EastCoastAgNc said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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I will be a bit bummed if JV signs a 2-year deal elsewhere. I get $40M+ per year is definitely high, 2 years vs. 3 years is much more palatable. 3 years is a non-starter for me.

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We don't need him with our rotation depth, especially at that price / that many years. He's done great things here, but he's a hired assassin. This next contract is his retirement plan, and putting him in NY with the mets pretty much guarantees he won't be a playoff threat.

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The Porkchop Express said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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I will be a bit bummed if JV signs a 2-year deal elsewhere. I get $40M+ per year is definitely high, 2 years vs. 3 years is much more palatable. 3 years is a non-starter for me.

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We don't need him with our rotation depth, especially at that price / that many years. He's done great things here, but he's a hired assassin. This next contract is his retirement plan, and putting him in NY with the mets pretty much guarantees he won't be a playoff threat.

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I'm not saying it's logical, but I assumed we would lose out to a team who who give him a 3 year deal. I get we have depth, but I'd still rather we have JV than not IF the circumstances were right.

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Its the same feeling we all had with Correa last year. All the BS then he signs the risky dink deal with the twins we all say the money shouldn't matter, but the guy is soon to retire and barring some terrible tragedy probably has another 40 years or more of life left. If I have certain expectations foe my lifestyle for the rest of my days with my supermodel wife and young kid, I like the idea of $87 million instead of $60 million for the next 2 years too. I've got 2 rings, let me get paid ad much as possible.

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Prosperdick said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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I will be a bit bummed if JV signs a 2-year deal elsewhere. I get $40M+ per year is definitely high, 2 years vs. 3 years is much more palatable. 3 years is a non-starter for me.

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We don't need him with our rotation depth, especially at that price / that many years. He's done great things here, but he's a hired assassin. This next contract is his retirement plan, and putting him in NY with the mets pretty much guarantees he won't be a playoff threat.

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I'm not saying it's logical, but I assumed we would lose out to a team who who give him a 3 year deal. I get we have depth, but I'd still rather we have JV than not IF the circumstances were right.

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Its the same feeling we all had with Correa last year. All the BS then he signs the risky dink deal with the twins we all say the money shouldn't matter, but the guy is soon to retire and barring some terrible tragedy probably has another 40 years or more of life left. If I have certain expectations foe my lifestyle for the rest of my days with my supermodel wife and young kid, I like the idea of $87 million instead of $60 million for the next 2 years too. I've got 2 rings, let me get paid ad much as possible.

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Prosperdick said:

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$43.4M per year...yeah I don't think Crane will go anywhere near that nor should he. What's odd is that would be the team I hate the least out of the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets...I guess time does heal all wounds.

What's great is it's yet another NL East team we would face in the World Series and we would get to feast on World Series Justin.

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amercer said:

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Does a 3rd year "mutual" option mean they both have to agree to it, or that either side can opt in?

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mm98 said:

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amercer said:

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Does a 3rd year "mutual" option mean they both have to agree to it, or that either side can opt in?

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Both. And they're rarely used from what I recall.

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Prosperdick said:

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The Porkchop Express said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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I will be a bit bummed if JV signs a 2-year deal elsewhere. I get $40M+ per year is definitely high, 2 years vs. 3 years is much more palatable. 3 years is a non-starter for me.

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We don't need him with our rotation depth, especially at that price / that many years. He's done great things here, but he's a hired assassin. This next contract is his retirement plan, and putting him in NY with the mets pretty much guarantees he won't be a playoff threat.

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I'm not saying it's logical, but I assumed we would lose out to a team who who give him a 3 year deal. I get we have depth, but I'd still rather we have JV than not IF the circumstances were right.

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Its the same feeling we all had with Correa last year. All the BS then he signs the risky dink deal with the twins we all say the money shouldn't matter, but the guy is soon to retire and barring some terrible tragedy probably has another 40 years or more of life left. If I have certain expectations foe my lifestyle for the rest of my days with my supermodel wife and young kid, I like the idea of $87 million instead of $60 million for the next 2 years too. I've got 2 rings, let me get paid ad much as possible.

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Why wouldn't I be serious? Although my math was off. But if I'm going to be retiring soon and living the rest of my life off my investments, I'd like the option when I have $87 million instead of $70 million.

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Farmer1906 said:

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Was looking at Reynolds and thought he might be a CF who transitiions to corner soon, but it looks like 2022 is an outlier.



He's not really slowing down speed-wise, but how often does someone drop 92% points without some kind of crazy injury?

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Right-hander Justin Verlander and the New York Mets are in agreement on a contract, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 5, 2022

Verlander to Mets. $86M 2 years. Vesting option 3rd year.

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 5, 2022

Justin Verlander’s deal with the Mets is for two years and $86 million, per source. It includes a vesting third-year option. After losing Jacob deGrom, the Mets replace him with the American League Cy Young Award winner, who will be paired atop their rotation with Max Scherzer.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 5, 2022

Sex Panther said:

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That's a bummer but it just didn't make sense for us... best of luck to him unless he plays the Stros in the World Series


Now go get Contreras

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OKCAg2002 said:

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Now that we have closure, I'm all aboard the Contreras train. Sign Brantley to a team friendly deal and allow him to be a role player as the left handed bat.

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