G-L-F!!!

The Porkchop Express said:

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Just a few pals hanging around not talking steroids.

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If Bagwell had juiced, and that kept his right shoulder strong so he could have kept playing as long as he wanted, how many home runs would he have ended up with? At least 550 maybe?

EastCoastAgNc said:

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Luis Garcia built his pitch count to 50 today during his final appearance before the World Baseball Classic. He allowed four hits and one run to the Nationals across three innings.

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) March 5, 2023

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LuACE breakout is starting in the WBC. He's gunna go shove against on of the elite teams.

Farmer1906 said:

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McInnis said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Just a few pals hanging around not talking steroids.

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If Bagwell had juiced, and that kept his right shoulder strong so he could have kept playing as long as he wanted, how many home runs would he have ended up with? At least 550 maybe?

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I think you have that backwards. His body broke down because he juiced.

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I'm not sure that the order. I think the juice (specifically HGH) was covering for and masking the arthritic shoulder and it was never correctly dealt with. And when he stopped using that the issues manifested fast and furious.

Like Mordo says at the end of Dr Strange, "The bill comes due. The bill always comes due."

Petitte claimed that HGH was the real thing everyone was using. It was keeping everyone uber healthy. Pitchers on 4 days rest and hitters playing every day, all without the day to day nagging injuries.

Either way, whatever order and whatever substance; McInnis said if he used it

You'll never convince me he and Biggio didn't. Caveat is, I don't give a damn. They all did it so it wasn't even really an unfair advantage.

Farmer1906 said:

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McInnis said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Just a few pals hanging around not talking steroids.

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If Bagwell had juiced, and that kept his right shoulder strong so he could have kept playing as long as he wanted, how many home runs would he have ended up with? At least 550 maybe?

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I think you have that backwards. His body broke down because he juiced.

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Bagwell? I've never heard that before and it must not be common knowledge or he wouldn't be in the HOF.

Farmer1906 said:

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McInnis said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Just a few pals hanging around not talking steroids.

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If Bagwell had juiced, and that kept his right shoulder strong so he could have kept playing as long as he wanted, how many home runs would he have ended up with? At least 550 maybe?

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I think you have that backwards. His body broke down because he juiced.

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I hate bad mouthing any of our players who contributed so much, but the last few years of Bagwell's career definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. In as stretch from 94-99, he was as great as any 1B who has ever lived, with '95 being the only "off year" in there. He was walking more than he struck out, stealing bases, just a manager's dream.

2000 was his best power year - he led the league with 152 runs scored, hit 47 HR, drove in 13 and hit .310, but there were trends that moved the stick the other way that told you "this guy is getting older and doesn't care about altering his game." In that giant year of 2000 he walked 42 fewer times, his steals went from 30 to 9 and his OBP dropped 30 points.

He still had three more 30 HR years and drove in 130 runs in 2001, but the rest of the numbers just kept sliding. He never drew more walks than strikeouts again, his averaged dropped under .300, never to return, from 2000-2003 his OPS went from 1.039 to .966 to .919 to .897.

And watching at home you kept seeing him get into that damn deep crouch and get around on the ball less and less.

Meanwhile Bidge made the change to his game when he lost his greatest weapon, his speed. He figured out how to use the Crawford Boxes, kept adding armor to his outfit to get hit by pitches without dying, and piled on run totals of 102, 100, and 94 in his age 37-39 seasons He had hit a career-high 22 homers twice in the 90s, then hit 24 in 2004, 2006 in 2005 and 21 in 2006 when he was 40. And he figured it out in the post-season at the end. Hit .400 vs the Braces in the 2004 NLDS, .316 vs them in the 2005 NLDS, and .333 against the Cardinals in the 2005 NLCS.

Love all the stuff Baggy did as an Astro, but his stubborness to not adjust really was frustrating to watch.

I'm not trying to disrespect Bagwell. But I'm not trying to be ignore his size and what was going on in the game at that time. He's very likely the greatest hitter in Astros history (Yordan may have something to say about that). I love the player. Glad he made the HOF. Annoyed it took so long. Glad he's apart of the team still. Stay the **** away from making decisions tho.

https://www.mlb.com/news/chas-mccormick-jake-meyers-astros-center-field-battle?partnerID=web_article-share


Chas is our CFer until someone plays so well we can't keep them on the bench. Tags, Dusty, and Jake can kiss my ass.

At this rate we may have to postpone opening day.

This game is inducing way too much stress for an early March game.

Hell we might get Aggies after dark tonight

Farmer1906 said:

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Chas is our CFer until someone plays so well we can't keep them on the bench. Tags, Dusty, and Jake can kiss my ass.

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Give me Dirden as the 4th OF as an extra lefty bat off the bench

Farmer1906 said:

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This game is inducing way too much stress for an early March game.

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I'm treating it as just grateful we tied it. Obviously want to win, but not getting stressed

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Farmer1906 said:

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Chas is our CFer until someone plays so well we can't keep them on the bench. Tags, Dusty, and Jake can kiss my ass.

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Give me Dirden as the 4th OF as an extra lefty bat off the bench

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Fat ass lard butt Dirden?

Farmer1906 said:

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bearkatag15 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Chas is our CFer until someone plays so well we can't keep them on the bench. Tags, Dusty, and Jake can kiss my ass.

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Give me Dirden as the 4th OF as an extra lefty bat off the bench

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Svelte 6-3 209lb body of a greek god Dirden?

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FIFY

Remember when Dylan Rock was basically a college version of Yordan? I wish we had him
Right about now.

No hit since the 5th inning... this is brutal

bearkatag15 said:

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No hit since the 5th inning... this is brutal

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Fly in Pena and put a mustache on him. Time to end this marathon.

Ryan Pressly, José Urquidy & Kyle Tucker are leaving for Phoenix today. Héctor Neris, Rafael Montero, Bryan Abreu, Cristian Javier and Luis Garcia are done in Grapefruit League play. Jose Altuve, Jeremy Peña & Martín Maldonado will play today then leave - https://t.co/sFRE2NPigS

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) March 6, 2023

Gonna be AAA spring training for a few weeks

Astros-Cardinals pic.twitter.com/UBULfwmsTX

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) March 6, 2023

Cardinals have a broadcast of this one today

Arw we saying that if a player bulks up a lot from the start of his career to the finish it must be proof he used steroids?

Is that "bulking" or simple filling out? Bagwell and 50% looked like they could be on stage at Mr Olympia.

Astros coach Omar Lopez, who’s managing Venezuela in the WBC, said Phillies LHP Ranger Suárez will start Wednesday’s exhibition game against the Astros in West Palm Beach.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) March 6, 2023

In the practical sense, I agree. It does not help the individual team and introduces extra injury risk.

But I have a hard time believing any diehard baseball fan isn't going to be into the WBC at least some. Seeing guys play for their country is fantastic. Creating these super teams is incredible.

Baseball in the Olympics has pretty much gone away. They brought it back for Tokoyo, but here is the roster USA used.

United States

• Shane Baz
• Anthony Carter
• Brandon Dickson
• Anthony Gose
• Edwin Jackson
• Scott Kazmir
• Nick Martinez
• Scott McGough
• David Robertson
• Joe Ryan
• Ryder Ryan
• Simeon Woods Richardson
• Tim Federowicz
• Mark Kolozsvary
• Nick Allen
• Eddy Alvarez
• Triston Casas
• Todd Frazier
• Jamie Westbrook
• Tyler Austin
• Eric Filia
• Patrick Kivlehan
• Jack Lpez
• Bubba Starling