I sure hope that was ball 4 and the ump was pointing to first base.EastCoastAgNc said:bearkatag15 said:Sources: All AAA parks to have robot umps in '23 https://t.co/HoATtFBYkx
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Along those lines...Angel Hernandez getting his off-season work in. #hardworkpaysoff pic.twitter.com/emdBbSSvA0
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bearkatag15 said:Call me biased, but I still think this game-ending double play against the Cardinals in the G4 of the 2005 NLCS remains one of the best I’ve ever watched.
— Astros Stats (@astro_numbers) January 12, 2023
That throw by Adam Everett, in particular, was *chef’s kiss*. pic.twitter.com/utUC8W5RHM
I feel like I saw as good or better double plays during this dynasty multiple times
Good times,, first playoff game I ever went to
https://ts.la/eric59704
I was there. Sat about as far away from home plate as you could get.
07ag said:bearkatag15 said:Call me biased, but I still think this game-ending double play against the Cardinals in the G4 of the 2005 NLCS remains one of the best I’ve ever watched.
— Astros Stats (@astro_numbers) January 12, 2023
That throw by Adam Everett, in particular, was *chef’s kiss*. pic.twitter.com/utUC8W5RHM
I feel like I saw as good or better double plays during this dynasty multiple times
Good times,, first playoff game I ever went to
Thank goodness I know longer have to look at that season as the peak or our success....
Today in Astros history, we traded for Gerrit Cole.
2018 - Astros trade Joe Musgrove, Colin Moran, Michael Feliz and a minor leaguer to Pittsburgh for pitcher Gerrit Cole. He is billed as the "third ace" to team with Justin Verlander and Dallas Keuchel in hopes of defending their Worlds Championship.
You might think that sounds like the worst trade in Pirates history, considering:
Musgrove went 18-26 with a 4.23 ERA in three seasons for the Pirates and has since gone 21-16 with a 3.06 ERA for the Padres.
Colin Moran hit .269 for the Pirates then left after 3 years in free agency.
MIcahel Feliz went 5-6 with an ERA of 5.00 in 115 games and got waived.
But what if I told you that not only was that not the worst trade in Pirates history, it wasn't even the worst trade they made in 2018?
Fast-forward to the trade deadline of 2018 when the Pirates decided they had to have a fella named Chris Archer. He was an innings-eater for Tampa at the time and had dazzled the world by leading the American League in losses in 2016 with 19.
The Pirates knew he was their guy to win the title with, so they got him from Tampa for the low-low cost of:
Minor-league pitcher Shane Baz, who has had 2 cups of coffee as a starter for the Rays in 2021-2022.
Rookie outfielder Austin Meadows, who hit 33 HR with a .922 ERA in 2019 and then hit 27 HR with 106 RBI n 2021.
And young pitcher Tyler Glasnow, who despite his Tommy John surgery, is a pretty wicked arm who was lights out in the 2020 playoffs for them.
Archer pitched 2 years with the Pirates, going 6-12 with a 4.92 ERA, got released, and signed with the Rays again.
2018 - Astros trade Joe Musgrove, Colin Moran, Michael Feliz and a minor leaguer to Pittsburgh for pitcher Gerrit Cole. He is billed as the "third ace" to team with Justin Verlander and Dallas Keuchel in hopes of defending their Worlds Championship.
You might think that sounds like the worst trade in Pirates history, considering:
Musgrove went 18-26 with a 4.23 ERA in three seasons for the Pirates and has since gone 21-16 with a 3.06 ERA for the Padres.
Colin Moran hit .269 for the Pirates then left after 3 years in free agency.
MIcahel Feliz went 5-6 with an ERA of 5.00 in 115 games and got waived.
But what if I told you that not only was that not the worst trade in Pirates history, it wasn't even the worst trade they made in 2018?
Fast-forward to the trade deadline of 2018 when the Pirates decided they had to have a fella named Chris Archer. He was an innings-eater for Tampa at the time and had dazzled the world by leading the American League in losses in 2016 with 19.
The Pirates knew he was their guy to win the title with, so they got him from Tampa for the low-low cost of:
Minor-league pitcher Shane Baz, who has had 2 cups of coffee as a starter for the Rays in 2021-2022.
Rookie outfielder Austin Meadows, who hit 33 HR with a .922 ERA in 2019 and then hit 27 HR with 106 RBI n 2021.
And young pitcher Tyler Glasnow, who despite his Tommy John surgery, is a pretty wicked arm who was lights out in the 2020 playoffs for them.
Archer pitched 2 years with the Pirates, going 6-12 with a 4.92 ERA, got released, and signed with the Rays again.
Everett should have had 2 or 3 GG. This sounds funny to say, but the way it went back then he would have won them if he was a better hitter.Pahdz said:
I feel that's just how good Everett was at SS. He made the difficult look mundane. I believe Oswalt made a comment about how there were so many grounders he gave up he was sure were hits only to turn around to see Adam scooping it up.
I've said it before on this board, but it's absolutely amazing that Adam Everett and Jack Wilson of PIT didn't win any GGs between them. Two criminally underrated SS
What's weird is he hit .273 in 2004 and then just dropped off. The Astros must have thought they had Dickie Thon 2.0 at that point. 8 HR and 13 SB.Harry Dunne said:Everett should have had 2 or 3 GG. This sounds funny to say, but the way it went back then he would have won them if he was a better hitter.Pahdz said:
I feel that's just how good Everett was at SS. He made the difficult look mundane. I believe Oswalt made a comment about how there were so many grounders he gave up he was sure were hits only to turn around to see Adam scooping it up.
Then .248, .239, .232.
Like the first time we had AUsmus he had two seasons in the .260s. By the end of his career him hitting .260 was like a regular playing hitting .667 for a season.
He had zero power and didn't draw walks. If we ever get a designated fielder, he'd be the prototype.
Yes. IIRC Black Jack & Everett both got screwed by lazy voters giving it to an aging Omar Vizquel who was still pretty good but not anywhere near them in their prime.
And that right there speaks volumes of the pitching development you receive in Pittsburgh compared to Tampa. Archer clearly saw it and couldn't wait to get back.Quote:
Archer pitched 2 years with the Pirates, going 6-12 with a 4.92 ERA, got released, and signed with the Rays again.
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
never forget when I went to a game in late august and they showed his stats on the jumbotron and his OPS was actually LOWER than his batting average.Harry Dunne said:
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
Thats a whole new level of ineptitude at the plate, makes maldy look like Mike Piazza
I can't even fathom how this is possible, but it's still earlyBag said:never forget when I went to a game in late august and they showed his stats on the jumbotron and his OPS was actually LOWER than his batting average.Harry Dunne said:
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
Thats a whole new level of ineptitude at the plate, makes maldy look like Mike Piazza
Just did a little research (AKA avoided work) and found out that:ScapeGOAT said:
I've said it before on this board, but it's absolutely amazing that Adam Everett and Jack Wilson of PIT didn't win any GGs between them. Two criminally underrated SS
Everett's 4.1 dWAR in 2006 is the highest single season for a player that never won a GG. It's the 2nd highest ever for a player that didn't win the GG that season.
The single season "record" is SS Mark Belanger 4.4 in 1968 when he hit .208...but he would go on to win 8 GG. IDK much about him but he got MVP votes in a couple of seasons where he had an OPS in the .500s, so he must have been slick. But I digress...
I'll have to defer to mathguy on this one but I don't think that's possible. You may have been drunk.Bag said:never forget when I went to a game in late august and they showed his stats on the jumbotron and his OPS was actually LOWER than his batting average.Harry Dunne said:
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
Thats a whole new level of ineptitude at the plate, makes maldy look like Mike Piazza
That play was so close as well. If you freeze it at 5 seconds, his foot is nearly on the bag and the ball looks like it reached the glove.bearkatag15 said:Call me biased, but I still think this game-ending double play against the Cardinals in the G4 of the 2005 NLCS remains one of the best I’ve ever watched.
— Astros Stats (@astro_numbers) January 12, 2023
That throw by Adam Everett, in particular, was *chef’s kiss*. pic.twitter.com/utUC8W5RHM
I feel like I saw as good or better double plays during this dynasty multiple times
Crazy to think about baseball before instant play reviews.
Belanger won a lot of Gold Gloves I would presume because the Orioles were in the playoffs and WS a lot, giving him much more of a national stage. You have to wonder how many hits and runs were robbed by the combo of Belanger and Brooks Robinson over the years.Harry Dunne said:Just did a little research (AKA avoided work) and found out that:ScapeGOAT said:
I've said it before on this board, but it's absolutely amazing that Adam Everett and Jack Wilson of PIT didn't win any GGs between them. Two criminally underrated SS
Everett's 4.1 dWAR in 2006 is the highest single season for a player that never won a GG. It's the 2nd highest ever for a player that didn't win the GG that season.
The single season "record" is SS Mark Belanger 4.4 in 1968 when he hit .208...but he would go on to win 8 GG. IDK much about him but he got MVP votes in a couple of seasons where he had an OPS in the .500s, so he must have been slick. But I digress...
Anyone get picked in the Savannah Bananas presale lotto for Sugarland?
7nine
haha, thinking back, i had this wrong, it was that his SLG was lower than his OBP looks like the year was 2008Harry Dunne said:I'll have to defer to mathguy on this one but I don't think that's possible. You may have been drunk.Bag said:never forget when I went to a game in late august and they showed his stats on the jumbotron and his OPS was actually LOWER than his batting average.Harry Dunne said:
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
Thats a whole new level of ineptitude at the plate, makes maldy look like Mike Piazza
Name the Aggie who replaced Belanger at short for the Orioles. Hint: his rookie card is very valuable
I didn't know Cal Ripken was an Aggie!
I would have thought this impossible but apparently not. OBA includes sac flies. Basically BA is H/AB and OBA includes HPB and SAC and the denominator is PA. In some rare and small sample events it can happen.Harry Dunne said:I'll have to defer to mathguy on this one but I don't think that's possible. You may have been drunk.Bag said:never forget when I went to a game in late august and they showed his stats on the jumbotron and his OPS was actually LOWER than his batting average.Harry Dunne said:
The crazy thing about Ausmus is he was absolutely jacked. I'm going to go ahead and unofficially give him the record for most jacked guy with 7K plate appearances never to hit double digit HR in a season.
Thats a whole new level of ineptitude at the plate, makes maldy look like Mike Piazza
1 hit, 2 SAC in 4 PA makes a BA of 1/2=.500 and an OBA of 1/4 =.250.
If all you do is hit singles and have no walks, HBP, SAC or get on by error your slash lines will all be the same. For a while last year Castro managed that feat. Vazquez did too as an Astros for a while. He had like 18 singles to start out.
Nice try, but Ripken played third at this time frameHarry Dunne said:
I didn't know Cal Ripken was an Aggie!
Source: the Astros and reliever Blake Taylor settled at an $830,000 salary, avoiding arbitration.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) January 13, 2023
Nope, I'm really glad we made it out there last year before they went solely Bananaball.
They did make some, but apparently in limited quantities.Mr.Bond said:
Man I wish they sold that patch. The ones made available were that material. Beautiful
https://www.theemblemsource.com/collections/mlb-patches-american-league-houston-astros/products/2022-world-series-collector-patch-official-on-field-edition
There are a few for sale on ebay, for ridiculous prices.
What do you mean?Bulldog73 said:
Nope, I'm really glad we made it out there last year before they went solely Bananaball.
i did not, looking for 1 or 2 if anyone won't be using their full allotment.Texaggie7nine said:
Anyone get picked in the Savannah Bananas presale lotto for Sugarland?
https://ts.la/eric59704
They previously competed in one of the college summer leagues, but sent an email they're stopping that league to just play their faster version.
They still did antics during the games, but played actual regular baseball rules most of the time.
They still did antics during the games, but played actual regular baseball rules most of the time.
man, slow day when you have to dissect Adam Everett numbers......maybe someone who's real bored can go look up some Carl Everett stats for us and can compare them to Derek Bell for us on who was most underrated.
Ag4life80 said:Nice try, but Ripken played third at this time frameHarry Dunne said:
I didn't know Cal Ripken was an Aggie!
That would be Bobby Bonner.
Why is his rc so valuable?
AustinCountyAg said:
man, slow day when you have to dissect Adam Everett numbers......maybe someone who's real bored can go look up some Carl Everett stats for us and can compare them to Derek Bell for us on who was most underrated.
Derek "Operation Shut Down"Bell versus "Jurassic Park" Carl Everett.
Belanger is an interesting case for all the WARriors out there.
career WAR of 41 despite a career OPS of .580
the .580 is not a typo
career WAR of 41 despite a career OPS of .580
the .580 is not a typo
Bell was part of an other-worldly '98 squadMathguy64 said:AustinCountyAg said:
man, slow day when you have to dissect Adam Everett numbers......maybe someone who's real bored can go look up some Carl Everett stats for us and can compare them to Derek Bell for us on who was most underrated.
Derek "Operation Shut Down"Bell versus "Jurassic Park" Carl Everett.
Bell: 111 R, 198 H, 41 2B, 22 HR, 108 RBI, .314/.364/.490
Bagwell: 124 R, 34 HR, 111 RBI, 19 SB, .304/.424/.557
Biggio (best year of his life): 123 R, 210 H, 51 2B, 20 HR, 88 RBI, 50 SB, .325/.403/.503
Alou: 104 R, 34 2B, 38 HR, 124 RBI, .312/.399/.582
Biggio 1 of 2 players with 50 doubles and 50 steals in the same season. Other one was Tris Speaker in 1912.
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