kegstand said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I would bet my left nut Diaz is in the lineup tonight.
He's 2-6 in his career against Syndergaard, including a 2-run HR last time we played them in July. That shouldn't be enough to justify a start in the face of how awful he's been, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
HarryRocket said:The Astros drafted Mark Appel, Brady Aiken, threw years of development in Forrest Whitley just to have some 16 year old kids from the Dominican who signed for $10k become their staff aces.
— n (@nubucknicks) November 3, 2022
It kinda makes me wonder if we have another Framber or Javier just chillin in A/AA right now that isn't even on the radar for our top 30 prospect list.PoppaB05 said:This is why the Astros farm system stays good and is always undervalued. Everything I've seen/read is that they treat all players in the minors equally and thus coach everybody. This is why we have the Framber/Alvarez/Javier/Garcia/Chaz…… players. Everyone gets the same attention and coaching, not just the Correa/Tucker/Whitley/LMJ guys.HarryRocket said:The Astros drafted Mark Appel, Brady Aiken, threw years of development in Forrest Whitley just to have some 16 year old kids from the Dominican who signed for $10k become their staff aces.
— n (@nubucknicks) November 3, 2022
The line drive from Segura in the 8th that Tucker caught at his waist was the loudest out of the nightBMX Bandit said:
clanton is so good at those!
watching it reminded me that there weren't even any "hard outs." usually you see 1-2 great defensive plays in a no-no. closest thing was tucker's catch, which really was not much more than routine.
100% tunneling is a big factor, but there is something else to it too.kegstand said:What makes Javier's fastball so unhittable is tunneling. He uses the same release point and same path for his fastball as his slider, and when he's on he can paint the corners like nobody's business with it.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:i need some expert analysis of this.All I do is Nguyen said:
JV better not use his breaking stuff tonight except in VERY limited points where it is necessary. The phillies cannot hit the fastball it appears, so we need to use and abuse that.
I know Javier's fastball doesnt move much and people describe it as much harder to hit than other 4 seamers.
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A popular way to describe Javier's four-seam fastball is as an "invisiball," the name his teammates took to calling the pitch last year. Perhaps the most unique pitcher in Houston's farm system, Javier has a rare combination of deception in his delivery from his low three-quarters arm slot and backspin on his fastball to throw it by hitters despite his pedestrian velocity.
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More importantly, hitters likely aren't used to seeing the type of fastball movement he generates out of an arm slot as low as his. From his low three-quarters slot, they might expect his fastball to run like a two-seamer yet it rides like a four-seamer. His wrist positioning allows him to stay behind the ball and create backspin, a point of emphasis among the pitching coaches throughout the Astros' organization. Backspin is what creates ride, also known as hop, and the illusion to the hitter that the ball is rising.
"It just holds that line," said Astros catcher Garrett Stubbs, who worked with Javier in Triple A toward the end of last season. "If (his fastball's) at the top of the zone, they're swinging under it. And if it's at the bottom of the zone, they're thinking that it's going to fall out of the zone and be a ball. But it just holds that line at the bottom of the zone."
Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
LB12Diamond said:Nino Brown said:bearkatag15 said:Even in the World Series this holds. https://t.co/7GIO8D3CTm
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 3, 2022
****ing dweeb
Tool bag. What awesome unbiased journalism there ESPN
Only second no hitter in WS history. And they are trying to down play it. LOL
I'll ignore these losers.
Agreed, but he may have a point with Urquidy. He kind of has a poor man's Javier heater. Not a ton of velo, but lots of spin and "rise". He just doesn't locate and deceive as well.RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
As much as I'd love to give LMC a chance to redeem himself, I am honestly hoping he won't have to because we win tonight and sat. Having said that, IF it goes to G7, I believe we can get 4-5 solid, no run innings out of LMC. If he's off again, we get Urquidy up ASAP and let him finish ala CFMRealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
i agree with this, but there's no reason to throw lmj again. For whatever reason theyre seeing him really well. It wasnt a bad start, it was a career bad start.RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
I love our organizationFarmer1906 said:Quote:
More importantly, hitters likely aren't used to seeing the type of fastball movement he generates out of an arm slot as low as his. From his low three-quarters slot, they might expect his fastball to run like a two-seamer yet it rides like a four-seamer. His wrist positioning allows him to stay behind the ball and create backspin, a point of emphasis among the pitching coaches throughout the Astros' organization. Backspin is what creates ride, also known as hop, and the illusion to the hitter that the ball is rising.
"neither of these teams has lost back to back games this postseason"The Milkman said:
So now that Philly isn't undefeated at home… what's the storyline
RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:its bigger than that. There's a whole movement in philly to not feed the astrosCinco Ranch Aggie said:
Saw a report this morning that the Astros were denied a catered meal by a Philly caterer. Haven't looked through the entire thread to see if this has already been shared. If true, so much for the "city of brotherly love".
Bryce Harper weighs in on Mattress Mack telling fans to "f*ck off." pic.twitter.com/Yqk8ILEECf
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We have no idea how everyone is going to be feeling in a game 7. Abreu and Montero could go 2 inning each the day before and be used up. Brown could piggyback tonight if JV has a rough outing today. Say Javier can get you 3 then Uruqidy comes in and gets shelled. Then what? Will Smith gunna bridge it to Pressly?Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:i agree with this, but there's no reason to throw lmj again. For whatever reason theyre seeing him really well. It wasnt a bad start, it was a career bad start.RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
3 ER over 5 is awful now?The Milkman said:RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
He was also awful vs NY
urquidy only shovesFarmer1906 said:We have no idea how everyone is going to be feeling in a game 7. Abreu and Montero could go 2 inning each the day before and be used up. Brown could piggyback tonight if JV has a rough outing today. Say Javier can get you 3 then Uruqidy comes in and gets shelled. Then what? Will Smith gunna bridge it to Pressly?Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:i agree with this, but there's no reason to throw lmj again. For whatever reason theyre seeing him really well. It wasnt a bad start, it was a career bad start.RealTalk said:Dude had one bad game. All of sudden people are trashing him.Boiling Denim said:
Watching Urquidy then Javier and our bullpen's stuff just makes LMJ's junk even more shockingly bad.
He cannot be allowed to pitch again. He was throwing floaters out there.
Maybe that champagne bottle did some actual damage to that arm
Ridiculous.
Just look at our own history. Morton got shelled (3.2 IP, 7 ER) similarly to McCullers in game 4 of the CS in '17. He came back and shoved (5.0 IP, 0 ER) in game 7.
There could be plenty of reasons to throw McCullers. He has as much of a track record as a good pitcher and big-game pitcher as anyone.
tremble said:
How many years of control do the Astros have on Javier?
Have to think they might let JV walk and use some of that money to reinforce the team and pay Javier/Framber/Tucker instead.
Aaron Nola hitting 95-96 mph early this game. Avg. fastball during the regular season 92.6 mph.
— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) November 3, 2022
kegstand said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I would bet my left nut Diaz is in the lineup tonight.
He's 2-6 in his career against Syndergaard, including a 2-run HR last time we played them in July. That shouldn't be enough to justify a start in the face of how awful he's been, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Caller on 790 thinks LMJ and Verlander are throwing games because they don't want Dusty Baker to win a world series. Might be the dumbest take of time. Sean and Brian are livid with this cat.
— Apollo Collin and 99 others (@CopierCollin) November 3, 2022
