Yeah, trading Garcia with that many years of control would make no flippin sense. I assume this was all much ado about nothing rumor simply due to trying to get him a day off

If somebody overpaid for Adolis I'd consider it, but he's the kind of guy who brings a spark to the team and you have a lot of control over him.

I like Adolis Garcia, but he's not some franchise cornerstone or even all-star caliber player. He's around a .250 hitter, good power, good speed, tons of swing and miss, and the occasional boneheaded play in the outfield (although a plus defender overall). He's also an older guy in the MLB already.

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I just don't get his newsletter. I used to love reading his daily updates

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ahem, it's free. I get, just don't always have time to read the emails. Good info though for those that like to keep up with the minor leaguers.

**he does put out a donation call towards the end of the season, for those that are so inclined. So "kinda" free might be a better description.

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I like Adolis Garcia, but he's not some franchise cornerstone or even all-star caliber player. He's around a .250 hitter, good power, good speed, tons of swing and miss, and the occasional boneheaded play in the outfield (although a plus defender overall). He's also an older guy in the MLB already.

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He produces and was an all star last year, although yeah, not likely to be a routine one. That said, the huge factor is that he is not arb eligible until '24 and FA until '27. Producers that are cheap are key to building out a team. If you can get 4 more years of .250/30HR/90-100 RBI which is what we've seen so far, you hang on to that. He'll be 33 at the end of it, so while older, he's young enough that he shouldn't fall off in the controllable stretch

It is more about the push/pull. I liked being able to go read it, if I wanted.

I like to compartmentalize baseball away from email and work.

I think you and I have had this discussion.

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For anyone who's interested, I'd recommend a podcast that is done by The Ticket called Diamond Pod. Features Scott Lucas, Michael Tepid and Sean Bass. It's pretty informative - Lucas and Tepid watch the minor league players a LOT, and having tried a number of Rangers-related podcasts, I think theirs is the best, and most accurate.
It's free, I subscribed on iTunes and listen it to it regularly. They do it about once a week.

* DallasAg, you'd especially like it because they bash the front office and Woodward on the regular :-)

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Both Tepid and Lucas are solid.

I used to follow Lucas when he did a daily blog. I'm sure he quit doing it because everyone was ripping off his information. I read his page several times a week for many years.

I've stumbled on Tepid frequently. When I'm looking for info or find something I like, it is often from him.

I can't say enough about both.

I don't recognize Bass... probably come across he from time to time.

I used to listen to The Ticket back in the late '90s. They got to the point I wouldn't want my kids listening to their material and since I seemed to often have kids in the car... lost interest.

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* DallasAg, you'd especially like it because they bash the front office and Woodward on the regular :-)

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I never really basked Woodward. I saw him as managing the talent he has to a season's end. Don't have Bally's, so I went from watching/listening to 130+ games a season... to about 10-15.

Even Mrs DallasAg 94 says, "I sure miss hearing baseball."

I know Tepid. Really good dude.

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rbtexan said:

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* DallasAg, you'd especially like it because they bash the front office and Woodward on the regular :-)

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I never really basked Woodward. I saw him as managing the talent he has to a season's end. Don't have Bally's, so I went from watching/listening to 130+ games a season... to about 10-15.

Even Mrs DallasAg 94 says, "I sure miss hearing baseball."

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That's one of the few advantages of being a Ranger's fan living in Tennessee. I subscribe to the MLB app every year and can watch all the games. I sure hope they get that Bally's nonsense figured out for you guys soon.

On the down side, I get to watch a lot of poorly managed games. I'm becoming less & less of a Woodward fan by the day. I mentioned earlier in this thread my frustration when he took Howard out of a game after 5 shutout innings and about 76 pitches. Well, now we have a completely gassed bullpen. Which is why you don't take a guy out when he has a low pitch count and is throwing a shutout. It's not like he wasn't extended, he'd been starting in AAA. Oh well, I digress.

dang if Rangers are shopping Adolis, I hope they at least included him as an MLB player in a package for Soto

He's simply off tonight and people jumped to the conclusion that he was being shopped.

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dang if Rangers are shopping Adolis, I hope they at least included him as an MLB player in a package for Soto

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Well the trade deadline has passed so now worries!

Question…is the post trade deadline wavier process and pickup the same as before the last labor agreement?

Once again, our pitchers always seem like they make the biggest mistakes. Up 0-2 and then absolutely send a grenade up to the plate for it to get whacked. Beyond frustrating.

LOL I haven't watched a game in like 2 weeks. Decided I'd flip over to the game tonight, and immediately see the 3 run bomb off of Howard. Back to channel surfing.

I think Howard is destined for the BP when this team is competing. I think he can excel there.

Howard in particular feels like a one step forward two steps back type of pitcher.

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Howard in particular feels like a one step forward two steps back type of pitcher.

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He's a good for 2-4 innings then turns into a pumpkin kind of guy, which is why I think he's best suited in the BP.

Sorry for all the posts, but word just came down that we'll be without Jon Gray for every bit of four to six weeks with a left oblique strain. Pretty huge gut punch.

Gray's been a fairly steady 26-30 start guy. So that's a guy who is going to miss some starts on you, but in this day and age, you can live with a guy who will get you most of 30. That said, he's not gonna hit that this year. On the bright side, would much rather have a guy go out with an oblique vs an elbow, shoulder, or back.

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I'm not sure what the fascination is with tanking. Unless you're in the mix to get one of the top 2 or 3 picks in the MLB draft, it doesn't make a bit of sense. It's not the NFL. In addition, the teams that are worse than the Rangers now are going to magically get better. If anything, they're selling off pieces and will probably be worse than they already are.

We should be past the point as an organization of trying to do anything except improve and win.

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This!!!!!! Losing on purpose is just ****ting on your fans and should be punished by MLB!!!!

Not to mention, the others at the bottom are tanking too and probably doing an even better job. And they have a head start on you.

We do have Woody, so there is that.

Amirite?!

Well, as the Rangers fade into irrelevance for this season and I watch less and less, I've got a few things that interest me for the Rangers and the MLB as a whole.

1. The Rangers absolutely need to embrace their younger generation of players. I and many of you are so tired of seeing Calhoun, Culberson, Miller, etc. We need to start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for this rebuild with young, fresh faces.

2. The owners need to heavily contemplate if Woodward is the guy for the future or not THIS OFFSEASON (I lean towards not, but some might like him).

3. Pitching is coming from the lower ranks and hopefully they hit, and they become superstars. But I still think the rangers need to go out this offseason and either trade for or sign some guys.

4. The MLB is gearing up for one hell of a postseason. There are so many good/great teams after the deadline. Houston, Atlanta, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Milwaukee, and both New York teams. There's probably more, but the postseason looks like it will be crazy.

5. It will be really nice not having to hear about and deal the CBA this offseason. Plus, is Manfred going to get the can? Because he gets more incompetent each month that passes.

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Well, as the Rangers fade into irrelevance for this season and I watch less and less, I've got a few things that interest me for the Rangers and the MLB as a whole.

1. The Rangers absolutely need to embrace their younger generation of players. I and many of you are so tired of seeing Calhoun, Culberson, Miller, etc. We need to start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for this rebuild with young, fresh faces.

2. The owners need to heavily contemplate if Woodward is the guy for the future or not THIS OFFSEASON (I lean towards not, but some might like him).

3. Pitching is coming from the lower ranks and hopefully they hit, and they become superstars. But I still think the rangers need to go out this offseason and either trade for or sign some guys.

4. The MLB is gearing up for one hell of a postseason. There are so many good/great teams after the deadline. Houston, Atlanta, San Diego, LA, Seattle, Milwaukee, and both New York teams. There's probably more, but the postseason looks like it will be crazy.

5. It will be really nice not having to hear about and deal the CBA this offseason. Plus, is Manfred going to get the can? Because he gets more incompetent each month that passes.

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Comments, if I may...

1. Agreed. The rub there is starting the timing clock. Once a player is moved up, their Service Time starts and you start to burn through your 6 yrs of control 3yrs as a Serf. 3yrs as a Arb. So, rebuilding teams wait as long as possible so they don't lose a year of team control.

I know some of that changed with the CBA, but don't know.

2. Agreed

3. Agreed. I was putting together a financial post stating where the Rangers are for Payroll Commits for 2023. At 1st brush, I think the Rangers will have $40M for Arbs & FA if they match this year's payroll. It all starts with Perez and we'll know in a couple weeks if we're competing in 2023 or tanking again. As repeated often... if we can hit on one of the minor league guys and add another arm (and Perez), we should be pretty good next year.

4. I'm old enough to remember when you had a Pennant game and WS only. It takes me a while to embrace change.

5. Agreed.

Now that we're approaching the off-season... some conversations to think about.

Payroll expectations for 2023 - Helps to gauge FA activity
SP projections - Who do we have? Who do we need? Pipeline?!
OF projections - Same

Too soon? Ignore for a couple weeks.

I believe the Rangers are on the hook for $81.5M in 2023. I think COTS projects all-in the Rangers are at about $97M, when you consider Serfs. That would mean the Rangers have about $40M for Arbs and FA signing to get to 2022 payroll.

Coming off the books from 2022:
Odor: $12.33M
Andrus: $7.25M
Arihara: $2.6M
Perez: $4M
Moore: $2.5M
Culberson: $1.75M
======= $30.5M =======

Dead Money:
Brad Miller in 2023: $4M

Options:
Leclerc
Calhoun
Richards: $1M club option.

Perez, Moore, and Bush are the only real loses from a productivity perspective, so the team should have plenty of money to improve the personnel.

Most of that should likely go to SP. JD seemed to indicate they felt they had enough internal options to replace Bush (and subsequently Moore). GM speak for "that is the least of my concerns."

I'm surprised Moore didn't get moved. If they extend Perez and Moore, we'll essentially have the same team back for next year, but for less money.

Scott Lucas: Rangers Farm Report

AAA: Round Rock 3, at Sugar Land (HOU) 4
Round Rock: 6 hits, 6 walks, 11 strikeouts
Opponent: 6 hits, 12 walks, 8 strikeouts
Record: 54-46, 6 GB

SP Dallas Keuchel: 4.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 5 SO, 82 P / 47 S, 2.08 ERA
RP AJ Alexy: 2.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 0 SO, 6.32 ERA
CF JP Martinez: 2-4, BB, SB (5), .357/.486/.821


AA: Frisco 6, Amarillo (ARI) 2
Frisco: 8 hits, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts
Opponent: 9 hits, 3 walks, 5 strikeouts
Record: 16-12, 3 GB, 52-45 overall

SP Seth Nordlin: 4 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 SO, 62 P / 43 S, 2.68 ERA
RP Grant Wolfram: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 SO, 5.27 ERA
1B Blaine Crim: 2-4, .269/.338/.437
SS Luisangel Acuna: 1-3, BB


High-A: Hickory 5, Asheville (HOU) 6 (10)
Hickory: 6 hits, 3 walks, 10 strikeouts
Opponent: 10 hits, 6 walks, 10 strikeouts
Record: 14-17, 6 GB, 52-45 overall

SP Nick Krauth: 5 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 6 SO, 77 P / 51 S, 5.80 ERA
C Cody Freeman: 1-3, BB, SB (7), .236/.324/.396


Low-A: Down East 3, Frederick (WAS) 4 (10)
Down East: 8 hits, 3 walks, 5 strikeouts
Opponent: 7 hits, 2 walks, 9 strikeouts
Record: 14-15, 8 GB, 47-48 overall

SP Mitch Bratt: 5 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 4 SO, 68 P / 43 S, 2.04 ERA
RP Florencio Serrano: 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 HBP, 2 SO, 3.24 ERA
SS Maximo Acosta: 1-4, BB, 2 SB (27), .275/.355/.383
RF Marcus Smith: 2-4, BB, .275/.355/.383
LF Yosy Galan: 2-4, 2B, BB, .230/.323/.426

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Now that we're approaching the off-season... some conversations to think about.

Payroll expectations for 2023 - Helps to gauge FA activity
SP projections - Who do we have? Who do we need? Pipeline?!
OF projections - Same

Too soon? Ignore for a couple weeks.

I believe the Rangers are on the hook for $81.5M in 2023. I think COTS projects all-in the Rangers are at about $97M, when you consider Serfs. That would mean the Rangers have about $40M for Arbs and FA signing to get to 2022 payroll.

Coming off the books from 2022:
Odor: $12.33M
Andrus: $7.25M
Arihara: $2.6M
Perez: $4M
Moore: $2.5M
Culberson: $1.75M
======= $30.5M =======

Dead Money:
Brad Miller in 2023: $4M

Options:
Leclerc
Calhoun
Richards: $1M club option.

Perez, Moore, and Bush are the only real loses from a productivity perspective, so the team should have plenty of money to improve the personnel.

Most of that should likely go to SP. JD seemed to indicate they felt they had enough internal options to replace Bush (and subsequently Moore). GM speak for "that is the least of my concerns."

I'm surprised Moore didn't get moved. If they extend Perez and Moore, we'll essentially have the same team back for next year, but for less money.

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Aren't you falling into the same trap you did last season (assuming that the Rangers aren't going to be active with trades/FA signings)?

Having little money committed is a huge advantage IMO. Gives the team more flexibility to sign several players, or spend big on one or two impact players. None of us thought they'd spend any money last year, and $550M later....

I think he is just laying the foundation for the conversation to be started.

We will re-sign Perez, and will be very active in FA and probably trades. But yes, we do have a room financially

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I'm surprised Moore didn't get moved. If they extend Perez and Moore, we'll essentially have the same team back for next year, but for less money.

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Aren't you falling into the same trap you did last season (assuming that the Rangers aren't going to be active with trades/FA signings)?

Having little money committed is a huge advantage IMO. Gives the team more flexibility to sign several players, or spend big on one or two impact players. None of us thought they'd spend any money last year, and $550M later....

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As Mr Gigem stated, I'm just laying the conversation starter.

I have no idea if the Rangers are going to spend more or less, at this point. The point was lots of dead money coming off the books.

It only seems like I'm always angry.

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Ragans expected to make his MLB debut tomorrow night against the White Sox

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I like it. Lets see how he does and if he may be ready to contribute at the MLB level in 2023.