***Official Houston Astros 2022-23 Offseason Thread***

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100% ok with this because

1) We're not paying him that much

2) He's no threat to us on the Mets
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/04/marlins-open-to-trading-any-pitcher-except-sandy-alcantara/


Cobra39
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Dodged that bullet (if true).

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Deluxe said:

Even though this was expected, it's still sad to see the news. When Scherzer signed his insane contract last year, it was pretty evident that JV would want the same if he had a big year (which he did). And it was pretty obvious that Crane wasn't going to give it to him.

Not worried about the Astros at all though. Looking forward to seeing our next moves.
This.

JV is amazing. But this feels like Cole all over again. It's going to suck to see him in NY, but I don't think he'll be as good. Someone else is paying him based on how dominant he was in Houston, not for what he's doing for their team.
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The All Former Astro Rotation is looking better than ever.

Verlander
Cole
Morton
Musgrove
Keuchel / Greinke / Miley
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Props to JV. He got Astros over the hump in 2017, back to the dance in 2019 and helped us win another one in 2022. This amazing ride doesn't happen without him.
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what is a "vested option" in year three?

Mets with $86mil/year to two 38+ year old pitchers. That's FU Money for Cohen.
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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Thanks for the memories JV
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EastCoastAgNc said:


team/player/Mutual option?
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I'm fine with not paying $43 MM per to JV

Hunter Brown 2023 Rookie of the Year
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MAROON said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


team/player/Mutual option?
Vesting...unclear on what the conditions are for vesting
Jet Black
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Two guys pushing 40 at the top off your rotation seems risky.
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I'd say Lunhow did good on the trade
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Ok, now let's go get Contreras, Brantley and maybe a solid LH bullpen guy. Let's roll.
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Maybe I'm in the minority but I think Contreras will cost too much for too long. Signing him would hurt chances to extend key young guys.

Get brantley and roll with maldy/young catcher. If there's a vet pitcher available for a good shirt deal (cueto?) maybe do that but has to be a good team friendly deal so unlikely.
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very glad that JV ended up in the National League
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Tingly!

Hoping we can sign Brantley to a team friendly deal. Legit question, isn't Contreras just Vazquez 2.0 that Dusty won't play regularly b/c of the risk of losing the DH deep in games?
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Jet Black said:

Two guys pushing 40 at the top off your rotation seems risky.
this is what desperate teams do
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Thanks for the memories JV


Although it's unlikely, I hope he goes in to the HoF wearing an H
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yep, Machete is still going to catch 90 to 100 games
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MosesHallRAB04 said:

Maybe I'm in the minority but I think Contreras will cost too much for too long. Signing him would hurt chances to extend key young guys.

Get brantley and roll with maldy/young catcher. If there's a vet pitcher available for a good shirt deal (cueto?) maybe do that but has to be a good team friendly deal so unlikely.


What year range would you feel good about for Contreras? Lots of decisions are going to need to be made for the 2025 and 2026 seasons.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


And introducing Chandler Rome as

Life is better with a beagle
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I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.

Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
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JV was helped immensely this year by a great pen and a 6 man rotation. He won't have those things in NY.
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All I do is Nguyen said:

It's going to be odd seeing JV as a met. I'm happy for him, it's just going to be weird


Wrong shades of blue and orange
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wangus12 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


Thanks for the memories JV


Although it's unlikely, I hope he goes in to the HoF wearing an H


The choice he made today 100% means there is no chance of that happening.

He needed to finish his career here and win another ring and maybe another CY. Or get to 300 here.
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Still think the players should be allowed to choose what they wear
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the Mets payroll is something else...

$43 MM for JV
$43 MM for Scherzer
$32 MM for Lindor
$20 MM for Cano...still paying him in 2023
$19 MM for Marte

where's the development from the minors?
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OKCAg2002 said:

I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.

Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
The Lance question is the biggest now with our starting pitching. Do we see the Lance of old that gets wins in post season.
7nine
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Looks like the Mets are trying to put the 2012 Detroit Tigers back together.
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OKCAg2002 said:

I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.

Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
Assuming Abreu is staying in the pen, it wouldn't surprise me if we bring in a couple vets on NRI deals to spring training to compete with the young guys for #7 duties.

Given that Javier has never thrown more than 150 innings, Brown will be a rookie throwing no more than ~130, and LMJ's history, we'll need a #7 (and possibly a #8) to eat innings during the dog days. I don't think we need to go out and spend $10 mil for Kluber or Cueto for that role though.
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My next question is this:

Who is going to replace rally Kate?? I am sure going to miss those gifs
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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