Harry Dunne said:

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Bag said:

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AggiEE said:

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Deluxe said:

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AggiEE said:

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Harry Dunne said:

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It really depends on what you define as "reliable" & what OF.

Conversely it would be "enormously stupid" to trade Tucker for a reliable pitcher.

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Any part of our current 6 man rotation with years of control or under contract should be un-tradeable

There's not a big enough improvement in CF to justify the sacrifice to our pitching depth

Of course I'm speaking strictly of the Astros situation

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Based on your logic, you wouldn't trade Urquidy for Reynolds straight up? We'd make that trade in a second. The Pirates would laugh at it.

The prohibiting factor in a Reynolds trade isn't that we'd have to give up a starter. It's that we'd have to give up ALOT more than that.

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Not even for Urquidy.

He's solid and reliable. If LMJ or someone else gets injured, we are going to need him

The trade Click put together for Contreras should have seen Click fired on the spot. Crane went easy on him

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No offerse but thank God you are not calling the shots.

999/1000 you trade Urquidy for Reynolds straight up

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My gut instinct was to post the same thing, but...

1. Chas is underrated. Give him 500 ABs and he's going to hit 25 HR and play good CF and be plenty good enough to bat 8th on what is already the best 1-7 in the league (and play good defense).

2. Urquidy is horse that can eat 30 starts and would be a good #3 SP on most playoff teams. SP get hurt and guys like Urquidy don't grow on trees. Even in 2017 we had to trot Fiers & Peacock out there 50 times.

3. McCullers is injury-prone. Javier I think is gonna be Pedro Martinez but might not be a 200 IP guy just yet. Brown is going to be on an innings count...I think we are going to lean hard on Urquidy.

Reynolds is good and I'd love to have him, but he's not Mike Trout under team control or even Kyle Tucker. He's been up and down. I don't think he improves us as much as I thought before I started looking at the numbers.

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Precisely my thoughts.

Farmer1906 said:

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Y'all need to go back and look at my Urquidy post from a few days ago. He won't make it break this season. He's a 4/5 type and will likely have a minimal impact in the postseason as we just saw. There are free agents available who can match his level of play without spending a ton of money.

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Which ones, and if so, why don't the pirates sign them?

I'll go check it out, but he did make 6 postseason starts the 2 seasons we didn't have JV.

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AggiEE said:

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The pirates aren't interested in short term starting pitching and they're not going to trade their star player for a package built around Urquidy.

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Short term defined as what?

They are looking to trade him for controllable pitching

I don't think there many Urquidy level pitchers on the market for short or cheap

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Adding a 4th starter over the next 3 years does nothing for the Pirates. They want top tier pitching prospects like Brown or better for the next 6 years or 6 years from when they'd get called up.

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That's fine, you claimed the Astros could easily trade for Reynolds and find a Urquidy replacement

Who?

Wacha, Kluber, Cueto, Miley, Greinke, Smyly could all fill in nicely as back end of the rotation inning eater for 2023.

But this only comes in play if we could actually get something of value for Urquidy.

Farmer1906 said:

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Wacha, Kluber, Cueto, Miley, Greinke, Smyly could all fill in nicely as back end of the rotation inning eater for 2023.

But this only comes in play if we could actually get something of value for Urquidy.

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I would take Urquidy and his age, resilience, cost and term over most (all?) of those

Farmer1906 said:

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Wacha, Kluber, Cueto, Miley, Greinke, Smyly could all fill in nicely as back end of the rotation inning eater for 2023.

But this only comes in play if we could actually get something of value for Urquidy.

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Yes, of course if we replaced Urq. with a serviceable back end guy I'd be all for getting Reynolds. As long as it's not an either or situation.

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So we renewed our girls Astros Buddies membership to throw have some Astros swag to throw under the tree and this was included.




Thanks Jim

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Idk if this is better or worse, lol. Did some poor intern have to sign a million of these one summer?

This was pure MLB bull**** to get him away from LA and get him off their payroll.

Bauer is an ******* but he didn't break a law. LA should have to pay him his contract in full.

Some bad news. We lost long-time thread poster and a guy I personally enjoyed a lot, LonghornDub. One of his last posts was a classic, after sweeping the Yankees in the ALCS. Looks like he passed a few days later.

https://texags.com/forums/53/topics/3282003/replies/63361145#63361145

Obituary: https://beresfordfunerals.com/obituary/robert-delane-maedgen-jr

Rest In Peace Dub.

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Their own players don't want him in the clubhouse. He's shown no remorse whatsoever. In fact, he's been antagonistic towards the victim and any media who dares to publish something that paints him in a negative light (to the point of harassment). He's a PR time bomb. He's toxic. Sure they could try and trade him, but even if they find a team with a low enough moral standard, they will have to pay most of his salary to get rid of him. They would get next to nothing in return. Might as well just cut him and let him be someone else's problem.

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Is there any evidence that he was in the wrong?

He's been on an interesting YouTube campaign pitching against high schoolers and college players, doesn't seem like he's as bad as the media makes him out to be

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I mean when the sex someone has is so rough that people have to have arguments about how much assault is ok before it's illegal, yeah that person has generally done something wrong. He beat her, choked her to the point of unconsciousness, and raped her while unconscious. I don't give a crap that they didn't charge him with anything. As we learned with Deshaun Watson, the bar for criminal charges is very high. They weren't going to charge him unless they knew 100% they could convict him.

It's not like this is the first time where he's acted like human garbage, and I'm completely ignoring anything to do with the Astros.

Harry Dunne said:

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Some bad news. We lost long-time thread poster and a guy I personally enjoyed a lot, LonghornDub. One of his last posts was a classic, after sweeping the Yankees in the ALCS. Looks like he passed a few days later.

https://texags.com/forums/53/topics/3282003/replies/63361145#63361145

Obituary: https://beresfordfunerals.com/obituary/robert-delane-maedgen-jr

Rest In Peace Dub.

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Damn I really enjoyed Dub on the Astros threads. We lost him before the title too.

Someone bump his epic song(poem?).

Damn. RIP you Baylor grad t shirt sip old coot.

Here.

Sad to hear. Wish he'd gotten to see them win it all. RIP