***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Dana needs to be the responsible adult in the room and move Madris back off the roster or he will enter Julks territory.


What if we only carried 9 position players? Then Dusty wouldn't have a choice.

A really smart and handsome poster suggested this yesterday or before. Who could that have been? Hmmm.


Dang. I missed it.

But at least you saw the Cintron post indirectly directed at you.

Yeah, I'm irrationally hard on Cintron... and I readily admit it. The question is how unjustified is the judgment? I think he should wear quite a bit of it because of the lack of performance overall. Show me players improving over last year- so far, I don't see any.

I get that players have their own hitting coaches, but the position would not exist if it were irrelevant. Do your job and show results. I do not think Cintron has shown any and the results prove that out on balance.
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What gets me about the Cintron hate is that A) Snitker is a hitting coach too but never gets mentioned and B) he never gets credit when hitters get better.

What about Dubon and Meyers this year? Yanier has gotten better and is adjusting well. The adjustment he made with Yordan last year during the playoffs. Abreu improving lately.
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Ag_07 said:

What gets me about the Cintron hate is that A) Snitker is a hitting coach too but never gets mentioned and B) he never gets credit when hitters get better.

What about Dubon and Meyers this year? Yanier has gotten better and is adjusting well. The adjustment he made with Yordan last year during the playoffs. Abreu improving lately.
Is Meyers improved or is he just fully recovered from injury, finally?

Dubon said earlier this year that taking to Yordan helped him be a better hitter.

I have wondered about the 2 hitting coach positions, also. Maybe 1 is for mechanical adjustments and the other is for game plan on attacking opposing pitchers?
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And neither of those things are improving!
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Is Dusty hinting that Javier is pitching hurt?
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Crossing another stadium off my list tonight.


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I don't take it that way. Just that he's off right now and may get an extra day. Maybe even an extra week.
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Phrasing said:

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Is Dusty hinting that Javier is pitching hurt?
They might go back to the 6-man rotation to give him some extra time off, though the timing of doing that couldn't be much worse with who they have to play this weekend. He's clearly worn out. His velocity is down around 91-92, where it was 94-95 last year.
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Maybe don't foreshadow success for the opponent before the game starts...
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Maybe don't foreshadow success for the opponent before the game starts...


"He's a veteran and an established star but I trust our guys to attack tonight and come out on top" - what Dusty should have said instead
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Man we really need a win tonight. Big difference between 5 and 6 GB heading into a 4 game series against the division leaders
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tjack16 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Maybe don't foreshadow success for the opponent before the game starts...


"He's a veteran and an established star but I trust our guys to attack tonight and come out on top" - what Dusty should have said instead


"You saw us score 10 last night. We're ****ed tonight."
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Maybe don't foreshadow success for the opponent before the game starts...


Solution to him being tricky? Don't give him the chance to be tricky. Swing at the first pitch.
- Johnny B Baker Jr
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Ag_07 said:

What gets me about the Cintron hate is that A) Snitker is a hitting coach too but never gets mentioned and B) he never gets credit when hitters get better.

What about Dubon and Meyers this year? Yanier has gotten better and is adjusting well. The adjustment he made with Yordan last year during the playoffs. Abreu improving lately.

Dubon, I'll give you. I don't know if that is the hitting coaches or not, but if I criticize them for the down sides I must give them credit for the upside. The one upside.

Meyers has a 93 OPS+ YTD after a 107 rating his rookie year. Part of it may be injury related, but he's not a valid success story at this point.

Abreu has a long way to go just to where he was career-wise, so I'm not sure how Cintron has done his job just yet. "Oh he doesn't suck as bad as he did two months ago" is not a metric of success.

Alvarez has a career 163 OPS+ with a 166 rating YTD. He had a phenomenal 2022 season, but a career low in 2021. Cintron was there for both, so do they wash out? Regardless, he has been a star since he got here and his numbers are maintaining, so I guess Cintron can get credit for not screwing him up?

Diaz is a rookie playing part of a season, and not even full time at that. I don't know how you can baseline his performance to tell if he's improving or not. I'll take your word for it if there's evidence to the contrary.

So, most of your examples- and even those were hard to find- do not support the argument you are trying to make. Just my opinion, which I grant is probably skewed by me wanting to find some common theme to the disappointment of this year. Dusty 1, Cintron 2. That's my story!
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Phrasing said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Is Dusty hinting that Javier is pitching hurt?
They might go back to the 6-man rotation to give him some extra time off, though the timing of doing that couldn't be much worse with who they have to play this weekend. He's clearly worn out. His velocity is down around 91-92, where it was 94-95 last year.

I bet we see Bielak for one of those games. Maybe the Sunday game and give Framber an extra day of rest?

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yeesh, Wainwright is 13-1 all-time vs. Houston
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W said:

yeesh, Wainwright is 13-1 all-time vs. Houston
How many of those did he have Albert to lean on? I mean good Albert, not the one who needed the rigged bats and balls last year.
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W said:

yeesh, Wainwright is 13-1 all-time vs. Houston

Not the same Wainwright, so hopefully that changes!

As my dad used to say, hope in one hand and... in the other.
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Altuve flies out but took 8 pitches to do so

big difference as compared to Dubon
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Wow. Edman was playing super shallow there. If Altuve gaps one Edman would have no chance.
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Why was the center fielder playing so shallow?
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Bregman singles
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My shoulder would still be floppong around in shallow left center if I had tried to make that catch.
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I remember a game in 05 (I think) when the Redbirds came to Houston with like a 2 game lead. Wainwright vs Oswalt (I think) and we ended up winning after he dominated us for 7 innings.
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good grief, that was way low
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That's BS.
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Are we already starting this blue
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72 mph whiff. Ouch.
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I think Wainwright is sticking around to reach 200 career wins

currently at 198
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Abreu walks
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Putting some pitches on the vet early. That's good.
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Come on. High and low?
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26 pitches in the 1st
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The center fielder is playing us way in. Can't wait to hit it over that losers head
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