That was awesome. I don't know if Dibble valued life after that, hopefully he did, he could have killed someone throwing at their heads like he did. I remember reading during the fight Dibble left his glove on the field and one of the Astros picked it up and kept it. On the flight home the team had fun ripping it to shreds.Quote:
But he's most famous, and absolutely beloved in my heart, because he got thrown at by Rob Dibble during an Astros-Reds game and threw his batting helmet at him, despite Dibble probably outweighing him by 80 pounds; resulting in a brawl that had Astro coach Ed Ott get Dibble in a chokehold and give the most legendary quote in Astros' history "I watched him turn red. I watched him turn purple. I watched him turn blue. Then I let him up. Maybe now he'll value life . . . I could have given him another 45 seconds and watched him turn black, but I let him go."
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If Dirden does make the opening day roster, I agree that Madris is probably the odd man out. I don't really see where he fits into the plan at this point.agproducer said:
If Dirden makes the team, seriously, who does get DFA'd to get him on the 40-man?
I'd cut bait with Madris.
Also, what do the Astros see in Bielak? He's like a AAAA guy -- decent at Triple-A with no results in the bigs.
It's not entirely fair to him. From what I understand, we brought him in thinking we could fix something in his swing. He's done alright this spring. Not good but not stinky enough to warrant being DFA'd based solely on performance. It's just that OF is getting a little crowded in our org.
In terms of position players, it's either him or Bannon. IMO Bannon will be a nice AAA infield stash as insurance for a couple INF positions we're thin at. He's also hit pretty well this spring.
Agree with the poster that said keep Bielak. At least for another year. The two guys on the current pitching staff that I think are probably most expendable are Paredes and Mushinski. But I think either would be tradable as opposed to just DFA.
Also, do we have any candidates for a 60 man IL stint? Maybe Blake Taylor?
I wasn't suggesting to DFA Bielak. I just am curious as to why the organization holds on to him. He has a 5.15 ERA in the majors. Maybe he is just organizational depth.
I think that 40-man spot boils down to Madris and Bannon.
Ideally, Brown would pull off a trade to further restore lower organizational depth.
I think that 40-man spot boils down to Madris and Bannon.
Ideally, Brown would pull off a trade to further restore lower organizational depth.
Bielak is a innings eater.
No he's not a stud who we expect to compete for CY votes but he's serviceable as a spot starter if an injury pops up or a long reliever if a starter gets in trouble.
No he's not a stud who we expect to compete for CY votes but he's serviceable as a spot starter if an injury pops up or a long reliever if a starter gets in trouble.
Agreed. Wasn't trying to "disagree" with you. I think organizational depth with big league experience is a good way to classify him.agproducer said:
I wasn't suggesting to DFA Bielak. I just am curious as to why the organization holds on to him. He has a 5.15 ERA in the majors. Maybe he is just organizational depth.
I think that 40-man spot boils down to Madris and Bannon.
Ideally, Brown would pull off a trade to further restore lower organizational depth.
Right now, it seems like Blanco and Whitley will be first guys up to start games with the big club in the event starts come open. It'd be nice to get both of them a few starts this year and see what we've got.
If Blanco and Whitley both look like they can hold their own in the show and we still have our six main starters heading into next year, Bielak falls to 9th in the pecking order and should be traded. IMO he could be a cheap back-of-rotation option for a low tier team and we could get an ok prospect for him.
Pretty great article which I got the exact quote from about Ed Ott as the equivalent of a hockey enforcer during his playing days as well.
https://throughthefencebaseball.com/baseballs-enforcer-california-angels-ed-ott/
https://throughthefencebaseball.com/baseballs-enforcer-california-angels-ed-ott/
Life is better with a beagle
Not Astros related, but this is pretty cool.
Mitch Keller finding out he’s the Opening Day starter for the Pirates is so cool 🥹 pic.twitter.com/RKKZrkroyf
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) March 15, 2023
Cool moment. Also speaks of the situation in PIttsburgh that their opening day starter is 10-23 the last two years.agproducer said:
Not Astros related, but this is pretty cool.Mitch Keller finding out he’s the Opening Day starter for the Pirates is so cool 🥹 pic.twitter.com/RKKZrkroyf
— Talkin’ Baseball (@TalkinBaseball_) March 15, 2023
Life is better with a beagle
Ed Ott = legend.
Ott was also an expert at snagging foul balls with the gate in front of the dugout. The same gate Bill Doran would abuse when he was in a slump.
Ott was also an expert at snagging foul balls with the gate in front of the dugout. The same gate Bill Doran would abuse when he was in a slump.
Ordering a custom last name jersey and need some suggestions… What y'all got? TOFTA? INCHPECKER with the number 8 is what the guys at the office voted for. I'm leading towards Wematanye (little King of the Hill reference)
GLF
What's TOFTA?
This DR vs PR game is awesome.
Playoff atmosphere
Playoff atmosphere
Maldy legging out a bunt single was wild.
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
What's TOFTA?
Technically it's TOFA (*its out for Astros) as well as the companion (and my personal favorite) AOFA. Here's a sample:
OKCAg2002 said:
Maldy legging out a bunt single was wild.
Yep, and I don't want to hear anything during the season about him not being able to lay down a sac bunt!
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
Prosperdick said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
What's TOFTA?
Technically it's TOFA (*its out for Astros) as well as the companion (and my personal favorite) AOFA. Here's a sample:
Well aware of TOFA but being a wise azz about whatever TOFTA is
OK sorry, I just figured it was a bandwagon fan who is just now following the Astros...I guess I should know better, we are so universally hated nobody jumps in at this point. Oh yeah, and I LOVE it!!!!Lonestar_Ag09 said:Prosperdick said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
What's TOFTA?
Technically it's TOFA (*its out for Astros) as well as the companion (and my personal favorite) AOFA. Here's a sample:
Well aware of TOFA but being a wise azz about whatever TOFTA is
Teddy Perkins said:Doesn't look like we'll see a la carte Astros streaming anytime soon, especially where "The Houston teams ... have distribution contracts for their games through 2032 with Comcast, AT&T and DirecTV."Quote:
"Streaming economics are negative margin economics, which is a fancy way of saying that for every dollar you spend, you lose a buck 50," said Patrick Crakes, a former executive with Fox Sports. "And it keeps getting worse, not better.
"The Astros, for example, can't go direct to consumer (streaming) because they won't ever make as much money as they're making from the current system. Even if you went through bankruptcy and the judge said to the MLB teams, you've got to take a 20 percent cut and stay in the system, or you can leave, they wouldn't leave because they can't make any money on (streaming) and they need the rights fees or they can't make payroll."
Also, my brother in law is a bankruptcy attorney and represented the MLB as an interested third-party, during the bankruptcy dispute between the Astros and Comcast back in 2013. During one of the hearings, he and Jim Crane watched the World Series on his laptop and Crane was telling him how great the Astros were going to be after the rebuild and how special things were happening with the organization.
I'd like to see the economics of streaming if MLB gets rid of the blackout rules. It makes no sense for someone in Houston, the largest market for the Astros, to pay for streaming because all the games will be blacked out. With the current blackout rules, you won't be able to stream an in market game, without a cable subscription, which basically makes streaming pointless. MLB need to fix it's archaic blackout rules.
They make more money off cable because they get money from users who don't even watch baseball.
If you buy the single team package from MLB.tv, it's $130 for a year. Less than a dollar a game. Some of that goes to the league but let's say half goes to the teams. If that's the going rate from cable and you get that even for the people who don't watch, why wouldn't the teams want to keep that?
Frok said:
They make more money off cable because they get money from users who don't even watch baseball.
Not a winning proposition for a new market entrant though. That well is drying up rather quickly, so much so that even the one super big giant (ESPN) is badly hemorrhaging.
Maybe so. I think the steaming services will just repackage the same thing in an app instead of a channel. A "regional sports app".
Think of how much the Rockets benefit being packaged with the Astros right now.
Think of how much the Rockets benefit being packaged with the Astros right now.
Edwin Diaz down and about to carted off the field with a celebration injury.
Ks the side to win the game then has the be helped off with a right knee injury.
Wow...Players crying and hunched over. Doesn't look good.
Ks the side to win the game then has the be helped off with a right knee injury.
Wow...Players crying and hunched over. Doesn't look good.
Looked like his right ankle was really messed up. What a gut punch.
I think it was a knee. He did not want it bent at all.
I went to journalism school so I could provide you with this exclusive exposé: The Yankees charge their players for internet on the team plane.
— Stephanie Apstein (@stephapstein) March 15, 2023
“It’s your fault,” they tell one another. “Your contract is too big, so they can’t pay for the Wi-Fi.”https://t.co/m0Gkio541d
That's literally the worst thing that could happen to this tournament. I love the WBC and all of the energy, but you can't have $100mm players getting hurt like that. Ugh. I feel terrible for Diaz, PR, and the Mets.
OKCAg2002 said:
That's literally the worst thing that could happen to this tournament. I love the WBC and all of the energy, but you can't have $100mm players getting hurt like that. Ugh. I feel terrible for Diaz, PR, and the Mets.
Feel bad for him. But **** new york
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
MAGA
MAGA
OKCAg2002 said:
That's literally the worst thing that could happen to this tournament. I love the WBC and all of the energy, but you can't have $100mm players getting hurt like that. Ugh. I feel terrible for Diaz, PR, and the Mets.
Yep...The ramifications of what just happens will be far reaching.
And to think it happened jumping up and down celebrating.
I tried to find it but no luck. Did Peña get any playing time in the WBC?. Or just have a mini vacation?
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
MAROON said:
I tried to find it but no luck. Did Peña get any playing time in the WBC?. Or just have a mini vacation?
He & Adames split time.
Project Gemini said:I went to journalism school so I could provide you with this exclusive exposé: The Yankees charge their players for internet on the team plane.
— Stephanie Apstein (@stephapstein) March 15, 2023
“It’s your fault,” they tell one another. “Your contract is too big, so they can’t pay for the Wi-Fi.”https://t.co/m0Gkio541d
I see that another Mike Trout led team is about to go down the toilet.