***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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If all he does is win titles I'll put up with him

No shlt

I'll take that trade off
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Ag_07 said:

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If all he does is win titles I'll put up with him

No shlt

I'll take that trade off
Sounds good, but, texags users will still complain about him and his lineups incessantly. this thread will still be nearly insufferable
https://ts.la/eric59704
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Dies Irae
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FUBO is different than MLB League pass correct? I should have no problem watching the games in Oklahoma next week will I?
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Yes

FUBO is live streaming service just like DirectTV or YoutubeTV or any of the other options.

But yeah you shouldn't have any problem since FUBO gets ATTSportsNet
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a bit surprising to say that publicly

sounds like Dana is getting impatient

Machete has cooled way off --- currently on a 4 for 28 jag

Abreu's WAR is down to -1.6
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Finally reading this. I have to say something I don't think I ever expected to say. Chandler is growing on me.

Right out of the gates, Chandler is not pulling punches.

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TORONTO About a month into his first season as a general manager, Dana Brown sensed some stunted development. He constructed his first opening day roster prioritizing offense and put one of his top prospects in a position to augment it.

Explanations in both private and public painted Yainer Diaz as a solution to help make up for Jose Altuve and Michael Brantley's early-season absences. The Astros carried Diaz and Csar Salazar as backup catchers to veteran starter Martn Maldonado, a setup that allowed manager Dusty Baker flexibility to start Diaz elsewhere and not worry about his catching coverage on the bench.

On paper, the decision was rooted in logic. In practice, none of it was applied. Baker bypassed Diaz for almost all of April and into May, turning his debut season into one without much rhyme or reason.

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"I like when he's in the lineup. I like what he brings to the table. I like that he has power, his OPS is climbing. Ultimately, I'd like to see him in the lineup more," Brown said before Tuesday's game at Rogers Centre. "But Dusty is running the team, he's the manager, and it's his job ultimately to find a place for him to get in the lineup. I think he will do that. I think it's a matter of the dog days of August, the middle of July, he could get a little bit more time."

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"I think Dusty worked him in there. It would have been nice to see him a little bit more," Brown said. "But, you know what, I'm not in Dusty's shoes. I'm not writing the lineup. It's his job and it's his call. I think he played him enough that he got some good at-bats in, but once he started playing a little bit more, I think he's cleaning up the approach a little bit and the OPS is on the rise.

"Losing development time is big for a young prospect," Brown continued. "I think now that he's playing a little bit more, he's actually starting to get in a groove a little bit. As long as he can continue to do that, I think that's very good. The development time is important and that's one of the things we worried some about with carrying the three catchers (was): is he going to lose development time while playing?"
Another punch landed from Rome:


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Baker's offense needs to score, too. Diaz has started 19 games this season. Houston has scored five or more runs in 10 of them. Diaz boasts a 113 OPS+ and is slugging .486. The Astros are a better offensive team when he's in the lineup. For a team entering Tuesday with a .722 OPS 18th of 30 major-league lineups finding any sort of offensive spark feels mandatory.

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Dana Brown believes so, too. Finding more at-bats for Diaz, be they at designated hitter or first base, is what the general manager wants. He will trust his manager to make it happen, but carrying two catchers only complicates matters.
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Now that the DH is gone, and technology is what it is, I don't understand why teams don't have pitching and position player/offense coordinators in a booth just being nerds. Setting lineups and giving the head coach advice during in game.
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I decided to take Pirates -1.5 since the A's are complete ass and now I want to throw myself out the window
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The Oakland A's are currently venting their entire pent-up frustration on the Pirates; up 5-0 in the top of the first with two men on and 1 out.
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I want to cry hahaha
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texasaggie2015 said:

I decided to take Pirates -1.5 since the A's are complete ass and now I want to throw myself out the window
HA, I almost took them myself; but forgot it was an early game and when I went to bet the line was gone. I had posted my last comment before I saw yours.
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Another interesting one is the Mariners vs the Padres; I'm trying to figure out why the Padres are -200 to win. Kirby has been pitching very well for the M's and Wacha has been outpitching his expected numbers.
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You sure you're seeing that right? Both of my books have them a -112 or -115
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texasaggie2015 said:

You sure you're seeing that right? Both of my books have them a -112 or -115
I checked again and it's the same as yours. I think I mixed it up with the KC line. Glad I did more research.
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07ag said:

Ag_07 said:

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If all he does is win titles I'll put up with him

No shlt

I'll take that trade off
Sounds good, but, texags users will still complain about him and his lineups incessantly. this thread will still be nearly insufferable
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This is the same thing with Straw/McCormick/Meyers.

Straw was never supposed to be the everyday player. GM had to force McCormick and Meyers into the line-up.

It's just to bad Diaz wasn't getting DH opportunities in April and May. He'd be so much furhther along at this point. The 3 catchers made so much since. Sucks we had to go down to 2 in order to get Diaz more playing time. That's pretty crazy, actually.
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Dana is known for his temper. Seems like he's reaching a breaking point about this by going public with it. This will be interesting.
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Beat40 said:

This is the same thing with Straw/McCormick/Meyers.

Straw was never supposed to be the everyday player. GM had to force McCormick and Meyers into the line-up.

It's just to bad Diaz wasn't getting DH opportunities in April and May. He'd be so much furhther along at this point. The 3 catchers made so much since. Sucks we had to go down to 2 in order to get Diaz more playing time. That's pretty crazy, actually.
Yup. Not only did Click get his way by getting Siri/McCormick/Meyers more PT, but he turned it into Maton & Diaz. Could be his single greatest move as a GM outside of the Alvarez extension.
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He is already saying more publically about what he wants and what is happening than Click or Luhnow ever did. Jeff had so much damn control he likely got what he wanted with AJ / AJ was on the same page as Jeff on PT, lineups, etc.
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And this outspokenness is refreshing to say the least
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So that lineup is something
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Farmer1906 said:

Beat40 said:

This is the same thing with Straw/McCormick/Meyers.

Straw was never supposed to be the everyday player. GM had to force McCormick and Meyers into the line-up.

It's just to bad Diaz wasn't getting DH opportunities in April and May. He'd be so much furhther along at this point. The 3 catchers made so much since. Sucks we had to go down to 2 in order to get Diaz more playing time. That's pretty crazy, actually.
Yup. Not only did Click get his way by getting Siri/McCormick/Meyers more PT, but he turned it into Maton & Diaz. Could be his single greatest move as a GM outside of the Alvarez extension.
Does trading for Maton and Diaz even happen without Straw starting for a while before the deadline? I seem to remember Dusty not even wanting to make that trade, but maybe that's revisionist history.
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I kinda like Altuve in the 2 hole. Breggy in front of Tuve would be interesting.
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If Kessinger starts to kill it can we start the hashtag #GraePride
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Altuve used to be in the 2 hole when George was leadoff, right?
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Dana speaking publicly is using it as a tool against Dusty. Dana probably didn't need to say anything publicly since he played the Salazzar card. He's just adding emphasis.

Click didn't say anything because he knew he had cards to play, and he played them via trades. People take the fact that Click was not resigned and the differences between him and Crane as he was weak. The trade he made for Straw to get Dusty to play Jake/Chas shows the opposite.

Lunhow and AJ were on the same page, so nothing needed there.
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oh, Dusty got the memo

will be interesting to see how Bassitt attacks the lineup. He calls his own game
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Sliders/sweepers
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Another day off for Pena. Julks is getting plenty opportunities to shine this year, and with him being 27 years old, I'm sure he wouldn't mind a shot with another club if a trade involving him is made later on.
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Abreu should be batting 7th or 8th in that lineup
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texasaggie2015 said:

And this outspokenness is refreshing to say the least
Outspokenness does nothing for me. I believe it hurts more than it helps.

If a GM is being outspoken about internal issues, it's either to gain leverage or they're stupid. Dana isn't doing it for some service to the fans, he's doing to place pressure on Dusty. I don't like internal issues becoming public.

I don't care the Astros give vague injury updates. Why should the opponent know the extent of the Astros' injuries before necessary?

I want the organization to be run well with a good culture, keep internal matters in-house, don't disclose the extent of injuries until required, and be assassins with trades/signings.
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Im fine with Pena getting a day off. I'm fine with Bregman getting a day off.

But do they both have to get one on the same day??
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