Major League Baseball has suspended Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer for 324 games, the equivalent of two full seasons. https://t.co/E7jKqmUsem
— SB Nation (@SBNation) April 29, 2022
This is a pretty poor take, IMO. MLB is a business and has it's own set of bylaws and rules, they aren't governed by the same manners or requirements of a criminal court. If all this were to happen to you, do you think you wouldn't lose your job?Red Five said:
So he is suspended without pay for 2 years despite never being charged with a criminal offense and having the original request for a restraining order denied? He seems like a dick but I hope he sues MLB for the full 2 years of salary plus damages. Rob Manfred is a clown.
you're partially correct IMO,...I get what you're saying, but IMO here is where you have it wrong. I believe only the Dodgers should be allowed to suspend him if they choose, since technically he's an employee of the team, not MLB. MLB does not pay Bauer once cent.htxag09 said:This is a pretty poor take, IMO. MLB is a business and has it's own set of bylaws and rules, they aren't governed by the same manners or requirements of a criminal court. If all this were to happen to you, do you think you wouldn't lose your job?Red Five said:
So he is suspended without pay for 2 years despite never being charged with a criminal offense and having the original request for a restraining order denied? He seems like a dick but I hope he sues MLB for the full 2 years of salary plus damages. Rob Manfred is a clown.
Not saying I agree with the MLB's decision, just pointing out that innocence in a criminal court does not mean you're entitled to keep your job or exempt from possible repercussions at your job.
I want to say this is wrong because I think even on the district level schools can get teacher's certificate suspended or withdrawn to where they can't teach. They threatened my wife with it when she was leaving her school district in the middle of the year.Quote:
It is like if a teacher in TX is accused of saying something in class and the district chooses to fire the teacher even though their is no evidence of it happening besides a student saying it did, they have that right. However, the state can't take away their teaching certificate or ability to be employed by another district because of that accusation.
wangus12 said:I want to say this is wrong because I think even on the district level schools can get teacher's certificate suspended or withdrawn to where they can't teach. They threatened my wife with it when she was leaving her school district in the middle of the year.Quote:
It is like if a teacher in TX is accused of saying something in class and the district chooses to fire the teacher even though their is no evidence of it happening besides a student saying it did, they have that right. However, the state can't take away their teaching certificate or ability to be employed by another district because of that accusation.
yes, it can happen. But not in a he said/she said situation with no evidencewangus12 said:I want to say this is wrong because I think even on the district level schools can get teacher's certificate suspended or withdrawn to where they can't teach. They threatened my wife with it when she was leaving her school district in the middle of the year.Quote:
It is like if a teacher in TX is accused of saying something in class and the district chooses to fire the teacher even though their is no evidence of it happening besides a student saying it did, they have that right. However, the state can't take away their teaching certificate or ability to be employed by another district because of that accusation.
I get what you're saying about MLB having the authority to suspend him, but you missed my point. My point was since he technically hasn't been proven guilty with anything MLB was overstepping their authority by the large suspension. If the Dodgers wanted to do that, more power to them, but IMO in his situation with him not actually breaking any laws MLB should not suspend him.BMX Bandit said:
its not like the teacher situation at all.
Bauer is in the MLBPA which has agreed with MLB to allow league to suspend players, not just teams.
that said, this 2 years seems absurd based on what we know. he will fight it and my guess is that is gets reduced a lot
that's not what I saidBMX Bandit said:
whether they should or not is up for debate. but they clearly can. you claimed they didn't have that ability since not employee. thats not correct.
Full statement from MLB. pic.twitter.com/jg8m14CSm5
— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) December 23, 2022
This video was taken by Trevor Bauer's accuser on the morning of May 16th after the alleged assault that she claimed took place on May 15th. No scars. No bruises. She's smiling and seems happy. pic.twitter.com/fFUlqnGmS5
— iTalk Studios (@iTalkStudiosYT) December 23, 2022
Wasn't there more than one encounter? Hard to say which one this one was from.bigcat22 said:
The guy is a ******, but when the victim posts this video of the morning after then deleges it, it's hard to disagree with his version of the storyThis video was taken by Trevor Bauer's accuser on the morning of May 16th after the alleged assault that she claimed took place on May 15th. No scars. No bruises. She's smiling and seems happy. pic.twitter.com/fFUlqnGmS5
— iTalk Studios (@iTalkStudiosYT) December 23, 2022
AustinCountyAg said:that's not what I saidBMX Bandit said:
whether they should or not is up for debate. but they clearly can. you claimed they didn't have that ability since not employee. thats not correct.
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IMO here is where you have it wrong. I believe only the Dodgers should be allowed to suspend him if they choose, since technically he's an employee of the team, not MLB. MLB does not pay Bauer once cent.
A 2 year suspension for freaky sex with the wrong woman who thinks it's okay to defame someone when she's bitter about not getting a relationship.DannyDuberstein said:
Nearly 2 year suspension for freaky deaky sex.
Of course the LA Times made the Osuna/Astros reference.Quote:
Will Trevor Bauer play Major League Baseball again? What executives around the league are saying
Trevor Bauer became a free agent on Thursday, but the market will be a lot more hostile toward the 2020 National League Cy Young Award winner than it was two winters ago, when Bauer signed a three-year, $102-million deal with the Dodgers after turning down a lucrative offer from the New York Mets.
"The only guy who I know for sure would sign him is Al Davis," one high-ranking major league executive said, referring to the renegade Oakland Raiders owner who relished his organization's bad-boy image right up until his death in 2011.
Bauer was designated for assignment last Friday, the Dodgers choosing to sever ties with the right-hander and swallow the remaining $22.5 million on his contract rather than face the potential public backlash of retaining him.
The Dodgers were unable to trade Bauer by Thursday, the end of a seven-day window in which they had to deal him, and the embattled pitcher was given his unconditional release.
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The odds of a deal in the week the Dodgers had to trade him were remote considering any team interested in Bauer could sign him for the major league minimum salary of $720,000 and not give up any prospects.
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The Times reached out to 16 front-office executives, most of them team presidents and general managers, to see whether they had any interest in signing Bauer, who went 8-5 with a 2.59 ERA in 17 starts with the Dodgers in 2021 but hasn't pitched in a professional game in 19 months.
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Of the 11 who responded, seven were a hard "no," one said, "I doubt it," one said, "We are probably out," and two declined to comment altogether, with one of those executives saying, "I'm not touching that topic."
But that doesn't necessarily mean MLB has seen the last of Bauer, who has an 83-69 career record and 3.79 ERA in 10 big league seasons and won his Cy Young Award with the Cincinnati Reds in the pandemic-shortened 2020 season.
"He's so affordable, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody does sign him and weathers the storm for spring training and the first two weeks of the season and then hopes it kind of dies down," said one GM who was granted anonymity to speak freely about the situation.
"Maybe it's not spring training [that Bauer signs], maybe it's May 1 or June 1, maybe it's more strategically timed for a team to get out of spring training and avoid the early noise, but I'll be surprised if he doesn't play again."
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"I've asked my wife, I've asked the wife [of another team executive], how would you feel if we, as an organization, signed someone with this type of history," another GM said. "The responses were not favorable."
The Houston Astros acquired Roberto Osuna from the Toronto Blue Jays at the trade deadline in 2018 while the closer was serving a 75-game suspension in the wake of his arrest in Toronto for allegedly assaulting his girlfriend.
Osuna went 4-3 with a 2.63 ERA and 38 saves in 2019 for the Astros, who lost a seven-game World Series to Washington, but he missed most of 2020 because of an elbow injury and was let go after the season.
Osuna pitched in Mexico in 2021 and in Japan in 2022, going 4-1 with an 0.91 ERA and 10 saves in 29 games for the Chiba Lotte Marines last season, but he is struggling to find another major league job.
Bauer will likely face similar roadblocks as he attempts to return.
"Obviously," one GM said, "it's a delicate subject."
thats not why he's being blackballed.Quote:
mainly because he's been outspoken of MLB.
well then why is he?BMX Bandit said:thats not why he's being blackballed.Quote:
mainly because he's been outspoken of MLB.
Maybe because no team wants the PR nightmare of a guy who gets his jollies by hooking up with and paying women to let him beat the crap out of them.AustinCountyAg said:well then why is he?BMX Bandit said:thats not why he's being blackballed.Quote:
mainly because he's been outspoken of MLB.
yes, banned was a bad word on my part. blackballed is betterjkag89 said:
First of all, he is not banned. He has been a club house cancer everywhere he has gone. Add that to all the negative pub a club will get for claiming him off waivers. There is a point where all teams ask is this player's talent worth all this baggage? This might change as the season progresses but right now all 30 MLB clubs think the answer is nope, he ain't worth it.
not gunna dive into details, because they are already out there but it was found by the court to be consensual.BMX Bandit said:
It was consensual according to him.
Who are the players playing that have done worse things and also disliked by their teammates?
I think his punishment was too harsh, glad it was reduced, I don't think he deserves any kind of lifetime ban. But I am not the one writing the checks and having to deal with the backlash from the media and clubhouse.
