100% ok with this because
1) We're not paying him that much
2) He's no threat to us on the Mets
1) We're not paying him that much
2) He's no threat to us on the Mets
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Dodged that bullet (if true).
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This.Deluxe said:
Even though this was expected, it's still sad to see the news. When Scherzer signed his insane contract last year, it was pretty evident that JV would want the same if he had a big year (which he did). And it was pretty obvious that Crane wasn't going to give it to him.
Not worried about the Astros at all though. Looking forward to seeing our next moves.
JV is amazing. But this feels like Cole all over again. It's going to suck to see him in NY, but I don't think he'll be as good. Someone else is paying him based on how dominant he was in Houston, not for what he's doing for their team.
The All Former Astro Rotation is looking better than ever.
Verlander
Cole
Morton
Musgrove
Keuchel / Greinke / Miley
Verlander
Cole
Morton
Musgrove
Keuchel / Greinke / Miley
Props to JV. He got Astros over the hump in 2017, back to the dance in 2019 and helped us win another one in 2022. This amazing ride doesn't happen without him.
what is a "vested option" in year three?
Mets with $86mil/year to two 38+ year old pitchers. That's FU Money for Cohen.
Mets with $86mil/year to two 38+ year old pitchers. That's FU Money for Cohen.
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
Verlander details #mets
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 5, 2022
$43.3M per year
Full no trade
3rd year option: at $35M
I don't think losing Justin Verlander puts the Astros in the pitching market. The prices right now are huge and Houston has Framber Valdez, Lance McCullers Jr, Cristian Javier, Luis Garcia, José Urquidy and Hunter Brown coming back.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 5, 2022
Mets at Astros, June 19-21 next year. Verlander ring presentation, I presume.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 5, 2022
What a run by Justin Verlander in Houston:
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 5, 2022
61-19, 2.26 ERA, 0.83 WHIP in 102 starts
2 Cy Young Awards
1 Cy Young runner-up
300-strikeout season
ALCS MVP
3rd no-hitter
3,000th strikeout
2 World Series titles
Thanks for the memories JV
team/player/Mutual option?EastCoastAgNc said:Verlander details #mets
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 5, 2022
$43.3M per year
Full no trade
3rd year option: at $35M
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
I'm fine with not paying $43 MM per to JV
Hunter Brown 2023 Rookie of the Year
Hunter Brown 2023 Rookie of the Year
Vesting...unclear on what the conditions are for vestingMAROON said:team/player/Mutual option?EastCoastAgNc said:Verlander details #mets
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 5, 2022
$43.3M per year
Full no trade
3rd year option: at $35M
Two guys pushing 40 at the top off your rotation seems risky.
Franklin Perez, Daz Cameron and Jake Rogers have combined for 0.5 bWAR. Perez hasn't pitched in the majors. Cameron isn't on a 40-man roster. Rogers is recovering from elbow surgery.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 5, 2022
I'd say Lunhow did good on the trade
Ok, now let's go get Contreras, Brantley and maybe a solid LH bullpen guy. Let's roll.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I think Contreras will cost too much for too long. Signing him would hurt chances to extend key young guys.
Get brantley and roll with maldy/young catcher. If there's a vet pitcher available for a good shirt deal (cueto?) maybe do that but has to be a good team friendly deal so unlikely.
Get brantley and roll with maldy/young catcher. If there's a vet pitcher available for a good shirt deal (cueto?) maybe do that but has to be a good team friendly deal so unlikely.
very glad that JV ended up in the National League
Tingly!EastCoastAgNc said:Mets at Astros, June 19-21 next year. Verlander ring presentation, I presume.
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 5, 2022
Hoping we can sign Brantley to a team friendly deal. Legit question, isn't Contreras just Vazquez 2.0 that Dusty won't play regularly b/c of the risk of losing the DH deep in games?
this is what desperate teams doJet Black said:
Two guys pushing 40 at the top off your rotation seems risky.
EastCoastAgNc said:What a run by Justin Verlander in Houston:
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 5, 2022
61-19, 2.26 ERA, 0.83 WHIP in 102 starts
2 Cy Young Awards
1 Cy Young runner-up
300-strikeout season
ALCS MVP
3rd no-hitter
3,000th strikeout
2 World Series titles
Thanks for the memories JV
Although it's unlikely, I hope he goes in to the HoF wearing an H
yep, Machete is still going to catch 90 to 100 games
MosesHallRAB04 said:
Maybe I'm in the minority but I think Contreras will cost too much for too long. Signing him would hurt chances to extend key young guys.
Get brantley and roll with maldy/young catcher. If there's a vet pitcher available for a good shirt deal (cueto?) maybe do that but has to be a good team friendly deal so unlikely.
What year range would you feel good about for Contreras? Lots of decisions are going to need to be made for the 2025 and 2026 seasons.
And introducing Chandler Rome asEastCoastAgNc said:I don't think losing Justin Verlander puts the Astros in the pitching market. The prices right now are huge and Houston has Framber Valdez, Lance McCullers Jr, Cristian Javier, Luis Garcia, José Urquidy and Hunter Brown coming back.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) December 5, 2022
Life is better with a beagle
I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.
Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
JV was helped immensely this year by a great pen and a 6 man rotation. He won't have those things in NY.
All I do is Nguyen said:
It's going to be odd seeing JV as a met. I'm happy for him, it's just going to be weird
Wrong shades of blue and orange
wangus12 said:EastCoastAgNc said:What a run by Justin Verlander in Houston:
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) December 5, 2022
61-19, 2.26 ERA, 0.83 WHIP in 102 starts
2 Cy Young Awards
1 Cy Young runner-up
300-strikeout season
ALCS MVP
3rd no-hitter
3,000th strikeout
2 World Series titles
Thanks for the memories JV
Although it's unlikely, I hope he goes in to the HoF wearing an H
The choice he made today 100% means there is no chance of that happening.
He needed to finish his career here and win another ring and maybe another CY. Or get to 300 here.
Still think the players should be allowed to choose what they wear
the Mets payroll is something else...
$43 MM for JV
$43 MM for Scherzer
$32 MM for Lindor
$20 MM for Cano...still paying him in 2023
$19 MM for Marte
where's the development from the minors?
$43 MM for JV
$43 MM for Scherzer
$32 MM for Lindor
$20 MM for Cano...still paying him in 2023
$19 MM for Marte
where's the development from the minors?
The Lance question is the biggest now with our starting pitching. Do we see the Lance of old that gets wins in post season.OKCAg2002 said:
I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.
Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
7nine
Looks like the Mets are trying to put the 2012 Detroit Tigers back together.
Assuming Abreu is staying in the pen, it wouldn't surprise me if we bring in a couple vets on NRI deals to spring training to compete with the young guys for #7 duties.OKCAg2002 said:
I'd like to see us pick up one more starting pitcher veteran as an insurance policy if at all possible. LMJ's injury history is a real concern. And I think the 6 man rotation may be here to stay.
Framber, Javier, LMJ, Brown, Garcia, and Urquidy is pretty good. I know that they want to experiment with Abreu as a SP, so that could provide some depth, too.
Given that Javier has never thrown more than 150 innings, Brown will be a rookie throwing no more than ~130, and LMJ's history, we'll need a #7 (and possibly a #8) to eat innings during the dog days. I don't think we need to go out and spend $10 mil for Kluber or Cueto for that role though.
My next question is this:
Who is going to replace rally Kate?? I am sure going to miss those gifs
Who is going to replace rally Kate?? I am sure going to miss those gifs
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist