning for a trade (or at least he should be).

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That or Dana is about to trade away most of his other options.

W said:

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Dana has to simplify the outfield situation for Dusty

too many options is bad...because it will result in Yanier on the bench when Yordan returns

Meyers' OPS is down to .676

13 of 74 at the plate in June & July

good luck getting much for him

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He has more value than you think. He's a good outfielder and there's belief he hasn't come close to putting it all together yet.

Will he bring in a haul? No. But I do think he would be attractive to a smaller market team that wants to see what he can do. The years of team control are very valuable.

texasaggie2015 said:

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W said:

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Dana has to simplify the outfield situation for Dusty

too many options is bad...because it will result in Yanier on the bench when Yordan returns

Meyers' OPS is down to .676

13 of 74 at the plate in June & July

good luck getting much for him

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He has more value than you think. He's a good outfielder and there's belief he hasn't come close to putting it all together yet.

Will he bring in a haul? No. But I do think he would be attractive to a smaller market team that wants to see what he can do. The years of team control are very valuable.

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Probably not too dissimilar to Siri. He had like a .540 OPS. Siri plus a prospect got us Mancini and a prospect.

Now the arm we gave to Baltimore looks way more interesting than what we got from Tampa but neither were way up any prospect list.

Yea, I think it's pretty simple. If a team calls and says "we'll give you player x for Chas or Jake, your choice", we give them Jake. But that's not how it works. We'll get one set of offers for Chas. We'll get another set of slightly worse offers for Jake. Whichever one we think addresses our needs best is the one we'll take.

It's kinda hard for me to imagine us trading Chas without acquiring another player who can man CF though (ie Bellinger). Committing to Jake in CF for the rest of the season seems a little risky. But with that said, we do have Dubon as an insurance policy in CF later this year if we trade Chas and Jake gets the job but doesn't perform.

Exactly. Think of Kansas City. They would probably value a guy like Meyers who has years of control and isn't costing a lot of money.

They have Carlos Hernandez who is a young bullpen arm who would do wonders for the Astros this year. Maybe they would be intrigued by Meyers + prospect for him.

Plus Meyers is from Omaha... not super from from KC.

Farmer1906 said:

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I agree. No way we trade Chas without getting another CFer back.

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At least getting one back that Dusty would play.

Random Siri note I just noticed.

For guys with a min of 200 PAs, Siri ranks 240th out of 249th in OBP @ .266.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Random Siri note I just noticed.

For guys with a min of 200 PAs, Siri ranks 240th out of 249th in OBP @ .266.

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More HRs than any Astros player outside of Yordan.

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He doesn't get on base

Farmer1906 said:

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Red Sox could be interested in Dubon

Dubon for Verdugo straight up. Who says no?

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No. Good utility INF/OF under team control don't grow on trees.

Farmer1906 said:

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Red Sox could be interested in Dubon

Dubon for Verdugo straight up. Who says no?

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Seems like a big gamble with how much time our middle infield has missed this season. Is the reward worth the risk? I haven't watched the Red Sox much this season, and the Astros love their "super utility" guys.