Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

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Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

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Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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Abreu was a guy they desperately wanted when he was signing in 2013, but they couldn't work out a deal. This to me reeks of a "he was good back then and he's available now, lets go get him". His regression last year should have been a warning. I'm by no means a Yuli guy, but we could have done better than Abreu. We should have let someone else make that mistake.

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

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Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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Abreu was a guy they desperately wanted when he was signing in 2013, but they couldn't work out a deal. This to me reeks of a "he was good back then and he's available now, lets go get him". His regression last year should have been a warning. I'm by no means a Yuli guy, but we could have done better than Abreu. We should have let someone else make that mistake.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

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Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

---

Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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I loved to too.

The point of my comment is on the surface is the original deal, the biggest issue was the third year. No one would fathom he'd post as below .600 OPS thru June this year.

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AggiEE said:

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I just hope this game represents a pivotal shift in our energy as a team. Maybe it's time to lose a game like this and really light a fire under the team's ass thanks to Stanek's passion and a really painful loss.

Sometimes you need losses like this to wake everyone up. I'm trying to be optimistic because there's no reason we should be doing this badly so far. We're a much better team than what we're playing like recently.

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

---

Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

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I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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I loved to too.

The point of my comment is on the surface is the original deal, the biggest issue was the third year. No one would fathom he'd post as below .600 OPS thru June this year.

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What if his bat speed dropped 20% the 2nd half. What if he was dealing with vision issues. What if he is actually older than he says. If I'm in charge of paying him 60M I find out as much as humanly possibly. I have an army of nerds that can project forward.

Maybe there were zero red flags and baseball is baseball. I can't accept it. But from our perspective we don't have the full picture.

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I agree with you. It's tough to say either way, but I still don't think anyone would have expected what has transpired. I think it's tough to say signing him at all was 100% a mistake at the time.

I will say I don't think Click would have made that deal with the 3rd year. Honestly, that's the real problem I have is firing your GM and then making two big deals, of which both aren't performing.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

---

Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

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Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

---

I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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I loved to too.

The point of my comment is on the surface is the original deal, the biggest issue was the third year. No one would fathom he'd post as below .600 OPS thru June this year.

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What if his bat speed dropped 20% the 2nd half. What if he was dealing with vision issues. What if he is actually older than he says. If I'm in charge of paying him 60M I find out as much as humanly possibly. I have an army of nerds that can project forward.

Maybe there were zero red flags and baseball is baseball. I can't accept it. But from our perspective we don't have the full picture.

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I agree with you. It's tough to say either way, but I still don't think anyone would have expected what has transpired. I think it's tough to say signing him at all was 100% a mistake at the time.

I will say I don't think Click would have made that deal with the 3rd year. Honestly, that's the real problem I have is firing your GM and then making two big deals, of which both aren't performing.

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While it's not huge deal total money wise but making the decision the pass on a lot of LF and left handed options to settle on Brantley ended up being another HUGE mistake.

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stoneca said:

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If I had told you after winning the World Series that on June 24th we'd be 6.5 games back in the division and only 5 games over .500 you would've thought it was impossible. But with Dusty Baker nothing is impossible, except for being a good manager

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

---

Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

---

Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

---

I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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I loved to too.

The point of my comment is on the surface is the original deal, the biggest issue was the third year. No one would fathom he'd post as below .600 OPS thru June this year.

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What if his bat speed dropped 20% the 2nd half. What if he was dealing with vision issues. What if he is actually older than he says. If I'm in charge of paying him 60M I find out as much as humanly possibly. I have an army of nerds that can project forward.

Maybe there were zero red flags and baseball is baseball. I can't accept it. But from our perspective we don't have the full picture.

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I agree with you. It's tough to say either way, but I still don't think anyone would have expected what has transpired. I think it's tough to say signing him at all was 100% a mistake at the time.

I will say I don't think Click would have made that deal with the 3rd year. Honestly, that's the real problem I have is firing your GM and then making two big deals, of which both aren't performing.

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While it's not huge deal total money wise but making the decision the pass on a lot of LF and left handed options to settle on Brantley ended up being another HUGE mistake.

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Agree with you. Not addressing OF or left handed options to gamble on Brantley has been a risk that has not paid off.

Also frustrating to me Chas can't out right earn the job.

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MaxPower said:

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What alternative LF do you think we could have gotten? Conforto has been not terrible but he is a butcher in the OF. Rather they just played Chas in LF.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beat40 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Beat40 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Beau Holder said:

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Crane said one ring was good enough. Good for him. Good job.

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Nah. He committed 100 M in the offseason. His head got too damn big and he thought he knew better. He clearly did not.

---

Fired a competent GM just to give too much money for a reliever and a year too many for an aging 1B.

Just frustrating.

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Try 3 years too many...

---

Did you honestly think Abreu was going to be this bad?

---

I keep seeing posts like this when people are pissed about signings. It doesn't matter what the fans think because fans aren't responsible for making these decisions. Fans aren't privy to a lot of information about players. Fans don't know what other options there truly were.

I loved the signing tho.

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I loved to too.

The point of my comment is on the surface is the original deal, the biggest issue was the third year. No one would fathom he'd post as below .600 OPS thru June this year.

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What if his bat speed dropped 20% the 2nd half. What if he was dealing with vision issues. What if he is actually older than he says. If I'm in charge of paying him 60M I find out as much as humanly possibly. I have an army of nerds that can project forward.

Maybe there were zero red flags and baseball is baseball. I can't accept it. But from our perspective we don't have the full picture.

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I agree with you. It's tough to say either way, but I still don't think anyone would have expected what has transpired. I think it's tough to say signing him at all was 100% a mistake at the time.

I will say I don't think Click would have made that deal with the 3rd year. Honestly, that's the real problem I have is firing your GM and then making two big deals, of which both aren't performing.

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While it's not huge deal total money wise but making the decision the pass on a lot of LF and left handed options to settle on Brantley ended up being another HUGE mistake.

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Agree with you. Not addressing OF or left handed options to gamble on Brantley has been a risk that has not paid off.

Also frustrating to me Chas can't out right earn the job.

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Yup. We're on the same page. Lots of frustration and blame to throw around.

Even with it, we're not doomed just yet. Lots of baseball left. Dana has semi dealt with major problems at a trade deadline before. The Braves saved their season and won a title without Acuña by added a bunch of pieces (no stars).

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