***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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Not exactly. Go back and look at the quote from him.
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Social media team trolling hard
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bearkatag15 said:




Can we really still call him a prospect?
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Until he retires, gets cut or clears rookie status in the show then that is all you can call him
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Geography seems likely to play a role in realignment
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bearkatag15 said:



Geography seems likely to play a role in realignment
Give me a division with Detroit, Minnesota and Arlington
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Seems high to me.
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redline248 said:

bearkatag15 said:



Geography seems likely to play a role in realignment
Give me a division with Detroit, Minnesota and Arlington


Arlington, KC and expansion Nashville. We would put banners up for 10 straight years and run out of space.
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Good discussion here on the impact of bigger bases
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So that video explained something I hadn't understood about the two pickoff try limit. The pitcher can try a third time but if he doesn't get the runner then it's like a balk. I was thinking after the second try it would practically be like a free base, but not exactly. This should mostly put an end to pitchers stalling while they figure out what they want to do. I'm thinking this won't be a bad thing.
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https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTEzMzY1Nzg5Mjg3OTA4?story_media_id=2726723953907904963&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Astros Center on IG is doing an All Time top 100 Astros. Hopefully that link works
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So Yordan for sure in the top 20. He should be top 10. Maybe top 5-6. And Pressly?
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I bet Pressly is left off
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Diaz was 51st. Agree. No Pressly.
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The argument for Pressly is more than convincing but relievers are at a massive disadvantage
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McInnis said:

So that video explained something I hadn't understood about the two pickoff try limit. The pitcher can try a third time but if he doesn't get the runner then it's like a balk. I was thinking after the second try it would practically be like a free base, but not exactly. This should mostly put an end to pitchers stalling while they figure out what they want to do. I'm thinking this won't be a bad thing.
Curious how they define getting him out. If pitcher throws to first and runner takes off and they throw him out first to second is that counted as an out? Or a balk because they didn't get him going back to first?
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Colorado makes sense over KC. That allows KC to stay with their existing historical rivalries. You'd need another west coast team to replace Colorado though (SLC?).
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question:

The bases are bigger, but does that mean the distance between Homeplate and 1st is now shorter? If so that is a way bigger deal than stealing bases
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Bag said:

question:

The bases are bigger, but does that mean the distance between Homeplate and 1st is now shorter? If so that is a way bigger deal than stealing bases
Yes, but about 3 inches. Same with 3rd to home. 1dt to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd is about 4.5 inches closer. But that almost puts the fielders closer together on their throws to those bases.
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Farmer1906 said:

Bag said:

question:

The bases are bigger, but does that mean the distance between Homeplate and 1st is now shorter? If so that is a way bigger deal than stealing bases
Yes, but about 3 inches. Same with 3rd to home. 1dt to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd is about 4.5 inches closer. But that almost puts the fielders closer together on their throws to those bases.
seems like a solution in search of a problem. This + outlawing the shift will mean a pretty healthy jump in runs, not sure I am a fan tbh
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bearkatag15 said:



Geography seems likely to play a role in realignment
If expansion occurs some realignment will be necessary, however does anyone really want Manfred to be the commissioner in charge when it happens?
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jkag89 said:

bearkatag15 said:



Geography seems likely to play a role in realignment
If expansion occurs some realignment will be necessary, however does anyone really want Manfred to be the commissioner in charge when it happens?
Does anyone really want him to be commissioner right now?
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MaxPower said:

McInnis said:

So that video explained something I hadn't understood about the two pickoff try limit. The pitcher can try a third time but if he doesn't get the runner then it's like a balk. I was thinking after the second try it would practically be like a free base, but not exactly. This should mostly put an end to pitchers stalling while they figure out what they want to do. I'm thinking this won't be a bad thing.
Curious how they define getting him out. If pitcher throws to first and runner takes off and they throw him out first to second is that counted as an out? Or a balk because they didn't get him going back to first?
Technically, when a runner goes toward 2nd on a throw over it is scored as picked off. I would assume that means the pitcher is safe from a balk, but who knows?

In reality I bet we see very, very few 3rd attempts. Teams won't risk giving up that base.
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Curious how they define getting him out. If pitcher throws to first and runner takes off and they throw him out first to second is that counted as an out?
this would be an out.


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Here is a good article on what the rules did for the minor leagues.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/what-the-minor-league-data-says-about-new-mlb-rules-changes/

  • Pitch clocked worked, but only with the limited pick offs
  • Shift ban had a much less impact than most expect
  • The combo of pick-off rules and larger bases greatly increased stolen bases
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Farmer1906 said:



Didn't Framber's agent just say this wasn't true?
Difference between "discussing" and throwing an actual # out there as was reported on twitter.

I'm sure Dana's version of "discussing" is putting a feeler out to the agents saying we'd love to get a deal done. what about yall?
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The Porkchop Express said:

Just bought my tix for Astros @ Braves in late April. First time seeing the good guys on the road in 16 friggin years.
I'm thinking I will be at that series as well
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AustinCountyAg said:

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Didn't Framber's agent just say this wasn't true?
Difference between "discussing" and throwing an actual # out there as was reported on twitter.

I'm sure Dana's version of "discussing" is putting a feeler out to the agents saying we'd love to get a deal done. what about yall?
Maybe, but I think Framber's agent was pretty clear.


Quote:

"I haven't even had a conversation with (general manager Dana Brown) with respect to Framber Valdez. There are no negotiations. Whatever conversations that do exist will not be handled in the press."
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Farmer1906 said:

AustinCountyAg said:

Farmer1906 said:



Didn't Framber's agent just say this wasn't true?
Difference between "discussing" and throwing an actual # out there as was reported on twitter.

I'm sure Dana's version of "discussing" is putting a feeler out to the agents saying we'd love to get a deal done. what about yall?
Maybe, but I think Framber's agent was pretty clear.


Quote:

"I haven't even had a conversation with (general manager Dana Brown) with respect to Framber Valdez. There are no negotiations. Whatever conversations that do exist will not be handled in the press."

that quote is from before Dana made his quote yesterday
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AustinCountyAg said:

Farmer1906 said:

AustinCountyAg said:

Farmer1906 said:



Didn't Framber's agent just say this wasn't true?
Difference between "discussing" and throwing an actual # out there as was reported on twitter.

I'm sure Dana's version of "discussing" is putting a feeler out to the agents saying we'd love to get a deal done. what about yall?
Maybe, but I think Framber's agent was pretty clear.


Quote:

"I haven't even had a conversation with (general manager Dana Brown) with respect to Framber Valdez. There are no negotiations. Whatever conversations that do exist will not be handled in the press."

that quote is from before Dana made his quote yesterday
True, there is a small window of time between them.
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Harry Dunne said:

I watched him pitch for Corpus in 2017 and at he looked so good the time I thought he'd probably be on the 2018 playoff roster.

I hope he stays healthy and puts it all together this year. Just pitching a few innings in the majors would have to be considered a victory at this point.
Agreed. It's been a long five years.

Feel like he's as big of a wild card prospect as there is in baseball. If the baseball gods offered me solid, back-of-rotation depth from him for the next few years, I'd take it.
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redline248 said:

MaxPower said:

McInnis said:

So that video explained something I hadn't understood about the two pickoff try limit. The pitcher can try a third time but if he doesn't get the runner then it's like a balk. I was thinking after the second try it would practically be like a free base, but not exactly. This should mostly put an end to pitchers stalling while they figure out what they want to do. I'm thinking this won't be a bad thing.
Curious how they define getting him out. If pitcher throws to first and runner takes off and they throw him out first to second is that counted as an out? Or a balk because they didn't get him going back to first?
Technically, when a runner goes toward 2nd on a throw over it is scored as picked off. I would assume that means the pitcher is safe from a balk, but who knows?

In reality I bet we see very, very few 3rd attempts. Teams won't risk giving up that base.
I think that would have to be the case or else after the second attempt, if the pitcher throws to first then the runner could automatically head to second base. But it's baseball so who knows?
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