***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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We suck right now. Yes, we'll be better later but we absolutely suck right now.
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Queue up the "Oh no we suck again" meme
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No happy flight today
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Astros fall to 16-15

probably not going to see any more tweets about how they're still on pace with last year
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Will be good to get McCormick and Brantley back during or after this trip.
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Started to get our act together on the trecheous six road games, went 5-1

Followed up immediately by 2-4 at home

Ugh
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This team is grossly underperforming. It's time to draw some blood.

Start with the manager. Fire Dusty before they get on the airplane and make Espada the interim manager. Next to go should be Snitker.
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Getting mike and jose and chas back are big. Forces dusty to sit the hensleys and meyers of the team. Diaz is still screwed though
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mwm said:

This team is grossly underperforming. It's time to draw some blood.

Start with the manager. Fire Dusty before they get on the airplane and make Espada the interim manager. Next to go should be Snitker supposed hitting coach, Alex Cintron.
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We will be okay, but it does suck for now
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Missing 2 of the rotation and the bats are so anemic that I'm starting to expect us to get no-hit at some point.

It's no Bueno. But hey we get to watch Diaz play every 5 days so there's that
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Ags #1 said:

Getting mike and jose and chas back are big. Forces dusty to sit the hensleys and meyers of the team. Diaz is still screwed though


Dusty wasn't sitting Meyers when Chas was healthy though
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Pathetic performance. But we need to remember, we are World Champs, so we will be getting everyone's best shot.

We are missing Altuve, Brantley and Chas. Yordan had missed some time. We are down Luis, Urquidy and LMJ. We need to stay close and get healthy.

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speaking of Jake...

TK said on the broadcast that he has started 17 straight games in centerfield

but despite playing every day for almost 3 weeks...OPS at .665

doesn't hit for power...doesn't walk much
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Bregman's 2020-2023 numbers so far don't scream big money extension. We should be able to re-sign him at a reasonable rate.
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Remember the goal was always to hover around .500 until we got to full strength.

Frustrating to watch but we're alright
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tjack16 said:

Bregman's 2020-2023 numbers so far don't scream big money extension. We should be able to re-sign him at a reasonable rate.


Why would you want to extend him if you don't think he's worth of big money?
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Ag_07 said:

Remember the goal was always to hover around .500 until we got to full strength.

Frustrating to watch but we're alright


Yes, but now with Garcia and Urquidy getting hurt… "full strength" might be further away than we think.
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Farmer1906 said:

tjack16 said:

Bregman's 2020-2023 numbers so far don't scream big money extension. We should be able to re-sign him at a reasonable rate.


Why would you want to extend him if you don't think he's worth of big money?


I'd extend him. I love Bregman but I'm just saying we won't have to worry about the massive deal potential that some were talking about. I'd give him the 5 year 100 MM type of extension. Some were mentioning a $200 MM plus type of extension for him in free agency. I think we could get him for closer to $100 MM
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Brantley can't get back soon enough so he can have a come to Jesus meeting with the team like he did in the WS.
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W said:

doesn't hit for power...doesn't walk much

You could be talking about any single player in this lineup with just this statement.
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Pitching will be fine either way

Offense is the issue
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For all the fun Dubon has been, the guy literally has almost three times as many GIDPs (8) as walks (3) in a month of play. That is absolutely mental.
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Usually a team looks forward to a long homestand. I think the players (and the fans for that matter) are looking forward to a road trip here.
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Beau Holder said:

For all the fun Dubon has been, the guy literally has almost three times as many GIDPs (8) as walks (3) in a month of play. That is absolutely mental.


Way to find the negative with a negative player hitting over .300 and having an out of body season so far. He's been an animal at the plate and there is no reason to **** on what he's done so far
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Is that three losses in a row when our Ace pitches?
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aggie813 said:

Brantley can't get back soon enough so he can have a come to Jesus meeting with the team like he did in the WS.


The meltdown here is going to be epic when Uncle Mike shows regression after the long injury layoff
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bearkatag15 said:

Beau Holder said:

For all the fun Dubon has been, the guy literally has almost three times as many GIDPs (8) as walks (3) in a month of play. That is absolutely mental.


Way to find the negative with a negative player hitting over .300 and having an out of body season so far. He's been an animal at the plate and there is no reason to **** on what he's done so far

He totally is having an out of body season so far. And I said he's been fun. That said, those numbers aren't made up and they merit as much mention as anything else heading into an off day off a terrible series loss. I figure enough has been said about how Abreu hits with the force of a pool noodle, hardly anyone is walking, and this team has yet to win a series at home. (Edit: One, forgot about the Jays.)

The GIDP number proobably wouldn't have even been a topic raised elsewhere on this thread if he hadn't had the back-breaking one before the Bregman home run.
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Dubon is playing very similarly to how he did in 19 and 20 with the Giants. The avg wasn't as good but he had more pop and a little more ability to draw walks. He just struggled mightily in 2022 after the trade so our expectations were very low.

OPS+
2019 - 94 (98 with Giants)
2020 - 100
2023 - 100 (will drop slightly after today)

Dubon isn't above criticism because of low expectations.
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I don't have the stats, but my impression is that Dubon is a disaster when pulling the ball.
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Beau Holder said:

W said:

doesn't hit for power...doesn't walk much

You could be talking about any single player in this lineup with just this statement.
yes, and this is the problem.

too many guys in the lineup that don't excel in either category
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the hovering at .500 strategy should be okay with regard to the AL West

would like to avoid the wildcard round though
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We could be 10 games under or 10 games over when we get back Altuve, Brantley, & McCullers. The bye is still on the table either way.
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I heard Dana's spot on the radio this morning and he put into pretty good perspective.

Hover around .500 say 2 games over until Altuve and Brantley get back then all you gotta do is rip off a 5 game streak and you're now 7 games over. Hover there then rip off another 4-5 game streak then you're double digits over and rolling.

None of that is stretch for this team. It doesn't take long to get going.
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I know he's not the manager or in the field but he is the freakin GM and based on him apparently having zero influence on Dusty or on who should be catching, DHing, and sitting, I'm not impressed with Dana so far. I think we could all find at least 8-10 games where Dusty put a line up out there that didn't give us the best chance to win. 1/5th of the season is done and we are barely above 500.
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