He makes Maldonao look like Honus Wagner at the plate.BeaumontAg05 said:
Why does everyone hate Brad Ausmus so much? Seems more than just he isn't a good coach.
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There are 2 remaining assistant GMs. They were both Click guys. I don't think it's a lock they continue their jobs. After that, you go down to the director level. I am sure they know what they're doing, but are they senior enough to trust with this decision-making at a high level? I have no idea. I am not in baseball OPS. I don't know the answer to all my questions. I don't think anyone on here does either. I do know there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes or miss opportunities. None of them is likely season-altering, but I like to have every edge possible.AggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Who are they adding to the 40 man to protect?Buck Compton said:Most of this **** is already taken care of. You don't make these decisions last minute.Farmer1906 said:
Who is handling the following now?
Any early FA signings? FA opened yesterday, TARGET LIST ALREADY IDENTIFIED
40-man roster decisions to protect guys from rule 5 draft (Nov 15 deadline) DONE
Non tender decisions. (Nov 18 deadline) DONE
Winter meetings aka the biggest event for signings and trades of the offseason. (Dec 5-8) CRANE AND SOME OTHERS WILL ATTEND. ONLY LOOKING AT MAYBE ONE POTENTIAL TRADE AND 1-2 FA SIGNINGS
Rule 5 Draft (Dec 7) OVERHYPED. WE AREN'T LIKELY TO DRAFT ANYONE. ONLY 1-2 PEOPLE WE NEED TO PROTECT.
There is a lot of really important **** happening and we got no one manning the ship.
Who are they targeting in FA? Who is determining the value of each guy?
Who did are they going to non tender?
Who is deciding who we trade in this one potential trade? BTW who let you know they're only looking at one?
Who are the 1-2 people they want to protect?
I mean, surely Click isn't solely the guy making all those decisions, he's just signing off on them
So I think those plans are already in work by other office staff and Crane will sign off for them instead
I have to say...the owner running off the analytical GM and siding with the non-analytical coach...after 7 years of success built by analytics is a bit concerning. Crane has shown some aptitude for this stuff...but I hope to hell he has a plan to keep the machine rolling.
Then again, everyone knows that Dusty is his darling. What GM wants to come work in the environment with the coach having more say?
Then again, everyone knows that Dusty is his darling. What GM wants to come work in the environment with the coach having more say?
And it's been that way for a while which is why the argument of 'What decent players did Click land?' is dumb.
We haven't needed any
We haven't needed any
Quick change of pace. FTX was a major MLB sponsor this the last 2 seasons and had 3 more years on the deal. Yikes.
The 2nd largest crypto exchange in the world, FTX, stole billions of dollars from their users and were having massive company-wide sex orgies while doing so.
— Chairman (@WSBChairman) November 11, 2022
2022 is a simulation. pic.twitter.com/WKAba5d34s
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— RB ⚾️ (@HeyyRB) November 11, 2022
Assistant GMs don't just jump and leave cause their boss was fired. They may leave eventually, but maybe not. They aren't millionaires or rolling in a ton of extra cash. Plus, stepping up to support is a huge career opportunity.Farmer1906 said:There are 2 remaining assistant GMs. They were both Click guys. I don't think it's a lock they continue their jobs. After that, you go down to the director level. I am sure they know what they're doing, but are they senior enough to trust with this decision-making at a high level? I have no idea. I am not in baseball OPS. I don't know the answer to all my questions. I don't think anyone on here does either. I do know there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes or miss opportunities. None of them is likely season-altering, but I like to have every edge possible.AggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Who are they adding to the 40 man to protect?Buck Compton said:Most of this **** is already taken care of. You don't make these decisions last minute.Farmer1906 said:
Who is handling the following now?
Any early FA signings? FA opened yesterday, TARGET LIST ALREADY IDENTIFIED
40-man roster decisions to protect guys from rule 5 draft (Nov 15 deadline) DONE
Non tender decisions. (Nov 18 deadline) DONE
Winter meetings aka the biggest event for signings and trades of the offseason. (Dec 5-8) CRANE AND SOME OTHERS WILL ATTEND. ONLY LOOKING AT MAYBE ONE POTENTIAL TRADE AND 1-2 FA SIGNINGS
Rule 5 Draft (Dec 7) OVERHYPED. WE AREN'T LIKELY TO DRAFT ANYONE. ONLY 1-2 PEOPLE WE NEED TO PROTECT.
There is a lot of really important **** happening and we got no one manning the ship.
Who are they targeting in FA? Who is determining the value of each guy?
Who did are they going to non tender?
Who is deciding who we trade in this one potential trade? BTW who let you know they're only looking at one?
Who are the 1-2 people they want to protect?
I mean, surely Click isn't solely the guy making all those decisions, he's just signing off on them
So I think those plans are already in work by other office staff and Crane will sign off for them instead
Seems like a lot of fear in your analysis, which is no way to make decisions in an organization. If Crane doesn't think Click is the right guy, and has made that decision, there's literally no reason to keep him around even a second longer. No matter the deadlines. But especially if he didn't trust Clock to make the right decisions around those deadlines.
Farmer1906 said:
Quick change of pace. FTX was a major MLB sponsor this the last 2 seasons and had 3 more years on the deal. Yikes.The 2nd largest crypto exchange in the world, FTX, stole billions of dollars from their users and were having massive company-wide sex orgies while doing so.
— Chairman (@WSBChairman) November 11, 2022
2022 is a simulation. pic.twitter.com/WKAba5d34s
Wait. That's the logo on all the ump unis. So all the unbiased guys are being sponsored by a crypto fund. I find that hilarious given their use in illicit activities.
This feels like a Bagwell buddy move
Was it Ausmus or Garner's that lived in Kingwood and the wife campaigned hard against building the stadium? Think because of Houston annexing Kingwood.
Fear? I guess. I think there is a **** ton of unknown and I "fear" mistakes could be made that don't have to be.Buck Compton said:Assistant GMs don't just jump and leave cause their boss was fired. They may leave eventually, but maybe not. They aren't millionaires or rolling in a ton of extra cash. Plus, stepping up to support is a huge career opportunity.Farmer1906 said:There are 2 remaining assistant GMs. They were both Click guys. I don't think it's a lock they continue their jobs. After that, you go down to the director level. I am sure they know what they're doing, but are they senior enough to trust with this decision-making at a high level? I have no idea. I am not in baseball OPS. I don't know the answer to all my questions. I don't think anyone on here does either. I do know there are plenty of opportunities to make mistakes or miss opportunities. None of them is likely season-altering, but I like to have every edge possible.AggiEE said:Farmer1906 said:Who are they adding to the 40 man to protect?Buck Compton said:Most of this **** is already taken care of. You don't make these decisions last minute.Farmer1906 said:
Who is handling the following now?
Any early FA signings? FA opened yesterday, TARGET LIST ALREADY IDENTIFIED
40-man roster decisions to protect guys from rule 5 draft (Nov 15 deadline) DONE
Non tender decisions. (Nov 18 deadline) DONE
Winter meetings aka the biggest event for signings and trades of the offseason. (Dec 5-8) CRANE AND SOME OTHERS WILL ATTEND. ONLY LOOKING AT MAYBE ONE POTENTIAL TRADE AND 1-2 FA SIGNINGS
Rule 5 Draft (Dec 7) OVERHYPED. WE AREN'T LIKELY TO DRAFT ANYONE. ONLY 1-2 PEOPLE WE NEED TO PROTECT.
There is a lot of really important **** happening and we got no one manning the ship.
Who are they targeting in FA? Who is determining the value of each guy?
Who did are they going to non tender?
Who is deciding who we trade in this one potential trade? BTW who let you know they're only looking at one?
Who are the 1-2 people they want to protect?
I mean, surely Click isn't solely the guy making all those decisions, he's just signing off on them
So I think those plans are already in work by other office staff and Crane will sign off for them instead
Seems like a lot of fear in your analysis, which is no way to make decisions in an organization. If Crane doesn't think Click is the right guy, and has made that decision, there's literally no reason to keep him around even a second longer. No matter the deadlines. But especially if he didn't trust Clock to make the right decisions around those deadlines.
Assistant GMs will stop working and start working somewhere else when offered.
If Crane doesn't trust Click, why would he trust the org Click built?
I agree if Crane and Click weren't going to work, sever ties. But, hopefully, there is a plan in place to not miss a beat. Right now all the rumors are Bagwell, Jackson, & Ausmus helping out. If that's true, then there is a problem. I think everyone would agree with that.
I am all for upgrading. I think Sig would be awesome. I am less sold on Stearns, but I could be very wrong.
cone said:
he's the absolute best
will fight for his honor
I almost did at a bar in Oklahoma City last week. The only Philly fans in the place had to sit next to the guy in navy and orange.
Click's departure is the rare opportunity for all of the Board GM's to finally get an interview and tell Jim how they'd run the team.
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The Porkchop Express said:He makes Maldonao look like Honus Wagner at the plate.BeaumontAg05 said:
Why does everyone hate Brad Ausmus so much? Seems more than just he isn't a good coach.
Every time Assmus used to come up to the plate my buddies and I used to say, "Here comes the deuce, strike 3."
I sent Bill Byrne a resume in 2005 after one of Fran's humiliations. I was still in college.The Porkchop Express said:
Click's departure is the rare opportunity for all of the Board GM's to finally get an interview and tell Jim how they'd run the team.
Thinice said:
Was it Ausmus or Garner's that lived in Kingwood and the wife campaigned hard against building the stadium? Think because of Houston annexing Kingwood.
Garners, played ball with Ty.
Had to be Garner's. A buddy of mine actually sold Ausmus his first house in Sugarland when he moved here (he put "Houston Astrodome" under workplace on the prospect form). He always moved back to California in the offseason, and my buddy said Liz Ausmus was pretty cool, but more into the California vibe. I don't see why they would care about the annexing of Kingwood.Thinice said:
Was it Ausmus or Garner's that lived in Kingwood and the wife campaigned hard against building the stadium? Think because of Houston annexing Kingwood.
cablinaggie said:Had to be Garner's. A buddy of mine actually sold Ausmus his first house in Sugarland when he moved here (he put "Houston Astrodome" under workplace on the prospect form). He always moved back to California in the offseason, and my buddy said Liz Ausmus was pretty cool, but more into the California vibe. I don't see why they would care about the annexing of Kingwood.Thinice said:
Was it Ausmus or Garner's that lived in Kingwood and the wife campaigned hard against building the stadium? Think because of Houston annexing Kingwood.
Garners were in Kingwood for awhile
I agree that a committee approach would be trash. Right now Crane has earned the benefit of the doubt to me, even with the unknowns. Of course we would rather have a GM in place for these activities, I just don't think it's the end of the world just yet.
And where else are we seeing Austin's rumors except for one dude that said "likely overhaul" and look to Ausmus. He could very well just be throwing **** against the wall.
Crane has a plan. If that succeeds is yet to be seen, but he has answers to every question we've asked and likely ones we haven't asked.
And where else are we seeing Austin's rumors except for one dude that said "likely overhaul" and look to Ausmus. He could very well just be throwing **** against the wall.
Crane has a plan. If that succeeds is yet to be seen, but he has answers to every question we've asked and likely ones we haven't asked.
I'm not worried about Crane's oversight of the Astros until he gives me a reason to be. So far, he's given me none. I'd be very surprised if he let Click walk without having a short and long term plan.Buck Compton said:
Crane has a plan. If that succeeds is yet to be seen, but he has answers to every question we've asked and likely ones we haven't asked.
Now, if that plan is to outsource decision making to Reggie/Bags/Ausmus this year and we win 86 games, I'll change my tune. But I don't think that the case. In the meantime, I don't feel worried about this at all
Might be interesting to see if crane is aggressive in the FA market now that he can kind of do whatever he wants
I don't think we're going to be any more or less aggressive than normal if there's no acting GM. We've abided by a certain set of organizational principles for a while now and they've worked very well. I don't see Crane as some sort of wildcatter who's eager to go in and shake up a fine tuned machine. Status quo is just fine.tjack16 said:
Might be interesting to see if crane is aggressive in the FA market now that he can kind of do whatever he wants
The Houston Astros also fired assistant general manager Scott Powers, sources told ESPN. Powers was a former R&D executive with the Dodgers who was brought in as an AGM by James Click in January. Now Click and Powers are gone from the World Series champions on the same day.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 11, 2022
The Houston Astros also fired assistant general manager Scott Powers, sources told ESPN. Powers was a former R&D executive with the Dodgers who was brought in as an AGM by James Click in January. Now Click and Powers are gone from the World Series champions on the same day.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 11, 2022
Tweets Passan with glee.
Panama Red said:
Agreed its a bad way to look at it, but in the end Dusty was proven correct. Pena in the 2 spot was a great decision.
I think Click was a fine GM. Don't know that he's irreplaceable.
The numbers prove that
Sure the offense was the same with Pena in the 2 hole, but it was somehow able to help the pitching staff pitch better...remarkable
?
Farmer1906 said:The Houston Astros also fired assistant general manager Scott Powers, sources told ESPN. Powers was a former R&D executive with the Dodgers who was brought in as an AGM by James Click in January. Now Click and Powers are gone from the World Series champions on the same day.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 11, 2022
It's now fair to speculate who is left in charge.
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My opinion is this kind of sucks. I feel Crane has a big head and needs to step away instead of ruining it. He's already made a ton off his investment and won multiple championships, why rock the boat and have such high turnover? A lot of things we don't know from the outside looking in, but this looks idiotic.
My level of worry with the Astros has a perfectly negative correlation with Jeff Passan and Chander Rome's level of worry about the Astros.
redline248 said:
I have to say...the owner running off the analytical GM and siding with the non-analytical coach...after 7 years of success built by analytics is a bit concerning. Crane has shown some aptitude for this stuff...but I hope to hell he has a plan to keep the machine rolling.
Then again, everyone knows that Dusty is his darling. What GM wants to come work in the environment with the coach having more say?
You think backlash is bad now
Imagine if he signed Click and let Dusty go
Why can't the source of the issue be between Dusty and Click with Crane just trying to best manage them
Is the hyperventilation party still going on, or did everyone pass out and I missed all the fun?
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